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Turner needs games. Which he really has not gotten in Europe. If he's going to Lyon, he has to start more often than not. Otherwise, get him somewhere where he can.

I guess I'm confused with what you disagree with. What I'm gathering you're saying here is Turner is shit, but everyone else is more shit, which I suppose I agree with which is why I think it is likely Turner that gives them the best chance less than a year from now.

Poch needs the best version of Matt Turner for the World Cup next year. I don't know if a better option is going to emerge between now and then.

I think Turner has to be the guy for all the reasons you're stating here. There is no one else. If he's going to Lyon, he has to be playing every single week in addition to being part of Poch's squads leading up to the World Cup. If that happens, it can only be good, because he spent most of last year picking his seat.
Yes, I would the USMNT goalkeeping situation has never been this bleak, and it is terrible timing when we will be competing in the most important World Cup of likely most of our lifetimes.
The one position we could consistently rely on for the past two decades has quickly become our second biggest liability behind center back.
 

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Yes, I would the USMNT goalkeeping situation has never been this bleak, and it is terrible timing when we will be competing in the most important World Cup of likely most of our lifetimes.
The one position we could consistently rely on for the past two decades has quickly become our second biggest liability behind center back.
It is undoubtedly the worst period for goalkeeping in the USMNT for a generation.

As for center back, if there is one person other than Diego Luna who has shown some grit as of late it is Chris Richards.
 

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It is undoubtedly the worst period for goalkeeping in the USMNT for a generation.

As for center back, if there is one person other than Diego Luna who has shown some grit as of late it is Chris Richards.
Yes, agreed.
Unfortunately, we need to start two center backs next year...and a 38 year old Tim Ream isn't exactly giving me a great deal of confidence at the moment.
Miles Robinson Achilles injury was a huge blow for the program.
He would have been the starter for likely two straight world cup cycles.
We will see if we have any breakout candidates over these next 12 months, because we cannot expect Time Ream to play 270+ minutes in the American summer heat next year and not have something go horribly wrong during the group stage games.
 

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Yes, agreed.
Unfortunately, we need to start two center backs next year...and a 38 year old Tim Ream isn't exactly giving me a great deal of confidence at the moment.
Miles Robinson Achilles injury was a huge blow for the program.
He would have been the starter for likely two straight world cup cycles.
We will see if we have any breakout candidates over these next 12 months, because we cannot expect Time Ream to play 270+ minutes in the American summer heat next year and not have something go horribly wrong during the group stage games.
What's the story with Carter Vickers?
 

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What's the story with Carter Vickers?
I would say he has the best shot.
He has limited experience with Poch since they overlapped at Spurs for a few years, plus he has the best club success over the past few years outside of Chirs Richards with his success at Celtic.
(3) Team of the year's in Scottish Premiership
Almost (40) club appearances per year for 4+ straight years.
Champions League experience
Playing in the pressure of one of the biggest clubs in Europe

It sounds like he is possibly moving to PL side this summer, which I believe he and his agent have been told would greatly help his World Cup chances, on top of a likely nice pay raise.
 

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US was the better team in the first half, it was 1-1.

Would rather have not gone to penalties, but man, did Matt Freese step up big. He could end up being the guy when all is said and done.

I hope Costa Rica didn't take too much out of them. Guatemala is playing with a ton of confidence right now and no fear.
 

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At the 60 minute mark the USMNT was gassed-passes were junk and they kept going for "hope" crosses and thru balls. Disappointing they couldn't keep the energy up for the entire game.
 

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At the 60 minute mark the USMNT was gassed-passes were junk and they kept going for "hope" crosses and thru balls. Disappointing they couldn't keep the energy up for the entire game.
Very close to going up 3-1. Hit the crossbar.

Would have rather not gone to pens, but grinding one out might have been just what they need. Guatemala won't be any easier I'm guessing.
 

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Very close to going up 3-1. Hit the crossbar.

Would have rather not gone to pens, but grinding one out might have been just what they need. Guatemala won't be any easier I'm guessing.
Ranked 106th in the world.
Don't have anybody on thier squad playing in a meaningful league in Europe.

This USA squad should play them off the pitch and dominate.
I get that it's CONACAF, but this is a home game for USA at a Soccer specific stadium in St. Louis with proper grass for soccer.
It should be at a minimum a comfortable two goal victory.
 

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Ranked 106th in the world.
Don't have anybody on thier squad playing in a meaningful league in Europe.

This USA squad should play them off the pitch and dominate.
I get that it's CONACAF, but this is a home game for USA at a Soccer specific stadium in St. Louis with proper grass for soccer.
It should be at a minimum a comfortable two goal victory.

We talking about the same U.S. team? Having superior talent is zero indication of what result we'll get.
 

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We talking about the same U.S. team? Having superior talent is zero indication of what result we'll get.
I get the skepticism, I personally am at my lowest caring level when it comes to USA soccer now on my third decade on this planet, but we're talking about a home game at a soccer specific stadium with proper football pitch conditions against Guatemala here.

Things are looking bleak if this is anywhere near a competitive match one year out from hosting the World Cup.
 

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Ranked 106th in the world.
Don't have anybody on thier squad playing in a meaningful league in Europe.


This USA squad should play them off the pitch and dominate.
I get that it's CONACAF, but this is a home game for USA at a Soccer specific stadium in St. Louis with proper grass for soccer.
It should be at a minimum a comfortable two goal victory.
You're actually one of the people on this board who follows the sport, so I'm going to ignore this portion of the post because you ultimately know better. It's the knockout round of a summer tournament. Nobody gives half a watery shit what their world ranking is.

They beat Jamaica for the first time ever and just knocked Canada (who in some circles were favorites) out on pens. They're confident, not to mention Costa Rica battered the US around pretty good yesterday. Both teams should have some bumps and bruises.

Hope you're right, but I expect a fight.
 

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Very close to going up 3-1. Hit the crossbar.

Would have rather not gone to pens, but grinding one out might have been just what they need. Guatemala won't be any easier I'm guessing.
All of the favorites minus Mexico are out.

That being said anything is possible with this tournament. I would feel safe about any opponent b
 

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You're actually one of the people on this board who follows the sport, so I'm going to ignore this portion of the post because you ultimately know better. It's the knockout round of a summer tournament. Nobody gives half a watery shit what their world ranking is.

They beat Jamaica for the first time ever and just knocked Canada (who in some circles were favorites) out on pens. They're confident, not to mention Costa Rica battered the US around pretty good yesterday. Both teams should have some bumps and bruises.

Hope you're right, but I expect a fight.
We last played Guatemala in a home game that was “meaningful” in 2016
It was a WCQ that if we lost, we wouldn’t have even made it to the Hex stage of Conacaf World Cup qualifying for Brazil.

That crop of boys went out and blew them off the pitch and won 4-0 in style.

I understand this is at best a B- team, but we will likely have a transfer market value starting 11 on Wednesday that may be as high as 75-100X more expensive then the squad guatmela will put out there.

We need to see Poch ball in action, and dominate an inferior opponent in a big summer moment.

I just want to feel good about this program for the first time in like two years on Wednesday night.
A midfield of Adams, Tillman, Berhalter, Cardoso (if he gets out of the dog house) should run circles around Guatemala.
 
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People are worried we'll lose to Guatemala? WTF. Has Guatemala ever been good? Have they ever gualified for the World Cup thru CONCACAF?
 

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Inter and City, go down in the same day !!! WOW….. the City vs Al Hilal match was electric !
 

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Inter and City, go down in the same day !!! WOW….. the City vs Al Hilal match was electric !
Best match of the tournament so far. Al Hilal has electric pace on the front line and great distribution on counters from midfielders/Neves.
 

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People are worried we'll lose to Guatemala? WTF. Has Guatemala ever been good? Have they ever gualified for the World Cup thru CONCACAF?
1. That is not what was said.
2. They're in the semifinal of a Gold Cup.
3. I'm not sure why that's relevant to tomorrow's match.
 

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Best match of the tournament so far. Al Hilal has electric pace on the front line and great distribution on counters from midfielders/Neves.
It for sure was. They were notttt scared at all. Even after going down 0-1 (debatable hand ball) …. Soooo fun to watch . And now we get to see them go against a wild Brasilian team, next (Fuck inter! Forza Milan!)
 

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First game I’ve watched in the Gold Cup. Was really impressed with Mexico. Seemed the much better team. Not sure if this was just a one off or if they’ve got a really good team these days.
 

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US and Mexico are right next to each other in World rankings. In classic fashion, US looks bad when it really matters. We have been incredibly disappointing on the national stage for years. Mexico was the aggressor all night and earned the win.
 

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Scandalous to not give that handball. He literally used the ball to posture himself off the ground in the box.
 

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I should add that many of the US best players did not play in the gold cup including Reyna and pulisic. I’ve just been frustrated with this team over the years
 
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