david pollack

[irishtrain]

At a minimum, Stanford's recruits have to meet the same academic requirements as ND recruits do, possibly higher (for students in general, Stanford is a much harder to get into than ND). Insinuating that Stanford has lower standards for recruits is way off base. Stanford's football program is where it is vis-a-vis ND's program because Harbaugh has done a better job recruiting and developing players than his counterpart at ND.

You missed my point, I was not insinuating anything more than asking the question are the football players an exact mirror of the student body. Obviously you are pro Stanford or a grad, good for you, my question leans toward finding out if they are challanged like a regular student. Many people say well Stanford is getting it done. I am open to proof but my instincts tell me otherwise. Its just a question on my part because what you are saying is that Jim Harbaugh has been able to do what no other coach has ever done at Stanford. John Ralston couldnt even maintain a winning tradition years ago. The point is that Notre Dame is being asked to provide alot on both sides of the equation and my thoughts are it cant be done. Dont get your pants in a bunch as I could care less about Stanford one way or the other. I just would like proof that a school (any school) with high academic standards is asking their football players to be the mirror image of the student body. One last thing, when people say a certain coach is coaching so well that he developes these guys so much better than other coaches do you understand how much time that takes from school, and they are only allowed so much in season practice time as the NCAA allows. I'm willing to agree but I'm not agreeing until its proven that these guys are so extraordinary that they can be tremendous students and superior athletes at the same time.

 

[IrishLax]

At a minimum, Stanford's recruits have to meet the same academic requirements as ND recruits do, possibly higher (for students in general, Stanford is a much harder to get into than ND). Insinuating that Stanford has lower standards for recruits is way off base. Stanford's football program is where it is vis-a-vis ND's program because Harbaugh has done a better job recruiting and developing players than his counterpart at ND.

Frankly, Stanford is not THAT much harder to get into than ND. I say that speaking as someone who got into both and have 3 friends getting their Ph.D's there as we speak. I also come from a high school where the average SAT score far surpassed the average of the incoming freshman Harvard class each year, so I've gotten a pretty good look at what it takes to get into these schools. Really, selectivity breaks down into tiers.

There is the "be special" tier (MIT, Harvard, Yale, etc.) where you have to be the child of a power/important person, have an athletic trait they desire, be a one-legged North Korean violin prodigy or just be so freakishly smart/good at what you do they can't turn down someone of your character.

Below that is the "be really ****ing smart" tier (Duke, Stanford, Penn, etc.) where you just have to be an awesome student to get in. I respect these schools the most for a lot of reasons.

The tier below that is the "be really smart" tier (Northwestern, WashU, Notre Dame, Hopkins, etc.) where the kids are usually just a notch below the tier 2 kids. The truth is most of the kids that end up at these schools are usually the same ones that get wait listed at Duke or Stanford or a place like that. At worst, their average SAT score is maybe 50-100 points below the Tier 2 schools.

I don't know what this has to do with Pollack, but I couldn't let a stupid statement like that go uncorrected. Later.

 

[irishtrain]

It was my fault for getting this off subject-I responded to Pollack and the standard 'well Stanford is doing it' line when he discussed how to fix Notre Dame. Notre Dame doesnt need fixed if this is the way they want it.

 

[lookingdeadred]

The only thing obvious is how wrong you are

The only thing obvious is how wrong you are

You missed my point, I was not insinuating anything more than asking the question are the football players an exact mirror of the student body. Obviously you are pro Stanford or a grad, good for you,

I have no personal stake in Stanford other than geographic proximity. As for missing your point, there was nothing to miss as your point is a baseless opinion, a hunch. BTW, are ND players exact mirrors of the overall student population? Harbaugh has done at Stanford what no coach at ND has been able to do in many years. Accept it and hope that BK can do something similar at ND.

 

[lookingdeadred]

Facts are inconvenient things, maybe that is why you ignore them.

Facts are inconvenient things, maybe that is why you ignore them.

Frankly, Stanford is not THAT much harder to get into than ND. I say that speaking as someone who got into both and have 3 friends getting their Ph.D's there as we speak. I also come from a high school where the average SAT score far surpassed the average of the incoming freshman Harvard class each year, so I've gotten a pretty good look at what it takes to get into these schools. Really, selectivity breaks down into tiers.

I don't know what this has to do with Pollack, but I couldn't let a stupid statement like that go uncorrected. Later.

29% of applicants get into ND, 9% get into Stanford.

 

[WabashFalcon]

*Yawns*

 

[IrishBlood81]

*Yawns*

+1



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[lookingdeadred]

And you assume incorrectly

And you assume incorrectly

The only connection I have to Stanford is geographic proximity.

Oh and BTW, are ND players the exact mirror of the student body? I doubt it.

You missed my point, I was not insinuating anything more than asking the question are the football players an exact mirror of the student body. Obviously you are pro Stanford or a grad, good for you,

 

[lookingdeadred]

Facts can be inconvenient things, maybe that is why you ignore them.

Facts can be inconvenient things, maybe that is why you ignore them.

29% of applicants made it into ND, while 9% got into Stanford.

Frankly, Stanford is not THAT much harder to get into than ND. I say that speaking as someone who got into both and have 3 friends getting their Ph.D's there as we speak. I also come from a high school where the average SAT score far surpassed the average of the incoming freshman Harvard class each year, so I've gotten a pretty good look at what it takes to get into these schools. Really, selectivity breaks down into tiers.

There is the "be special" tier (MIT, Harvard, Yale, etc.) where you have to be the child of a power/important person, have an athletic trait they desire, be a one-legged North Korean violin prodigy or just be so freakishly smart/good at what you do they can't turn down someone of your character.

Below that is the "be really ****ing smart" tier (Duke, Stanford, Penn, etc.) where you just have to be an awesome student to get in. I respect these schools the most for a lot of reasons.

The tier below that is the "be really smart" tier (Northwestern, WashU, Notre Dame, Hopkins, etc.) where the kids are usually just a notch below the tier 2 kids. The truth is most of the kids that end up at these schools are usually the same ones that get wait listed at Duke or Stanford or a place like that. At worst, their average SAT score is maybe 50-100 points below the Tier 2 schools.

I don't know what this has to do with Pollack, but I couldn't let a stupid statement like that go uncorrected. Later.

 

[IrishinSyria]

nm

 

[JKhrome1ND]

hahahaha my bad guys i got use started on stanford-notre dame academics "if stanford can do it, so can ND" and off the David Pollack title hahaha oh well

 

[IrishLax]

Necro thread!

Anyone know what David Pollack's ethnicity is?

 

[KPENN]

Trinity started this thread

 

[ulukinatme]

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[Blaise]

I enjoy Pollack.. Love his game insights.. Knows what he is talking about

 

[Irish2155]

I'm pretty sure he's half douchebag on his father's side, and part cunt/part bitch on his mother's side.

This is a word I only use under very certain terms. Not sure it's appropriate for this thread.

Anyways, Pollack isn't that bad...

 

[Teomonsternd]

I agree, Pollack is pretty good. Just now he said that if Clemson lost to Notre Dame, it would not be "Clemsoning," because Notre Dame is a good team. It does show you how far this program has come in 5 years. They go from being completely irrelevant with no chance to become great again, to being an acceptable loss at home for an undefeated Clemson team. I don't think Pollack was wrong about how bad Notre Dame was back then; clearly he has admitted he was wrong about the team's ability to become good again. Tto be honest, when Charlie left, the cupboard was pretty dry, we couldn't compete with heavyweights, the pundits were right. I think the biggest problem was his complete neglect of the offensive line position as a whole. Luckily he had recruited Te'o and Floyd and Kelly has resurrected the trenches while adding some nice skill players on both sides of the ball. Our team is littered with future NFL players right now. Pollack was wrong, and he's admitted his mistake. I think he knows his stuff. Didn't realize how good of a college player he was.

Last name: Pollack
Tweet This interesting surname may be of Scottish locational origin from a place called Pollock in Strathclyde, apparently so called from a diminutive of a British (the extinct Celtic language of the ancient Britons) cognitive of the Gaelic "poll" meaning "pool or pit". It may also be of Ashkenazic and German origin, being an ethnic name for someone from Poland. In the case of the Ashkenazic name, the reference is to a person of Hebrew origin from Poland or from some other Slavonic speaking region. The surname dates back to the late 12th Century (see below). Church Recordings include on Elizabeth, daughter of Christopher Pollock, who was christened on July 30th 1592, at St. Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London. Sir Jonathan Frederick Pollock (1783 - 1870), first baronet, was a judge; he was barrister, Middle Temple (1809), K.C. (1827), Tory M.P. for Huntingdonshire from 1831, knighted (1834), attorney general in Peel's first administration (1834 - 1835), and in his second administration (1841 - 1844), chief baron of the exchequer (1844 - 1866), created baronet (1866). One Nancy Pollock, a famine emigrant, sailed from Liverpool aboard the "Sheridan" bound for New York on May 7th 1846. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Peter de Pollok, which was dated circa 1172 - 1178, Charter witness for the King, at the Abbey of Kinlos, Moray, during the reign of King William "The Lion" of Scotland, 1165 - 1214. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

 

[TheChosen1]

He needs a better hair and makeup person. He looks like a clown sometimes.

 

[Old Man Mike]

David Pollack was an utter stud havoc-wreaker defensive end at Georgia who played in the NFL until injured. A football monster at Georgia. When he retired to get into broadcasting he lost his extra weight to get down from the approximate 275 that he played at. One reason that he looks "hollow-eyed" might be that. The real reason is more probably that he is a potentially REALLY violent man, who it would be ill-advised to call a clown, which he is not on any scale.

Pollack's smart and he works hard, almost as much as Palmer [who works harder than almost anybody trying to become ready for the commentary.] Pollack and Palmer are both ex-SEC ball-players so they've seen football through "southern" eyes --- Pollack more than Palmer. Palmer has always realized that his success in sticking in a prime-time role depends on damping down southern bias; Pollack has in the last years also seemed to understand this. But he is more frank than Palmer, so more willing to give you more bulletin-board material.

The thing about Pollack as concerns Notre Dame/Clemson is that he believes that Clemson has demonstrated more consistency at top-15 quality football over the last decade [and unfortunately he is right.] He is waiting for Notre Dame to "show him" that we're really back from the last two decades and [sadly] we haven't yet. I believe that the whole nation is waiting on this and the USC games to see if, at least this year, we ARE really back. In that David Pollack is "normal".

 

[dwshade]

This is a word I only use under very certain terms. Not sure it's appropriate for this thread.

Anyways, Pollack isn't that bad...

I'd say it was a classless comment. I've met David a couple of times and a friend of mine coached him at Shiloh high school. Really good guy, has a beautiful family, devout Christian, does charity work in Atlanta area for underprivileged children.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

I'd say it was a classless comment. I've met David a couple of times and a friend of mine coached him at Shiloh high school. Really good guy, has a beautiful family, devout Christian, does charity work in Atlanta area for underprivileged children

 

[FDNYIrish1]

I'd say it was a classless comment. I've met David a couple of times and a friend of mine coached him at Shiloh high school. Really good guy, has a beautiful family, devout Christian, does charity work in Atlanta area for underprivileged children.

That's all fine and good, but he said some mean things about ND football being a bad team when we were a bad team, so screw him. (Sarcasm). Actually loved watching him when he played.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

This is a word I only use under very certain terms. Not sure it's appropriate for this thread.

Anyways, Pollack isn't that bad...

Really? What makes it so? I don't think it's that big a of a deal at all really...would love to understand why calling somebody a cunt would carry more weight than calling somebody an ass, a dick, a moron, etc. Not trying to call you out or anything, just honest fascination with how people are about words and the perceived hierarchy of meanings assigned to them.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Really? What makes it so? I don't think it's that big a of a deal at all really...would love to understand why calling somebody a cunt would carry more weight than calling somebody an ass, a dick, a moron, etc. Not trying to call you out or anything, just honest fascination with how people are about words and the perceived hierarchy of meanings assigned to them.

If you've ever hung out with an Irishman, you quickly get used to hearing it lol. I'm with you on this, I never understood why this particular word sets people off. Especially women. Disclaimer: I've never actually called a woman this word but have been present when it's happened.

 

[ulukinatme]

I removed the comment. It was made in jest, but people carry a torch for the guy, so whatever. I don't care for most of these former SEC talking heads because they rarely give us the time of day.

Really? What makes it so? I don't think it's that big a of a deal at all really...would love to understand why calling somebody a cunt would carry more weight than calling somebody an ass, a dick, a moron, etc. Not trying to call you out or anything, just honest fascination with how people are about words and the perceived hierarchy of meanings assigned to them.

This, my word. Someone actually negged me for it. The guy has no love for ND, don't know why people's panties get in such a bunch.

 

[Irish2155]

Really? What makes it so? I don't think it's that big a of a deal at all really...would love to understand why calling somebody a cunt would carry more weight than calling somebody an ass, a dick, a moron, etc. Not trying to call you out or anything, just honest fascination with how people are about words and the perceived hierarchy of meanings assigned to them.

Yeah, really...I can't explain it either but that word carries different weight than the other examples you've provided.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yeah, really...I can't explain it either but that word carries different weight than the other examples you've provided.

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