COVID-19

[NEIIrish]

No, it’s absolutely shameful that Biden had to pardon Fauci and members of the Jan.6 committee to guard against revenge by the Trump administration. You fucking fascist cocksucker.

Go take your meds.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Will all of you shut the hell up? We are playing for a national championship today. Who gives a shit about anything else.

 

[MacIrish75]

Holy shit we play for a national championship tonight. Can we not take a moratorium on the politics until after we win today?

 

[MacIrish75]

Will all of you shut the hell up? We are playing for a national championship today. Who gives a shit about anything else.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Holy shit we play for a national championship tonight. Can we not take a moratorium on the politics until after we win today?

My brother! Irish by a million.

 

[MacIrish75]

Suck my fucking dick, Nazi.

Ope

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Election denial is going to be institutionalized in North Carolina in short order.

At least I'll have the National Championship tonight. Cheaper eggs tomorrow, not so much.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Trump didn’t pardon himself or any of his friends and got dragged through courts for 4 years. Guilty or not Biden pardoning himself and family just means we will never get the truth through the court system. And you can argue they wouldn’t get fair trials all you want but Trump certainly didn’t.

You mean like Kushner, Bannon, Flynn, Stone...etc?

Right.

 

[sixstar]

After years of FOIA requests and litigation, FDA finally produced a portion of its “Empirical Bayesian (EB) data mining” reports for shot safety.

Note: CDC Standard Operating Procedure defines a safety signal as PRR > 2.0.

Here are all events with PRR > 2.0 as tracked by FDA analysts.

The messaging was "safe and effective" despite COVID-19 infection PRR @ 52 and myocarditis PRR @ 50.
And there was never even a warning label.

 

[ulukinatme]

Over the weekend the CIA came to the conclusion most sane people came to 5 years ago. To be fair, they say it's in low confidance...but c'mon. Other than the Chinese, the only group that was allowed to investigate the Wuhan lab was the WHO, who China already has a heavy control over from the top down.

The CIA believes COVID most likely originated from a lab but has low confidence in its own finding

The CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory.

apnews.com

 

[Giddyup]

Yeah thanks CIA. Most common sense people figured that out 5 yrs ago

 

[Bluto]

Over the weekend the CIA came to the conclusion most sane people came to 5 years ago. To be fair, they say it's in low confidance...but c'mon. Other than the Chinese, the only group that was allowed to investigate the Wuhan lab was the WHO, who China already has a heavy control over from the top down.

The CIA believes COVID most likely originated from a lab but has low confidence in its own finding

The CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory.

apnews.com

You conveniently forgot to highlight that they expressed a “low level of confidence” in their conclusion/finding.

Weird seeing people bash the “deep state” then point to the CIA as a source to back their claim.

 

[Giddyup]

Blame it on the bats (rain)


I kinda feel bad that bluto is that naive. Not really but..

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

You conveniently forgot to highlight that they expressed a “low level of confidence” in their conclusion/finding.

Weird seeing people bash the “deep state” then point to the CIA as a source to back their claim.

Its absolutely mind boggling that any adult with a fully functioning brain could have been alive for the last 5 years and still believe left is the way. I pray for you.

 

[RDU Irish]

US funding foreign gain of function research seems to be the worst of both worlds. Pretty obvious they do it for plausible deniability when shit goes wrong (like this) and our entire apparatus was distinctly motivated to blame people for humping pangolins and eating bat soup.

Blaming China is low T - the US was paying for it and complicit. Just like so many other agencies - NIH needs a deep cleanse and dramatically reduced scope. But please shove a massive scope all the way up their ass first - no lube.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Over the weekend the CIA came to the conclusion most sane people came to 5 years ago. To be fair, they say it's in low confidance...but c'mon. Other than the Chinese, the only group that was allowed to investigate the Wuhan lab was the WHO, who China already has a heavy control over from the top down.

The CIA believes COVID most likely originated from a lab but has low confidence in its own finding

The CIA now believes the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory.

apnews.com

Really China controls the WHO?

Here's a list of WHO's top donors:

U.S.: $958 million
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation: $689 million
Gavi, The Vaccine Alliance: $500 million
European Commission: $412 million
World Bank: $268 million
Germany: $324 million
United Kingdom: $215 million
Canada: $141 million
European Investment Bank: $119 million

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-01-28/who-funds-the-world-health-organization-a-list-of-its-biggest-donors

 

[ndfanatic78]

Its absolutely mind boggling that any adult with a fully functioning brain could have been alive for the last 5 years and still believe Biden or the democrats are left in any way. I pray for you.

FIFY

 

[ulukinatme]

You conveniently forgot to highlight that they expressed a “low level of confidence” in their conclusion/finding.

Weird seeing people bash the “deep state” then point to the CIA as a source to back their claim.

What a stupid post. You conveniently forgot to read the whole thing, I explicitly mentioned it was with a low level of confidence. Doesn't change the fact that, based on the data available, they believe it came from the lab. It's mentioned that confidence would be higher if other countries had been allowed to investigate, but only the WHO was allowed in. My post is in no way supporting the CIA's findings, it took them 5 years to come to the same conclusion people with common sense had already deduced.

 

[ndfanatic78]

What a stupid post. You conveniently forgot to read the whole thing, I explicitly mentioned it was with a low level of confidence. Doesn't change the fact that, based on the data available, they believe it came from the lab. It's mentioned that confidence would be higher if other countries had been allowed to investigate, but only the WHO was allowed in. My post is in no way supporting the CIA's findings, it took them 5 years to come to the same conclusion people with common sense had already deduced.

Would the US ever let other countries in to investigate on their home soil? Would they let China come in and investigate?

 

[ulukinatme]

Really China controls the WHO?

Here's a list of WHO's top donors:

U.S.: $958 million
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation: $689 million
Gavi, The Vaccine Alliance: $500 million
European Commission: $412 million
World Bank: $268 million
Germany: $324 million
United Kingdom: $215 million
Canada: $141 million
European Investment Bank: $119 million

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-01-28/who-funds-the-world-health-organization-a-list-of-its-biggest-donors

That's great.

Here's some information from the House Oversite Committee that came out during Biden's term. It calls out the WHO for covering for China during the COVID outbreak.

Wenstrup: World Health Organization Bowed to Chinese Interests, Needs Immediate Reform - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

oversight.house.gov

China has had a strong influence on the WHO for awhile. They have members on the board and in positions of power.

 

[ulukinatme]

Would the US ever let other countries in to investigate on their home soil? Would they let China come in and investigate?

WHO wasn't even allowed to conduct an independent investigation, and they often parroted or took at face value whatever the CCP said when it came to the COVID outbreak. "They've got it under control." It was not under control.

 

[ndfanatic78]

That's great.

Here's some information from the House Oversite Committee that came out during Biden's term. It calls out the WHO for covering for China during the COVID outbreak.

Wenstrup: World Health Organization Bowed to Chinese Interests, Needs Immediate Reform - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

oversight.house.gov

China has had a strong influence on the WHO for awhile. They have members on the board and in positions of power.

So does the US and the West. So you are saying in this instance the Biden administration was telling the truth? I’m just trying to figure out when we are supposed to trust Biden and the democrats and the deep state, and we are not? Is it just when they meet your predisposed ideology? Because again does the same article that says covid was leaked from a lab also say that the funding and control of that leaked virus was by US entities?

 

[ndfanatic78]

WHO wasn't even allowed to conduct an independent investigation, and they often parroted or took at face value whatever the CCP said when it came to the COVID outbreak. "They've got it under control." It was not under control.

Um im pretty sure the US would handle it exactly the same way. The US literally has a law that if The Hague ever arrests a US citizens on war crimes the country would invade them, but yea China can’t be trusted but the US can be. Xenophobia alive and well.🤣

 

[Fbolt]

Blaming China and WHO is appropriate. Blame the US too. All had differing agendas and all used the corrupt media to peddle their messages.

 

[Bluto]

It’s absolutely mind boggling that any adult with a fully functioning brain could have been alive for the last 5 years and still believe left is the way. I pray for you.

You come up with that all by yourself?

Bravo!

I’d imagine you have a hard time driving considering you only go right.

I wish you luck nonetheless!

 

[Bluto]

What a stupid post. You conveniently forgot to read the whole thing, I explicitly mentioned it was with a low level of confidence. Doesn't change the fact that, based on the data available, they believe it came from the lab. It's mentioned that confidence would be higher if other countries had been allowed to investigate, but only the WHO was allowed in. My post is in no way supporting the CIA's findings, it took them 5 years to come to the same conclusion people with common sense had already deduced.

Ok sure. You’re an ace virologist. My post touting the CIA findings is in no way supporting the CIA’s findings. Cool!

 

[ulukinatme]

So does the US and the West. So you are saying in this instance the Biden administration was telling the truth? I’m just trying to figure out when we are supposed to trust Biden and the democrats and the deep state, and we are not? Is it just when they meet your predisposed ideology? Because again does the same article that says covid was leaked from a lab also say that the funding and control of that leaked virus was by US entities?

Yeah, not even close. China got the votes in 2017 to put their chosen guy, Tedros, in the driver seat of the WHO. It was through him and other positions that China was able to choose which experts were allowed to take part in the "investigation." Tedros slow played the pandemic because China was afraid of the economic impact all while they started stockpiling medical resources. There was no transparency, and they let China get away with hiding their infection numbers as well as severely downplaying their deaths. If we did have pull in the WHO we may not much longer, Trump just signed an EO to get us out due in part to the WHO's handling of COVID.

As far as the rest of that gobbledygook, I only mentioned that Oversight committee statement coming out during Biden's term simply to lend it extra credence for the liberal crowd, but apparently that did a lot of nothing. Where did it say in that article anything about control of the leaked virus was by US entities? I mean, I've heard this theorized before, but that wasn't in the article to my knowledge. Seems like an odd redirect...but in any case, I don't blame you if you're having trouble deciding when to trust Biden's administration. Many of you were fooled into thinking he was coherent and capable for the last four years, when in fact his handlers were running the country for him and using smoke and mirrors to hide his deficiencies.

Um im pretty sure the US would handle it exactly the same way. The US literally has a law that if The Hague ever arrests a US citizens on war crimes the country would invade them, but yea China can’t be trusted but the US can be. Xenophobia alive and well.🤣

We're not the ones that directly let a pandemic loose on the world, so I don't really give two shits if we would have handled it any differently. You better believe a number of countries would be calling for our head and seeking compensation if we had been the ones to release it. There's probably a number of our allies that would have pressured us to allow an independent investigation as well.

 

[Gladiator]

This Is an interesting thread. So, you guys now believe the china virus was created in a lab?

 

[ulukinatme]

This Is an interesting thread. So, you guys now believe the china virus was created in a lab?

 

[ndfanatic78]

Yeah, not even close. China got the votes in 2017 to put their chosen guy, Tedros, in the driver seat of the WHO. It was through him and other positions that China was able to choose which experts were allowed to take part in the "investigation." Tedros slow played the pandemic because China was afraid of the economic impact all while they started stockpiling medical resources. There was no transparency, and they let China get away with hiding their infection numbers as well as severely downplaying their deaths. If we did have pull in the WHO we may not much longer, Trump just signed an EO to get us out due in part to the WHO's handling of COVID.

As far as the rest of that gobbledygook, I only mentioned that Oversight committee statement coming out during Biden's term simply to lend it extra credence for the liberal crowd, but apparently that did a lot of nothing. Where did it say in that article anything about control of the leaked virus was by US entities? I mean, I've heard this theorized before, but that wasn't in the article to my knowledge. Seems like an odd redirect...but in any case, I don't blame you if you're having trouble deciding when to trust Biden's administration. Many of you were fooled into thinking he was coherent and capable for the last four years, when in fact his handlers were running the country for him and using smoke and mirrors to hide his deficiencies.



We're not the ones that directly let a pandemic loose on the world, so I don't really give two shits if we would have handled it any differently. You better believe a number of countries would be calling for our head and seeking compensation if we had been the ones to release it. There's probably a number of our allies that would have pressured us to allow an independent investigation as well.

No we just funded it and were paying the people who were developing it and it was our gain of function technology. The NIH funded the gain of function work that was going on at the Wuhan institute. You found that cia article you should be able to find the articles on NIH and moving gain of function research out of the US when it was made illegal or you won’t. The fact that anyone would elevate the US in any way over China is pure xenophobia. Take care, I’m done I’ll let others have this discussion.

PS check out the Spanish Flu if you believe the US hasn’t released a pandemic on the rest of the world. Hint it wasn’t from Spain.