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Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson - CNN.com

By Evan Perez, CNN Justice Reporter
Updated 4:16 PM ET, Tue March 3, 2015

A Justice Department civil rights investigation has concluded that the Ferguson Police Department and the city's municipal court engaged in a "pattern and practice" of discrimination against African Americans, targeting them disproportionately for traffic stops, use of force, and jail sentences, according to a U.S. law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.


95% of tickets for "manner of walking in roadway," essentially jaywalking, were against African Americans.

Interesting that Michael Brown and friend weren't ticketed for jaywalking, they were told to get out of the street.
 

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Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson - CNN.com

By Evan Perez, CNN Justice Reporter
Updated 4:16 PM ET, Tue March 3, 2015






Interesting that Michael Brown and friend weren't ticketed for jaywalking, they were told to get out of the street.


~70% of residents in Ferguson are African American. What we see is ~25% delta in the occurrence of citations and police action.

We know police patrolling is essentially determined by crime rates...ie police spend more time where the crime is. If one looks at demographics where the crime is, could 95% be "reasonable"? ie are those areas of high police patrolling approaching 95% African American. I don't know. But I would guess someone will do that study and we'll know more.

If in the end we are talking about a true 25% delta after reasonable considerations are applied...I'd have to say the Justice Department has a point.

In terms of leniency and such from the bench, etc...I don't know. I don't think you can do much with that . Too many variables....focusing on the front end makes way more sense to me.
 

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Not shocked.
I'd like to see something on the study/process.
I would like to understand the race break down on the police force.
Also, what % of police force time is dedicated to each races neighborhood.

Wonder how long it took the folks responsible for the jokes to get fired.
 

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In 88% of the cases in which the Ferguson police reported using force, it was against African-Americans. During the period 2012-2014 black drivers were twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during traffic stops, but 26% less likely to be found in possession of contraband.

That's pretty bad.
 

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Not shocked.
I'd like to see something on the study/process.
I would like to understand the race break down on the police force.
Also, what % of police force time is dedicated to each races neighborhood.

Wonder how long it took the folks responsible for the jokes to get fired.

I wonder if they got fired at all.
 

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I wonder if no justice no peace gets a chance to restate the once unobvious. Just a thought...
 

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I'd say, judging by the statistics and those horrible e-mails, the entire police department and St. Louis County justice system is just poison and should be washed out. Get rid of the prosecutor who let people who he knew weren't there speak, get a real prosecutor so there can be a trial, and get cops who do not end up locking people up for jaywalking and looking to take advantage of people to make a profit.

In the end, the problems in this country come down to the justice system and education. If those two were fixed, the United States would be a much better place.
 

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I'd say, judging by the statistics and those horrible e-mails, the entire police department and St. Louis County justice system is just poison and should be washed out. Get rid of the prosecutor who let people who he knew weren't there speak, get a real prosecutor so there can be a trial, and get cops who do not end up locking people up for jaywalking and looking to take advantage of people to make a profit.

In the end, the problems in this country come down to the justice system and education. If those two were fixed, the United States would be a much better place.

Not saying those aren't problem areas but focusing on the institutions is a denial of personal responsibility and diminishes the power of the individuals over their own lives and the collective American experience that we create together. In my mind, the problems in this country come down to the deterioration of parenting skills and the loss of a sense of community. It's "us vs. them" or mostly just, "me, me, me."
 

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I'd say, judging by the statistics and those horrible e-mails, the entire police department and St. Louis County justice system is just poison and should be washed out. Get rid of the prosecutor who let people who he knew weren't there speak, get a real prosecutor so there can be a trial, and get cops who do not end up locking people up for jaywalking and looking to take advantage of people to make a profit.

In the end, the problems in this country come down to the justice system and education. If those two were fixed, the United States would be a much better place.

Not saying those aren't problem areas but focusing on the institutions is a denial of personal responsibility and diminishes the power of the individuals over their own lives and the collective American experience that we create together. In my mind, the problems in this country come down to the deterioration of parenting skills and the loss of a sense of community. It's "us vs. them" or mostly just, "me, me, me."


Reps Redbar. Absolutely correct. The justice and educational systems would both be fixed if family and community were stronger.
 

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Not saying those aren't problem areas but focusing on the institutions is a denial of personal responsibility and diminishes the power of the individuals over their own lives and the collective American experience that we create together. In my mind, the problems in this country come down to the deterioration of parenting skills and the loss of a sense of community. It's "us vs. them" or mostly just, "me, me, me."

You hit the nail on the head. It goes back to the family & parenting...or lack thereof. The fatherless rate in this country is inexcusable...especially for the African-American community (70+%).
 

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The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf just published an article titled "Ferguson's Conspiracy Against Black Citizens":

Despite the uncertainty surrounding the killing of Michael Brown, many black residents of Ferguson, Missouri, immediately thought that he was the victim of a wrongful death at the hands of police officer Darren Wilson, who shot him after a scuffle.

This week, the Department of Justice concluded that there is no evidence to disprove Officer Wilson's claim that he feared for his life during the encounter. And the federal agency also presented context that explains why so many black residents assumed foul play and took to the streets in protest: For years, Ferguson's police force has meted out brutality, violated civil rights, and helped Ferguson officials to leech off the black community as shamelessly as would mafia bosses.

So far, a disproportionate amount of press attention has focused on racist emails circulated by Ferguson officials, causing two to be fired and one to be placed on leave. While the correspondence in question is deeply offensive and worthy of condemnation, it is nowhere close to the most objectionable transgression documented in the DOJ report, which ought to prompt multiple Ferguson officials to resign in disgrace and provoke condemnations from across the political spectrum. Nearly every page shocks the conscience.

Ferguson officials repeatedly behaved as if their priority is not improving public safety or protecting the rights of residents, but maximizing the revenue that flows into city coffers, sometimes going so far as to anticipate decreasing sales tax revenues and urging the police force to make up for the shortfall by ticketing more people. Often, those tickets for minor offenses then turned into arrest warrants.

Police officers were judged not only on the number of stops they made, but on the number of citations they issued. "Officers routinely conduct stops that have little relation to public safety and a questionable basis in law," the report states. "Issuing three or four charges in one stop is not uncommon. Officers sometimes write six, eight, or, in at least one instance, fourteen citations for a single encounter." Some officers compete to see who can issue the most citations in a single stop.

In one email, the police chief, who also oversees the municipal court, brags to the city manager about how much revenue it is generating. Ignoring that conflict of interest is a recipe for a justice system that bleeds the powerless of their meager resources.

Ferguson's municipal court judge, Ronald Brockmeyer, who is appointed by the city council, is well aware that his job performance is evaluated partly based on how much revenue he generates from the bench. One 2011 internal report in Ferguson notes that Judge Brockmeyer made a list of “what he has done to help in the areas of court efficiency and revenue.” The next year, a city council member suggested that he should not be reappointed, arguing that he "does not listen to the testimony, does not review the reports or the criminal history of defendants, and doesn’t let all the pertinent witnesses testify before rendering a verdict.”

If you think those shortcomings disqualified him, think again.

The report continues:

The Council member then addressed the concern that “switching judges would/could lead to loss of revenue,” arguing that even if such a switch did “lead to a slight loss, I think it’s more important that cases are being handled properly and fairly.” The City Manager acknowledged mixed reviews of Judge Brockmeyer’s work but urged that the Judge be reappointed, noting that “...it goes without saying the City cannot afford to lose any efficiency in our Courts, nor experience any decrease in our Fines and Forfeitures.”
Establishing these glaring perverse incentives—effectively compromising the city's criminal-justice system to increase revenue—is enough to disgrace Ferguson's leaders all on its own, whether one regards them as civic imbeciles or moral cretins. But the consequences of these misdeeds and other transgressions against residents can only be fully understood with stories of Ferguson's many victims.

While I recommend reading the whole DOJ report—I'd gladly see it assigned to every high schooler, college student, and state legislator in America—I'll focus the rest of this post on those stories and a few other particularly alarming findings. As you read on, keep in mind that this is but a selection of horrors from the DOJ report, which describes a tiny selection of all police misconduct stories in Ferguson.

One passage describes the way that Ferguson officials have criminalized being too poor to pay a ticket:

In 2013 alone, the court issued over 9,000 warrants on cases stemming in large part from minor violations such as parking infractions, traffic tickets, or housing code violations. Jail time would be considered far too harsh a penalty for the great majority of these code violations, yet Ferguson’s municipal court routinely issues warrants for people to be arrested and incarcerated for failing to timely pay related fines and fees. Under state law, a failure to appear in municipal court on a traffic charge involving a moving violation results in a license suspension. Ferguson has made this penalty more onerous by only allowing the suspension to be lifted after payment of an owed fine is made in full.

Here's how Ferguson officials wreak havoc on people's lives over the tiniest of infractions:

We spoke... with an African-American woman who has a still-pending case stemming from 2007, when, on a single occasion, she parked her car illegally. She received two citations and a $151 fine, plus fees. The woman, who experienced financial difficulties and periods of homelessness over several years, was charged with seven Failure to Appear offenses for missing court dates or fine payments on her parking tickets between 2007 and 2010. For each Failure to Appear, the court issued an arrest warrant and imposed new fines and fees.

From 2007 to 2014, the woman was arrested twice, spent six days in jail, and paid $550 to the court for the events stemming from this single instance of illegal parking. Court records show that she twice attempted to make partial payments of $25 and $50, but the court returned those payments, refusing to accept anything less than payment in full. One of those payments was later accepted, but only after the court’s letter rejecting payment by money order was returned as undeliverable. This woman is now making regular payments on the fine. As of December 2014, over seven years later, despite initially owing a $151 fine and having already paid $550, she still owed $541.

Older folks face an extra burden, but seem to get no slack:

A 90-year-old man had a warrant issued for his arrest after he failed to timely pay the five citations FPD issued to him during a single traffic stop in 2013. An 83-year-old man had a warrant issued against him when he failed to timely resolve his Derelict Auto violation. A 67-year-old woman told us she was stopped and arrested by a Ferguson police officer for an outstanding warrant for failure to pay a trash-removal citation. She did not know about the warrant until her arrest, and the court ultimately charged her $1,000 in fines, which she continues to pay off in $100 monthly increments despite being on a limited, fixed income. We have heard similar stories from dozens of other individuals and have reviewed court records documenting many additional instances of similarly harsh penalties, often for relatively minor violations.

Here's an incident that caused a Ferguson resident to lose a job he had held for years:

In the summer of 2012, a 32-year-old African-American man sat in his car cooling off after playing basketball in a Ferguson public park. An officer pulled up behind the man’s car... and demanded the man’s Social Security number and identification. Without any cause, the officer accused the man of being a pedophile, referring to the presence of children in the park, and ordered the man out of his car for a pat-down, although the officer had no reason to believe the man was armed. The officer also asked to search the man’s car.

The man objected, citing his constitutional rights. In response, the officer arrested the man, reportedly at gunpoint, charging him with eight violations of Ferguson’s municipal code. One charge, Making a False Declaration, was for initially providing the short form of his first name (e.g., “Mike” instead of “Michael”), and an address which, although legitimate, was different from the one on his driver’s license. Another charge was for not wearing a seat belt, even though he was seated in a parked car. The officer also charged the man both with having an expired operator’s license, and with having no operator’s license in his possession.

Here is a small part of the evidence that the city is racially biased against black residents:

... with respect to speeding charges brought by FPD, the evidence shows not only that African Americans are represented at disproportionately high rates overall, but also that the disparate impact of FPD’s enforcement practices on African Americans is 48% larger when citations are issued not on the basis of radar or laser, but by some other method, such as the officer’s own visual assessment.
These disparities are also present in FPD’s use of force. Nearly 90% of documented force used by FPD officers was used against African Americans. In every canine bite incident for which racial information is available, the person bitten was African American.

... African Americans are 68% less likely than others to have their cases dismissed by the court, and are more likely to have their cases last longer and result in more required court encounters. African Americans are at least 50% more likely to have their cases lead to an arrest warrant, and accounted for 92% of cases in which an arrest warrant was issued by the Ferguson Municipal Court in 2013. Available data show that, of those actually arrested by FPD only because of an outstanding municipal warrant, 96% are African American.

Our investigation indicates that this disproportionate burden on African Americans cannot be explained by any difference in the rate at which people of different races violate the law. Rather, our investigation has revealed that these disparities occur, at least in part, because of unlawful bias against and stereotypes about African Americans. We have found substantial evidence of racial bias among police and court staff in Ferguson. For example, we discovered emails circulated by police supervisors and court staff that stereotype racial minorities as criminals, including one email that joked about an abortion by an African-American woman being a means of crime control.

Here's an occasion when the Ferguson police department violated the Fourth Amendment:

... in July 2013 police encountered an African-American man in a parking lot while on their way to arrest someone else at an apartment building. Police knew that the encountered man was not the person they had come to arrest. Nonetheless, without even reasonable suspicion, they handcuffed the man, placed him in the back of a patrol car, and ran his record. It turned out he was the intended arrestee’s landlord. The landlord went on to help the police enter the person’s unit to effect the arrest, but he later filed a complaint alleging racial discrimination and unlawful detention. Ignoring the central fact that they had handcuffed a man and put him in a police car despite having no reason to believe he had done anything wrong, a sergeant vigorously defended FPD’s actions, characterizing the detention as “minimal” and pointing out that the car was air conditioned.

Here is a second example of a Fourth Amendment violation:

In October 2012, police officers pulled over an African-American man who had lived in Ferguson for 16 years, claiming that his passenger-side brake light was broken. The driver happened to have replaced the light recently and knew it to be functioning properly. Nonetheless, according to the man’s written complaint, one officer stated, “let’s see how many tickets you’re going to get,” while a second officer tapped his Electronic Control Weapon (“ECW”) on the roof of the man’s car. The officers wrote the man a citation for “tail light/reflector/license plate light out.” They refused to let the man show them that his car’s equipment was in order, warning him, “don’t you get out of that car until you get to your house.” The man, who believed he had been racially profiled, was so upset that he went to the police station that night to show a sergeant that his brakes and license plate light worked.

Here are a third and fourth example:

... in November 2013, an officer approached five African-American young people listening to music in a car. Claiming to have smelled marijuana, the officer placed them under arrest for disorderly conduct based on their “gathering in a group for the purposes of committing illegal activity.” The young people were detained and charged—some taken to jail, others delivered to their parents—despite the officer finding no marijuana, even after conducting an inventory search of the car.

Similarly, in February 2012, an officer wrote an arrest notification ticket for Peace Disturbance for “loud music” coming from a car. The arrest ticket appears unlawful as the officer did not assert, and there is no other indication, that a third party was disturbed by the music—an element of the offense. See Ferguson Mun. Code § 29-82 (prohibiting certain conduct that “unreasonably and knowingly disturbs or alarms another person or persons”). Nonetheless, a supervisor approved it. These warrantless arrests violated the Fourth Amendment because they were not based on probable cause.
Another objectionable incident happened in March 2013:

... officers responded to the police station to take custody of a person wanted on a state warrant. When they arrived, they encountered a different man— not the subject of the warrant—who happened to be leaving the station. Having nothing to connect the man to the warrant subject, other than his presence at the station, the officers nonetheless stopped him and asked that he identify himself. The man asserted his rights, asking the officers “Why do you need to know?” and declining to be frisked. When the man then extended his identification toward the officers, at their request, the officers interpreted his hand motion as an attempted assault and took him to the ground. Without articulating reasonable suspicion or any other justification for the initial detention, the officers arrested the man on two counts of Failure to Comply and two counts of Resisting Arrest.

Some officers from the Ferguson police department are so poorly trained and ignorant of the law that they openly related their unconstitutional behavior to DOJ investigators:

In our conversations with FPD officers, one officer admitted that when he conducts a traffic stop, he asks for identification from all passengers as a matter of course. If any refuses, he considers that to be “furtive and aggressive” conduct and cites—and typically arrests—the person for Failure to Comply. The officer thus acknowledged that he regularly exceeds his authority under the Fourth Amendment by arresting passengers who refuse, as is their right, to provide identification ... Further, the officer told us that he was trained to arrest for this violation.

Some unconstitutional practices were institutionalized in a process best described as legitimacy-through-official-sounding-jargon. Consider the "wanted" designation:

FPD and other law enforcement agencies in St. Louis County use a system of “wanteds” or “stop orders” as a substitute for seeking judicial approval for an arrest warrant. When officers believe a person has committed a crime but are not able to immediately locate that person, they can enter a “wanted” into the statewide law enforcement database, indicating to all other law enforcement agencies that the person should be arrested if located. While wanteds are supposed to be based on probable cause ... they operate as an end-run around the judicial system. Instead of swearing out a warrant and seeking judicial authorization from a neutral and detached magistrate, officers make the probable cause determination themselves and circumvent the courts.

... If officers enter wanteds into the system on less than probable cause, then the subsequent arrest would violate the Fourth Amendment. Our interviews with command staff and officers indicate that officers do not clearly understand the legal authority necessary to issue a wanted. For example, one veteran officer told us he will put out a wanted “if I do not have enough probable cause to arrest you.” He gave the example of investigating a car theft. Upon identifying a suspect, he would put that suspect into the system as wanted “because we do not have probable cause that he stole the vehicle.” Reflecting the muddled analysis officers may employ when deciding whether to issue a wanted, this officer concluded, “you have to have reasonable suspicion and some probable cause to put out a wanted.”

At times, FPD officers use wanteds not merely in spite of a lack of probable cause, but because they lack probable cause. In December 2014, a Ferguson detective investigating a shooting emailed a county prosecutor to see if a warrant for a suspect could be obtained, since “a lot of state agencies won’t act on a wanted.” The prosecutor responded stating that although “[c]hances are” the crime was committed by the suspect, “we just don’t have enough for a warrant right now.” The detective responded that he would enter a wanted. There is evidence that the use of wanteds has resulted in numerous unconstitutional arrests in Ferguson.

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It's worth briefly pausing, amid this parade of official misconduct, ignorance of the law, and Constitutional violations to reflect on the fact that all of them are coming out of a municipality of just 21,000 residents. You can fit 41,000 at Wrigley Field. "Between July 1, 2010, and June 30, 2014," the report states, "the City of Ferguson issued approximately 90,000 citations and summonses for municipal violations."

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Okay, back to the parade of horrors. Police sometimes complain that Ferguson residents are unwilling to call and report crimes or to cooperate as witnesses. There are surely occasions when this complaint is fully justified, but the behavior of the police has also alienated the community in totally understandable ways that relate very specifically to cooperating with law enforcement.

For instance:

... a woman called FPD to report a domestic disturbance. By the time the police arrived, the woman’s boyfriend had left. The police looked through the house and saw indications that the boyfriend lived there. When the woman told police that only she and her brother were listed on the home’s occupancy permit, the officer placed the woman under arrest for the permit violation and she was jailed. In another instance, after a woman called police to report a domestic disturbance and was given a summons for an occupancy permit violation, she said, according to the officer’s report, that she “hated the Ferguson Police Department and will never call again, even if she is being killed.”

Or consider this incident:

... a young African-American man was shot while walking on the road with three friends. The police department located and interviewed two of the friends about the shooting. After the interview, they arrested and jailed one of these cooperating witnesses, who was 19 years old, on an outstanding municipal warrant.
Ferguson residents have a right to capture video of on-duty police officers in public places.

But Ferguson police regularly intimidate or retaliate against folks with cameras.

For example:

In June 2014, an African-American couple who had taken their children to play at the park allowed their small children to urinate in the bushes next to their parked car. An officer stopped them, threatened to cite them for allowing the children to “expose themselves,” and checked the father for warrants.

When the mother asked if the officer had to detain the father in front of the children, the officer turned to the father and said, “you’re going to jail because your wife keeps running her mouth.” The mother then began recording the officer on her cell phone. The officer became irate, declaring, “you don’t videotape me!” As the officer drove away with the father in custody for “parental neglect,” the mother drove after them, continuing to record. The officer then pulled over and arrested her for traffic violations. When the father asked the officer to show mercy, he responded, “no more mercy, since she wanted to videotape,” and declared “nobody videotapes me.” The officer then took the phone, which the couple’s daughter was holding. After posting bond, the couple found that the video had been deleted.

After all the bad behavior reviewed so far, we still haven't even mentioned excessive force complaints. To no one's surprise, Ferguson police have a problem there too. When you see the acronym ECW, that means "electronic control weapon."

Think tasers.

Ferguson police use them often. For example:

... in August 2010, a lieutenant used an ECW in drive-stun mode against an African-American woman in the Ferguson City Jail because she had refused to remove her bracelets. The lieutenant resorted to his ECW even though there were five officers present and the woman posed no physical threat.

Another example:

In September 2012, an officer drive-stunned an African-American woman who he had placed in the back of his patrol car but who had stretched out her leg to block him from closing the door. The woman was in handcuffs. In May 2013, officers drive-stunned a handcuffed African-American man who verbally refused to get out of the back seat of a police car once it had arrived at the jail. The man did not physically resist arrest or attempt to assault the officers.

According to the man, he was also punched in the face and head. That allegation was neither reported by the involved officers nor investigated by their supervisor, who dismissed it.

And here's a third taser incident for good measure:

In January 2013, a patrol sergeant stopped an African-American man after he saw the man talk to an individual in a truck and then walk away. The sergeant detained the man, although he did not articulate any reasonable suspicion that criminal activity was afoot. When the man declined to answer questions or submit to a frisk—which the sergeant sought to execute despite articulating no reason to believe the man was armed—the sergeant grabbed the man by the belt, drew his ECW, and ordered the man to comply. The man crossed his arms and objected that he had not done anything wrong. Video captured by the ECW’s built-in camera shows that the man made no aggressive movement toward the officer. The sergeant fired the ECW, applying a five-second cycle of electricity and causing the man to fall to the ground.

The sergeant almost immediately applied the ECW again, which he later justified in his report by claiming that the man tried to stand up. The video makes clear, however, that the man never tried to stand—he only writhed in pain on the ground. The video also shows that the sergeant applied the ECW nearly continuously for 20 seconds, longer than represented in his report. The man was charged with Failure to Comply and Resisting Arrest, but no independent criminal violation.

Ferguson police also turn their dogs loose to bite black people—it's nearly always black people:

... in every canine bite incident for which racial information is available, the subject was African American. This disparity, in combination with the decision to deploy canines in circumstances with a seemingly low objective threat, suggests that race may play an impermissible role in officers’ decisions to deploy canines.

Here's a specific example of sending a police dog to bite a black person:

In December 2011, officers deployed a canine to bite an unarmed 14-year-old African-American boy who was waiting in an abandoned house for his friends. Four officers, including a canine officer, responded to the house mid-morning after a caller reported that people had gone inside. Officers arrested one boy on the ground level. Describing the offense as a burglary in progress even though the facts showed that the only plausible offense was trespassing, the canine officer’s report stated that the dog located a second boy hiding in a storage closet under the stairs in the basement. The officer peeked into the space and saw the boy, who was 5’5” and 140 pounds, curled up in a ball, hiding. According to the officer, the boy would not show his hands despite being warned that the officer would use the dog. The officer then deployed the dog, which bit the boy’s arm, causing puncture wounds.

According to the boy, with whom we spoke, he never hid in a storage space and he never heard any police warnings. He told us that he was waiting for his friends in the basement of the house, a vacant building where they would go when they skipped school. The boy approached the stairs when he heard footsteps on the upper level, thinking his friends had arrived. When he saw the dog at the top of the steps, he turned to run, but the dog quickly bit him on the ankle and then the thigh, causing him to fall to the floor. The dog was about to bite his face or neck but instead got his left arm, which the boy had raised to protect himself. FPD officers struck him while he was on the ground, one of them putting a boot on the side of his head. He recalled the officers laughing about the incident afterward.

The lack of sufficient documentation or a supervisory force investigation prevents us from resolving which version of events is more accurate. However, even if the officer’s version of the force used were accurate, the use of the dog to bite the boy was unreasonable. Though described as a felony, the facts as described by the officer, and the boy, indicate that this was a trespass—kids hanging out in a vacant building. The officers had no factual predicate to believe the boy was armed. The offense reports document no attempt to glean useful information about the second boy from the first, who was quickly arrested. By the canine officer’s own account, he saw the boy in the closet and thus had the opportunity to assess the threat posed by this 5’5” 14 year old. Moreover, there were no exigent circumstances requiring apprehension by dog bite. Four officers were present and had control of the scene.

This next dog example captures the level of illogic that is sometimes contained in Ferguson police reports:

In November 2013, an officer deployed a canine to bite and detain a fleeing subject even though the officer knew the suspect was unarmed. The officer deemed the subject, an African-American male who was walking down the street, suspicious because he appeared to walk away when he saw the officer. The officer stopped him and frisked him, finding no weapons. The officer then ran his name for warrants. When the man heard the dispatcher say over the police radio that he had outstanding warrants—the report does not specify whether the warrants were for failing to appear in municipal court or to pay owed fines, or something more serious—he ran. The officer followed him and released his dog, which bit the man on both arms. The officer’s supervisor found the force justified because the officer released the dog “fearing that the subject was armed,” even though the officer had already determined the man was unarmed.

Residents hoping for more just treatment when they get their day in court are often disappointed. The sentence that best sums of the dysfunction of the Ferguson municipal court is this one: "Ferguson, unlike other courts in the region, does not include any information about its operations on its website other than inaccurate instructions about how to make payment." This would be comical if not for the fact that failure to pay frequently causes people to be arrested, even when what they're paying is a fine for a simple code violation or ticket.

Says the report:

It is often difficult for an individual who receives a municipal citation or summons in Ferguson to know how much is owed, where and how to pay the ticket, what the options for payment are, what rights the individual has, and what the consequences are for various actions or oversights. The initial information provided to people who are cited for violating Ferguson’s municipal code is often incomplete or inconsistent. Communication with municipal court defendants is haphazard and known by the court to be unreliable. And the court’s procedures and operations are ambiguous, are not written down, and are not transparent or even available to the public on the court’s website or elsewhere.

Indeed, there is an incentive to keep residents ignorant until such time as a failure to pay results in additional fines that will ultimately enrich the city further. Matters that can be resolved elsewhere require an in-person appearance in Ferguson. For example, some speeding tickets require an appearance. But resolving them isn't always as easy as just showing up to the hearing:

... speeding tickets often fail to indicate the alleged speed observed, even though both the fine owed and whether a court appearance is mandatory depends upon the specific speed alleged. Evidence shows that in some of these cases, a person has appeared in court but been unable to resolve the citation because of the missing information. In June 2014, for instance, a court clerk wrote to an FPD officer: “The above ticket . . . does not have a speed in it. The guy came in and we had to send him away. Can you email me the speed when you get time.”

Separate and apart from the difficulties these omissions create for people, the fact that the court staff routinely add the speed to tickets weeks after they are issued raises concerns about the accuracy and reliability of officers’ assertions in official records.

And what if you're poor and a warrant for your arrest is mistakenly issued? Tough luck:

... it appears that if a person is aware of an outstanding warrant but believes that the warrant was issued in error, that person can petition the Municipal Judge to cancel the warrant only after the bond is paid in full. If a person cannot afford to pay the bond, there is no opportunity to seek recourse from the court.

The city council is aware that many poor people just cannot afford to pay the hefty fines they're given for infractions like failure to wear a seat belt, but the officials have so far been derelict in their duty to offer some solution to this problem:

We have heard directly from individuals who could not afford to pay their fines—and thus accumulated additional charges and fines and had warrants issued against them—that they requested a community service alternative to monetary payment but were told no such alternative existed. One man who still owes $1,100 stemming from a speeding and seatbelt violation from 2000 told us that he has been arrested repeatedly in connection with the fines he cannot afford to pay, and that “no one is willing to work with him to find an alternative solution.” City officials have recognized the need to provide a meaningful community service option. In August 2013, one City Councilmember wrote to the City Manager and the Mayor that, “[f]or a few years now we have talked about offering community service to those who can’t afford to pay their fines, but we haven’t actually made it happen.” The Councilmember noted the benefits of such a program, including that it would “keep those people that simply don’t have the money to pay their fines from constantly being arrested and going to jail, only to be released and do it all over again.”

Recall that the population of Ferguson is about 21,000 people. "According to the court’s own figures, as of December 2014, over 16,000 people had outstanding arrest warrants that had been issued by the court," the report notes. That is staggering. As is this figure: "Of the 460 individuals arrested during traffic stops solely for outstanding warrants, 443 individuals—or 96%—were African American."

What happened when they posted bond?

Information provided by the City reveals a haphazard bond system that results in people being erroneously arrested, and some people paying bond but not getting credit for having done so. Documents describe officers finding hundred dollar bills in their pockets that were given to them for bond payment and not remembering which jail detainee provided them; bond paperwork being found on the floor; and individuals being arrested after their bonds had been accepted because the corresponding warrants were never cancelled. At one point in 2012, Ferguson's Court Clerk called such issues a “daily problem.”

City officials, their friends, and their family members are highly unlikely to be in that situation. In fact, they frequently just get their traffic tickets taken care of no problem:

Even as Ferguson City officials maintain the harmful stereotype that black individuals lack personal responsibility—and continue to cite this lack of personal responsibility as the cause of the disparate impact of Ferguson’s practices— white City officials condone a striking lack of personal responsibility among themselves and their friends. Court records and emails show City officials, including the Municipal Judge, the Court Clerk, and FPD supervisors assisting friends, colleagues, acquaintances, and themselves in eliminating citations, fines, and fees.

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There is so much more that I haven't touched on here. Like I said up top, this report ought to prompt multiple Ferguson officials to resign in disgrace and provoke condemnations from across the political spectrum. Ferguson may as well be an elaborate conspiracy against its black residents. The fact that some city officials in supervisory positions sent racist emails around using their city accounts is, in context, the least surprising part of this story (though it bears mentioning that there are instances of Ferguson city, court, and police employees egregiously mistreating people of all races). Their animus isn't so total as to crowd out other kinds of misconduct.

What else could be expected when "FPD appears to intentionally not treat allegations of misconduct as complaints even where it believes that the officer in fact committed the misconduct." A sampling of those incidents will serve as our conclusion:

In one incident, for example, a supervisor wrote an email directly to an officer about a complaint the Police Chief had received about an officer speeding through the park in a neighboring town. The supervisor informed the officer that the Chief tracked the car number given by the complainant back to the officer, but assured the officer that the supervisor’s email was “[j]ust for your information. No need to reply and there is no record of this other than this email.”

In another instance referenced above, the district manager of a retail store called a commander to tell him that he had a video recording that showed an FPD officer pull up to the store at about midnight while two employees were taking out the trash, take out his weapon, and put it on top of a concrete wall, pointed at the two employees. When the employees said they were just taking out the trash and asked the officer if he needed them to take off their coats so that he could see their uniforms, the officer told the employees that he knew they were employees and that if he had not known “I would have put you on the ground.” The commander related in an email to the sergeant and lieutenant that “there is no reason to doubt the Gen. Manager because he said he watched the video and he clearly saw a weapon—maybe the sidearm or the taser.” Nonetheless, despite noting that “we don’t need cowboy” and the “major concern” of the officer taking his weapon out of his holster and placing it on a wall, the commander concluded, “[n]othing for you to do with this other than make a mental note and for you to be on the lookout for that kind of behavior.”

... In another case, an officer investigating a report of a theft at a dollar store interrogated a minister pumping gas into his church van about the theft. The man alleged that he provided his identification to the officer and offered to return to the store to prove he was not the thief. The officer instead handcuffed the man and drove him to the store. The store clerk reported that the detained man was not the thief, but the officer continued to keep the man cuffed, allegedly calling him “f*****g stupid” for asking to be released from the cuffs. The man went directly to FPD to file a complaint upon being released by the officer. FPD conducted an investigation but, because the complainant did not respond to a cell phone message left by the investigator within 13 days, reclassified the complaint as “withdrawn,” even as the investigator noted that the complaint of improper detention would otherwise have been sustained, and noted that the “[e]mployee has been counseled and retraining is forthcoming.”

In still another case, a lieutenant of a neighboring agency called FPD to report that a pizza parlor owner had complained to him that an off-duty FPD officer had become angry upon being told that police discounts were only given to officers in uniform and said to the restaurant owner as he was leaving, “I hope you get robbed!” The allegation was not considered a complaint and instead, despite its seriousness, was handled through counseling at the squad level.

Little wonder that black people in Ferguson took to the streets after the killing of Michael Brown. Sooner or later, some event was bound to push them over the edge into protest, and even if Officer Wilson acted totally unobjectionably in that encounter, it wouldn't change the fact that the general lack of confidence expressed in municipal and police leadership was well-founded. A DOJ investigation was long overdue, and so are major reforms. The full DOJ report can be found here.
 

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It's absolutely disgusting how the police act there. Apparently, Wilson killing Brown is the least racist thing a Ferguson officer has ever done.
 
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Wow what is the world coming to? Now we have to actually treat people of color with nearly the respect we demand! Next what is it going to be? Women, disabled, gays? What is the world coming to?
 

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Not really surprising. Communities usually don't react the way they did in Ferguson over a single incident, it's after years of injustice (whether perceived or real) that things blow up. Like with many issues, there seems to be blame on each side. Hopefully things get better there, sometimes this is what it takes for real change to occur.
 

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Interesting to see, today, the reports about the Ferguson Police Chief being pressured by his bosses (read: politicians, or political appointees) to increase revenue. THAT can be remedied pretty easily. Time for the citizens of Ferguson to vote to clean house at City Hall.
 

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This happens everywhere. People are scared of what is different, people treat different people differently. Is it right, no. Is it normal, for the most part yes. Do white people treat black people differently, yes. Do black people treat white people differently, yes. Do Germans treat Jews differently? Do Christians treat Muslims differently? Do Muslims treat Jews differently?

Also tell me two races or even two religions that have lived in perfect harmony after one so badly mistreated the other? I don't think I have ever mistreated an African American badly or at least it has me has never been my intent but I have been accused of it many times. Also when people talk about white privilege my immediate feeling or reaction to get/feel offended but is its not something I can really even control.

I thnk race relations and religious relations can get better but it will never ever be fixed...... In my opinion at least.
 

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I doubt Ferguson is a singlular exception in which this stuff happens. My hypothesis is that this type of behavior is prevelant in municipalities across the nation. I would like to see a top-to-bottom probe on EVERY police force in the country. I think we would be appauled at what we would learn.
 

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Yes I agree. I would be very surprised to learn that a small municipality in Missouri was the only place where this is happening. I would guess, from stories that I have heard and police actions that I have seen, that this happens in a majority of police departments.
 

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Not really surprising. Communities usually don't react the way they did in Ferguson over a single incident, it's after years of injustice (whether perceived or real) that things blow up. Like with many issues, there seems to be blame on each side. Hopefully things get better there, sometimes this is what it takes for real change to occur.

What was interesting to me is Ferguson was to see that the Mayor and Council was 100% white in a city that is 67.4% African American compared to 29.3% White.

Then I read that in the most recent mayoral election voter turnout was approximately 12% and that the Mayor ran unopposed.

Obviously stuff needs to change but I just don't think it's far to say you're being targeted by a group that you allow to be elected.

Going further, saying that blacks are disproportionately being ticketed in a city that is almost 70% black seems to be a reach. The DOJ wants so bad to make this 100% about race because the previous theme of 'hands up / don't shoot' was proven to be a lie. If people wanted to be honest, poor people are more likely to be ticketed because they are more likely to be in a position to be ticketed.

This does not excuse the other stuff that are clear signs of aggression and an untrained police force. That should change. But if you want to change that you have to start with getting better police officers and that's difficult to do when the starting salary works out to be between $13.50 to $18.00 an hour.
 

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What was interesting to me is Ferguson was to see that the Mayor and Council was 100% white in a city that is 67.4% African American compared to 29.3% White.

Then I read that in the most recent mayoral election voter turnout was approximately 12% and that the Mayor ran unopposed.

Obviously stuff needs to change but I just don't think it's far to say you're being targeted by a group that you allow to be elected.

Going further, saying that blacks are disproportionately being ticketed in a city that is almost 70% black seems to be a reach. The DOJ wants so bad to make this 100% about race because the previous theme of 'hands up / don't shoot' was proven to be a lie. If people wanted to be honest, poor people are more likely to be ticketed because they are more likely to be in a position to be ticketed.

This does not excuse the other stuff that are clear signs of aggression and an untrained police force. That should change. But if you want to change that you have to start with getting better police officers and that's difficult to do when the starting salary works out to be between $13.50 to $18.00 an hour.

Sounds like a community that has collectively thrown their hands up (no pun intended) and given up on their local officials doing anything to help them. Maybe they don't go to the polls because they see it as a futile action. The numbers in the report tell a disturbing story and trying to find justifications for why the numbers are what the numbers are is what perpetuates the disgusting practices of this police force. This story IS 100% about race ... the DOJ is reporting hard numbers that demonstrate it has been about race in Ferguson long enough to become standard operating procedure.
 

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There is a traffic pattern, on the way to drop my kids at school, that kind of sums up my feelings.

Background:
There are two left-turning lanes onto a three lane road, two of which go straight and one turns right after about 1/8 mile. It is always fairly busy, and about 50% of all traffic takes the right turn.

Scenario:
Inevitably, about 70% (no exaggeration) of people in the initial left lane, turning left, choose to cut across all three lanes of traffic, often cutting people off due to the short span to make it into the right-turning lane.

The point:
While it would have been easy to get into the rightmost left-turning lane to avoid hassling everyone else/causing accidents/just generally being a douche, the majority of people CHOOSE not to do that.

I see this behavior repeated, every single day. Demographics aside, I find myself assuming that this will happen and pre-judging everyone in the left lane, and to a lesser degree, developing stereotypes about drivers in general in my area of the country.

The point is that stereotypes are unavoidable, and you could even argue, a natural self-preservation response to events that happen in your life. I find I have to proactively work very hard to prevent myself from pre-judging people. I think the object of my stereotype (those that put themselves ahead at the expense of others to save 7 seconds on their daily commute) SHOULD be working just as hard to avoid this behavior.

Stereotypes will never go away, I think its human nature, but it is only going to get worse if both sides (in the above example) make no effort to change.

All that said, targeting, especially based on race alone, is inexcusable....especially by those we entrust to promote justice, above all else. It's also easy to sit on a pedestal, 1000 miles away and say this. Without having lived there and experienced it, I have to rely on people closer to the situation for the real picture.

sorry for going OT.
 

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Problems with the narrative

Problems with the narrative

A few questions:

(1) White overrepresentation on the police force and in city hall in Ferguson is supposed to be evidence of racism. But when whites move out of the city to other suburbs, this is also supposed to be evidence of racism. So what are whites supposed to do, exactly?

(2) The Atlanta Police Department (56% black officers, black arrest rate of 265.4, non-black arrest rate of 49.8) seems to be a counter-example to the narrative. Can anybody find a municipality with a sizable black population (i.e. 5% or more) where blacks aren't arrested more often than whites? Are we supposed to believe that this is evidence of nationwide racism, even among black-majority police departments?
 

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Sounds like a community that has collectively thrown their hands up (no pun intended) and given up on their local officials doing anything to help them. Maybe they don't go to the polls because they see it as a futile action. The numbers in the report tell a disturbing story and trying to find justifications for why the numbers are what the numbers are is what perpetuates the disgusting practices of this police force. This story IS 100% about race ... the DOJ is reporting hard numbers that demonstrate it has been about race in Ferguson long enough to become standard operating procedure.

I don't agree.

First off, it's not a futile action. You know this. I know this. They know this.

It's being indifferent, which is a perfectly acceptable position...until you want to voice outrage as to what's going on around you. If you're going to be indifferent during elections you should be indifferent with the results that come from who is elected.

Beyond that, the mayor ran unopposed. NOBODY stepped up to run against him. Yet when sh*t hits the fan there were hundreds of 'community leaders' all voicing their concern.

If you think this is 100% about race and you're unwilling to factor in indifference than you're either ignorant or a race baiter in my eyes and a discussion with you is meaningless.
 

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What concerns me is that the racial makeup of the Ferguson Police Department will end up more closely tracking with the racial makeup of the city, and the present problem may still persist. It's very possible that this is more about class than race. The poor can least afford proper legal representation, and can therefore be nickel and dimed to generate revenue much easier than other demographics.
 

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I don't agree.

First off, it's not a futile action. You know this. I know this. They know this.

It's being indifferent, which is a perfectly acceptable position...until you want to voice outrage as to what's going on around you. If you're going to be indifferent during elections you should be indifferent with the results that come from who is elected.

Beyond that, the mayor ran unopposed. NOBODY stepped up to run against him. Yet when sh*t hits the fan there were hundreds of 'community leaders' all voicing their concern.

If you think this is 100% about race and you're unwilling to factor in indifference than you're either ignorant or a race baiter in my eyes and a discussion with you is meaningless.

Well, thank you for your thoughtful and civil rebuttle. The probe was about race and whether or not the police in Ferguson were applying justice equally across all races in their citizenry. If you think that me pointing out this indusputable fact is race baiting, then we are in agreement that this discussion is meaningless. The probe uncovered deep and longstanding patterns of discrimination and unfair treatment. That has nothing to do with who voted and who didn't. It is about people being systematically treated as second-class citizens.

I'm not even saying that I agree or disagree with their voting patterns. I'm simply offering an alternative point of view to the "they don't vote so they shouldn't expect fair government" position. There are likely reasons that they don't vote that you or I are not aware of. In any event, the dismissive attitude about their voting record is really just beside the point altogether. As citizens, they have the right to be treated fairly and equitably by the police, and whether they vote or not they have a Constitutional right to voice their concerns, whether you believe they deserve our indiffernce or not.
 

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How can it be "race-baiting" (dumb term btw) when the Department of Justice proved that race was incredibly important in this scenario? Police calling citizens by slurs, black citizens being pulled over way more often even though it was statistically less-successful in searches, all of the ancedotes, every dog attack was against a black person.
 

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How can it be "race-baiting" (dumb term btw) when the Department of Justice proved that race was incredibly important in this scenario? Police calling citizens by slurs, black citizens being pulled over way more often even though it was statistically less-successful in searches, all of the ancedotes, every dog attack was against a black person.

It's called "race-bating" when the truth is too inconvenient to accept and you and left with nothing but attacking those who have accepted reality.
 
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