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Irish#1 said:
I think we all do. You just have someone on here that likes to label some as bigots, simply because they don't step 100% in line with their beliefs.
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Never once called you a bigot bub. You are the one who classified all Muslims as sympathetic to Sharia Law and that they can't assimilate. I don't agree with anyone on here 100%, but they don't spiral into becoming a victim.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Never once called you a bigot bub. You are the one who classified all Muslims as sympathetic to Sharia Law and that they can't assimilate. I don't agree with anyone on here 100%, but they don't spiral into becoming a victim.
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So the post you made that listed me, Sea Turtle, Cal and Blazer as freaking out about Muslims isn't referring to us as being bigots? Why else would someone freak out? You've inferred me as being a bigot more than once. You just like to like to choose your words carefully so you can have plausible deniability.

Who on here agrees 100% with anyone on here? I'm not a victim. I just don't like your continuous inference to me and others as being such. Maybe the others don't want to, but I have no problem calling you out. Ask yourself this. Why do you keep making those posts?
 
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Irish#1 said:
So the post you made that listed me, Sea Turtle, Cal and Blazer as freaking out about Muslims isn't referring to us as being bigots? Why else would someone freak out? You've inferred me as being a bigot more than once. You just like to like to choose your words carefully so you can have plausible deniability.

Who on here agrees 100% with anyone on here? I'm not a victim. I just don't like your continuous inference to me and others as being such. Maybe the others don't want to, but I have no problem calling you out. Ask yourself this. Why do you keep making those posts?
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No? I would say it if I meant it. You are inside your head about this. I had no problem calling Giddyup antisemitic when he was saying insane shit, why would I hold my tongue? Plausible deniability about what? I don't think anyone holds their tongue when talking about me, why should I do the same?

No one? You've continually said "If you don't with XYZ 100% then Toronto/Anyone else on the left thinks you're a bigot/racist/xenophobe" instead of explaining your position you revert to "well you're just calling me a bigot/racist". If I thought you were one I would say it.

Ask myself why I keep making these posts? Why wouldn't I? You made a post that was blatantly wrong about Ilhan Omar not condemning a shooting and there are multiple posts made that you've made that are blanket statements on Muslim people as a whole. You don't address them, and just respond with laugh emojis, saying that I called you a bigot, or just ignore them. I'm sorry my views are different.
 
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Irish#1 said:
I think we all do. You just have someone on here that likes to label some as bigots, simply because they don't step 100% in line with their beliefs.
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Uh…if you quickly jump to conclusions based largely on assumptions surrounding religious affiliation and or ethnicity, that does in fact make you a bigot. I’ve known lots of bigots over the years and we all have our own internal biases.

The fact that some swallowed this bullshit report hook line and sinker without even bothering to cross reference or check the veracity of the claims also indicates a bigoted nature. Is what it is.
 
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Bluto said:
The fact that some swallowed this bullshit report hook line and sinker without even bothering to cross reference or check the veracity of the claims also indicates a bigoted nature. Is what it is.
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Even more telling is how none of them ever own up to being incorrect or acknowledge that what they posted was complete bullshit. They just post racist false information and move on.

At the end of the day, they don't care if the information is correct or not, they just care that it reinforces their racist worldview and that is good enough for them.
 
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Bluto said:
You could just tell your kid that being an antagonistic asshole is lame and model said ideals.

Being a “Christian” who cheers some dude shooting people is pretty weird.
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I know your reading comprehension is better than that Bluto. You seem to ignore the "Don't make yourself a target and be vigilant" part.

Classic commie move trying to use someone's morals against them taunting the whole "being a Christian" line in defense of lawless deviants taking a dirt nap.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Do you disagree with “Free Palestine”?
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For far too many Free Palestine is the slogan that simply is cover for “I hate Jews”.

Palestinians won’t be free until they stop supporting terrorist organizations.

Free Palestine of Hamas
 
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ab2cmiller said:
For far too many Free Palestine is the slogan that simply is cover for “I hate Jews”.

Palestinians won’t be free until they stop supporting terrorist organizations.

Free Palestine of Hamas
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And those people are rooted out, no? Should those people be representative of the entire movement?

Why do you think that Hamas is more popular than the Israeli government? Do you think the current approach is conducive to success?

Which party is more responsible for legitimizing Hamas, foreign governments treating them as the legitimate representative of the Palestinians in Gaza or the residents of Gaza?
 
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Bluto said:
Uh…if you quickly jump to conclusions based largely on assumptions surrounding religious affiliation and or ethnicity, that does in fact make you a bigot. I’ve known lots of bigots over the years and we all have our own internal biases.

The fact that some swallowed this bullshit report hook line and sinker without even bothering to cross reference or check the veracity of the claims also indicates a bigoted nature. Is what it is.
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My past and present hiring practices show I don't label a group, but you guys can think what you want. I'm fine with myself.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Do you disagree with “Free Palestine”?
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Free Palestine means very different things to different people. What does that phrase mean to you? I think I know but just want to be sure.

Anybody else can chime in with their thoughts on it as well. I'll post mine and my ideas a little later. This way, at least we can all have an honest discussion about what we are even talking about and what could be a more tolerable situation as it relates to the Palestinian muslims, Bedouins and christians living in Gaza and the West Bank.
 
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Sea Turtle said:
Free Palestine means very different things to different people. What does that phrase mean to you? I think I know but just want to be sure.

Anybody else can chime in with their thoughts on it as well. I'll post mine and my ideas a little later. This way, at least we can all have an honest discussion about what we are even talking about and what could be a more tolerable situation as it relates to the Palestinian muslims, Bedouins and christians living in Gaza and the West Bank.
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My opinion obliviously carries very little weight - but my ideal outcome is for a single secular state solution.

Having an enthostate is not a feasible way of governance in 2025. I think theocracies are also very bad, which is evidenced by the Western world not having any.

Maintenance of Israel as it currently stands is not logical of feasible. You can not have extremists like Bibi or Ben Givir in power any longer. They are falsely claiming that Judaism = Israel, and that is incredibly wrong. The governments actions with respect to the West Bank remove any sort of good faith belief in Bibi allowing for a normalization of non-Hamas controlled areas. When Bibi or their leadership trot out the tired talking points of saying any criticism of Israel is antisemitism it is literally feeding into those insane conspiracies that whack jobs says “oh the Jews are running the world” because which other country does the US give billions to that caries out the kind of atrocities that Israel does? The idiots don’t realize that the US gives Israel carte blanche not because it’s anything to do with Judaism but maintaining a western aligned base in the ME has been core to foreign policy.

In an ideal world, once Israel fully takes control of Gaza and establishes control, the current Israeli leadership gets thrown in jail or removed, new non-radical leadership takes over and starts a normalization process between Palestinians and Israelis that drops the barriers between the two, stops recognizing Hamas as anything other than a terrorist organization and actually supports normal Palestinian parties instead of propping Hamas up. Two state solution is rife with chaos and essentially just sets up a Syria 2.0 electric bombaloo situation.

All this to say - dopes who can’t tell the difference between sects of Islam or understand that being Jewish is a ethnicity and is different than just being a religion commenting on the subject dismissing the real hardships that people face is disgusting. Especially when those same people hand waved away antisemitism before. (Not speaking to you Sea Turtle)
 
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Sea Turtle said:
Free Palestine means very different things to different people. What does that phrase mean to you? I think I know but just want to be sure.

Anybody else can chime in with their thoughts on it as well. I'll post mine and my ideas a little later. This way, at least we can all have an honest discussion about what we are even talking about and what could be a more tolerable situation as it relates to the Palestinian muslims, Bedouins and christians living in Gaza and the West Bank.
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Free Palestine Is one phrase they love to shout, without ever setting foot on the land they want free.

Let's start with "from the river to the sea"
That is genocide. Most people think that's cute, without knowing the true meaning of the words they throw.



 
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ab2cmiller said:
For far too many Free Palestine is the slogan that simply is cover for “I hate Jews”.

Palestinians won’t be free until they stop supporting terrorist organizations.

Free Palestine of Hamas
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With regards to your first paragraph, how did you come to this conclusion?
 
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