COVID-19

[Jiggafini19Deux]

There's no way polio sees measles making a comeback and stands idly by.

 

[GATTACA!]

Should be mandatory viewing for all you anti vax morons.

 

[SportsingHard]

Should be mandatory viewing for all you anti vax morons.

As to anti-vax "morons," I have exactly one knowledgeable friend, as far as I'm aware. He's a scientist working to make vaccines safer. He says both sides of the vax debate are about half-right. He say's vaccines are not as safe as most imagine but not as dangerous as the alarmists make them out to be.

After 50 years of learning about how humanity, political polarity, cultural polarity, and informational polarity work, I find, "They're both half-right," to be the most believable thing ever.

 

[IrishBryan77]

Should be mandatory viewing for all you anti vax morons.

Would it be fair for us to say that the people who choose to take the vaccine are morons as well or is that a double standard?

Simple question

 

[IrishBryan77]

I love the fact that the people who vaccinate call the non vaccinated morons but these are the same people who call Trump supporters Nazis.

Doesn't matter what you do....you will never please a Democrat

 

[IrishBryan77]

And some of you will run to the sheep line for that 58th booster. 👍

Meanwhile. Pure blood here. Let me know when you need some clean blood. 🤣

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Let me know when you need some clean blood. 🤣

Am I trying to pass a drug test or conducting some weird religious ritual?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I have no scientist friends. I have no black friends either. In this, today, I feel like I'm the minority.

 

[IrishBryan77]

Am I trying to pass a drug test or conducting some weird religious ritual?

You definitely don't want to try to pass a drug test. 🤣

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

You definitely don't want to try to pass a drug test. 🤣

The dispensary by the mall confirms this message.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Should be mandatory viewing for all you anti vax morons.

Who’s antivax dick head? See anyone can make inflammatory comments with absolutely no redeeming quality. By the way that’s about the worst way to get someone to look at something you think might actually convince someone of your point.

 

[IrishBryan77]

The dispensary by the mall confirms this message.

Malls are still a thing?

 

[GATTACA!]

I love the fact that the people who vaccinate call the non vaccinated morons but these are the same people who call Trump supporters Nazis.

How are these two thoughts even related? I think moron was the right word.

 

[GATTACA!]

Who’s antivax dick head? See anyone can make inflammatory comments with absolutely no redeeming quality. By the way that’s about the worst way to get someone to look at something you think might actually convince someone of your point.

Seems like I struck a nerve. Must be talking about you eh? Nothing will convince you folks. The idiot Cali lib moms of the 2000s are today’s MAGA.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Malls are still a thing?

Until they are demolished, yes.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Until they are demolished, yes.

I hope not. Where else will I get my Yankee Candle while eating my Auntie Anne’s pretzel dog, surrounded by the vaxed and unvaxed?

 

[GATTACA!]

I hope not. Where else will I get my Yankee Candle while eating my Auntie Anne’s pretzel dog, surrounded by the vaxed and unvaxed?

What an explosion of smells that must be.

 

[sixstar]

Should be mandatory viewing for all you anti vax morons.

GATTACA, I am going to spend the time responding to this video because I want you to learn for your own health. I hope you read this; it is important.

First: it should be obvious that any person claiming that their opponent is wrong 100% of the time is hyperbolic. To discount everything someone else says, all the time, will lead to dismissing valid arguments, as your boy has done here. I disagree with Brett on many things. But he has points that are correct and should be respected as such.

I'll address some of his points here.

• Trump hypocrisy regarding COVID vaccines: agree, Trump claiming OWS success despite the data is hypocritical, and I fully disagree with Trump.
  • However, the lady claimed that RFK is "at odds with the entire medical community" on the "risks outweighing the benefits" of the COVID vaccines. This is fully false. There are large groups of highly qualified groups in the medical community that brought valid RCTs and actual data showing exactly this - especially in younger cohorts.
    • The Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) against hospitalization and death for all age cohorts under 60 years is effectively zero. Search this thread for ARR, and you can see the graphs built by actual data reported by federal health departments from multiple countries.

• Calling someone you disagree with a "piece of shit, anti-vaxxer", shows you are emotionally compromised. If you are willing to fully dismiss everything someone says, you can't be trusted as a reliable source because you are unwilling to listen to the other side
  • GATTACA: do you believe someone can be 100% wrong or 100% right?
  • If no: do you think people that believe this are credible?

• Dave claims that continued mRNA research for vaccines against RSV, HIV, and cancer would've saved a lot of lives. That's conjecture. RSV isn't deadly. HIV is manageable with modern medicine. And there's no medical evidence that mRNA is the magic bullet that solves cancer. Do you have medical research with evidence showing that mRNA vaccines could help reduce cancer?
  • Dave also captions this "saving lives is super gay" - again, emotionally compromised, so you can't trust what he's saying
  • Dave claims later (8:15) that mRNA research is "life saving" without giving any evidence. Emotional claim. Unless he truly believes RSV is deadly and mRNA is the cancer silver bullet.

• Dave criticizes RFK for firing 1000s from CDC and FDA without acknowledging the reason behind it. Have you ever worked in or around federal government? If so, you would understand the waste and inefficiency
  • If you have a problem with RFK firing these staff, list the staff positions that he fired and give reasons behind why they should not have been fired. Be specific.

• BW claims that the shots cause harm due to the LNP delivery vehicle. This is objectively true. Did you know that the US Govt. is funding multiple companies to design safer replacements to LNP? Why would the Govt. spend money on finding a safer alternative to LNP if LNP was already safe?
  • Dave then goes on to say that the "mRNA is the platform genius. what else would be the platform?" The LNP is the platform, the mRNA is the payload.
  • Dave says "to claim that literally any protein would have the same effect (ACE2 binding) ... which is the same as announcing you're a fuckingi idiot with no idea how receptors work."
    • This is a strawman. Brett never said anything of the like.

• Dave says the adverse effects from the shot were "practically negligible", "extremely mild", and "resolved itself", while calling Brett "full of bullshit"
  • This is objectively false again.
  • Moderna's own Phase 2 trials reported a 2.5% SAE (SERIOUS adverse effect) rate vs. 0% SAE from the placebo arm.
  • Per FDA, SAE is characterized by: life-threatening conditions, hospitalization, persistent disability, or something that requires surgical intervention.
  • 2.5% is not "practically negligible" or "extremely mild"
  • If even 10% of the VAERS reports are accurate, the COVID shot still has the highest SAE rate of any "vaccine" in human history, and some employers mandated it.
  • To be clear: other vaccines have been removed from distribution for SAE rates LESS THAN 10% of the COVID shots.

  • In February 2021, Moderna scientists published results from the Phase 2 trial of the company’s mRNA Covid jab in the journal Vaccine.
    In the “Highlights” section at the top of the paper, Moderna’s scientists reported:
    
    
    That statement was untrue. At the time that they published the paper, 7 of the 400 (1.75%) who received the shot had a serious adverse event - including 3 miscarriages. There were zero serious adverse events in the placebo arm.
    
    View attachment 3053379
    
    By the time Moderna stopped collecting safety data from the trial in mid-2021, 14 out of 550 (2.5%) people who received jabs in the trial had suffered serious side effects.
    
    The company never updated the Vaccine paper with any of these reports. On December 30, 2022 the federal clinicaltrials.gov Website quietly posted final safety data from P201, including all the serious adverse event reports.
    
    
    Here's another interesting study that looked at using the Moderna shot in conjunction with the flu vaccine. The study created 3 groups of ~100 people each:
    

    1. Moderna shot + flu shot
    2. flu shot only
    3. Moderna shot only

    0 out of 92 serious adverse events in the flu shot only category.
    5 out of 204 (2.5%) serious adverse events categories 1 and 3 combined (commonality: Moderna shot)
    
    View attachment 3053380

• FDA released its own data in JAN 2025, reporting the Proportional Reporting Ratio (PRR) of all COVID shot side effects for all shot recipients, ages 12-17.
  • Note: CDC Standard Operating Procedure defines a safety signal as PRR > 2.0.
  • Myocarditis PRR was 50, 25x higher than CDC's safety signal.
  • Also the Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) for all ages under 60 was effectively zero (you can find the graphs in this thread if you'd like). And worse, it was lowest for the cohorts that experienced that most side effects. That's unacceptable.
  • Who is more correct on the COVID shot side effects? Professor Dave or FDA?
  • 

• Brett confirmed Piers' question about mRNA reducing general immunity in people. Dave said "that's absolutely not true. That's indefensible gibberish. How the hell would a vaccine damage your general immunity?"
  • Well, ask Pfizer and Moderna.
  • Moderna self-reported auto-immune side effects in their study here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2209367
  • Pfizer self-reported 1,050 vax-related autoimmune disorder side effects in their 3-month vaccine trial. This accounted for 2.5% of all side effects that Pfizer "highly correlated" to vaccine
  • Yet, Dave calls this a "dumb lie"

• Dave claims that "mRNA degrades rapidly, so it's not like it goes on forever"
  • What is the acceptable amount of time mRNA should be in the body before it becomes dangerous? Is there a point where it becomes too long? Peer-reviewed and published studies have already shown that mRNA has been detected in cohorts more than 6 months after injection
  • CDC claimed it would clear "within a few days"
  • Pfizer claimed 48-72 hours
  • Moderna claimed "hours to days"
  • Yet peer reviewed Brogna et al. (2024) reported detections up-to 187 days
  • Brett was right.

I'll stop here for now. If you are interested in listening, I'll provide a full breakdown.


Edit, here are the last vax efficacy data points published by the UK HSA. They stopped posting data after this batch. Can you point me to the vax efficacy? Does this efficacy data provide enough value for the shot with the most dangerous SAE rate in human history?


Cases per 100k - higher in vaxxed cohorts:

Hospitalizations per 100k - higher in many vaxxed cohorts:

Deaths per 100k - higher in most vaxed corhorts:

 

[GATTACA!]

GATTACA, I am going to spend the time responding to this video because I want you to learn for your own health. I hope you read this; it is important.

First: it should be obvious that any person claiming that their opponent is wrong 100% of the time is hyperbolic. To discount everything someone else says, all the time, will lead to dismissing valid arguments, as your boy has done here. I disagree with Brett on many things. But he has points that are correct and should be respected as such.

I'll address some of his points here.

• Trump hypocrisy regarding COVID vaccines: agree, Trump claiming OWS success despite the data is hypocritical, and I fully disagree with Trump.
  • However, the lady claimed that RFK is "at odds with the entire medical community" on the "risks outweighing the benefits" of the COVID vaccines. This is fully false. There are large groups of highly qualified groups in the medical community that brought valid RCTs and actual data showing exactly this - especially in younger cohorts.
    • The Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) against hospitalization and death for all age cohorts under 60 years is effectively zero. Search this thread for ARR, and you can see the graphs built by actual data reported by federal health departments from multiple countries.

• Calling someone you disagree with a "piece of shit, anti-vaxxer", shows you are emotionally compromised. If you are willing to fully dismiss everything someone says, you can't be trusted as a reliable source because you are unwilling to listen to the other side
  • GATTACA: do you believe someone can be 100% wrong or 100% right?
  • If no: do you think people that believe this are credible?

• Dave claims that continued mRNA research for vaccines against RSV, HIV, and cancer would've saved a lot of lives. That's conjecture. RSV isn't deadly. HIV is manageable with modern medicine. And there's no medical evidence that mRNA is the magic bullet that solves cancer. Do you have medical research with evidence showing that mRNA vaccines could help reduce cancer?
  • Dave also captions this "saving lives is super gay" - again, emotionally compromised, so you can't trust what he's saying
  • Dave claims later (8:15) that mRNA research is "life saving" without giving any evidence. Emotional claim. Unless he truly believes RSV is deadly and mRNA is the cancer silver bullet.

• Dave criticizes RFK for firing 1000s from CDC and FDA without acknowledging the reason behind it. Have you ever worked in or around federal government? If so, you would understand the waste and inefficiency
  • If you have a problem with RFK firing these staff, list the staff positions that he fired and give reasons behind why they should not have been fired. Be specific.

• BW claims that the shots cause harm due to the LNP delivery vehicle. This is objectively true. Did you know that the US Govt. is funding multiple companies to design safer replacements to LNP? Why would the Govt. spend money on finding a safer alternative to LNP if LNP was already safe?
  • Dave then goes on to say that the "mRNA is the platform genius. what else would be the platform?" The LNP is the platform, the mRNA is the payload.
  • Dave says "to claim that literally any protein would have the same effect (ACE2 binding) ... which is the same as announcing you're a fuckingi idiot with no idea how receptors work."
    • This is a strawman. Brett never said anything of the like.

• Dave says the adverse effects from the shot were "practically negligible", "extremely mild", and "resolved itself", while calling Brett "full of bullshit"
  • This is objectively false again.
  • Moderna's own Phase 2 trials reported a 2.5% SAE (SERIOUS adverse effect) rate vs. 0% SAE from the placebo arm.
  • Per FDA, SAE is characterized by: life-threatening conditions, hospitalization, persistent disability, or something that requires surgical intervention.
  • 2.5% is not "practically negligible" or "extremely mild"
  • If even 10% of the VAERS reports are accurate, the COVID shot still has the highest SAE rate of any "vaccine" in human history, and some employers mandated it.
  • To be clear: other vaccines have been removed from distribution for SAE rates LESS THAN 10% of the COVID shots.
• FDA released its own data in JAN 2025, reporting the Proportional Reporting Ratio (PRR) of all COVID shot side effects for all shot recipients, ages 12-17.
  • Note: CDC Standard Operating Procedure defines a safety signal as PRR > 2.0.
  • Myocarditis PRR was 50, 25x higher than CDC's safety signal.
  • Also the Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) for all ages under 60 was effectively zero (you can find the graphs in this thread if you'd like). And worse, it was lowest for the cohorts that experienced that most side effects. That's unacceptable.
  • Who is more correct on the COVID shot side effects? Professor Dave or FDA?
  • 

• Brett confirmed Piers' question about mRNA reducing general immunity in people. Dave said "that's absolutely not true. That's indefensible gibberish. How the hell would a vaccine damage your general immunity?"
  • Well, ask Pfizer and Moderna.
  • Moderna self-reported auto-immune side effects in their study here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2209367
  • Pfizer self-reported 1,050 vax-related autoimmune disorder side effects in their 3-month vaccine trial. This accounted for 2.5% of all side effects that Pfizer "highly correlated" to vaccine
  • Yet, Dave calls this a "dumb lie"

• Dave claims that "mRNA degrades rapidly, so it's not like it goes on forever"
  • What is the acceptable amount of time mRNA should be in the body before it becomes dangerous? Is there a point where it becomes too long? Peer-reviewed and published studies have already shown that mRNA has been detected in cohorts more than 6 months after injection
  • CDC claimed it would clear "within a few days"
  • Pfizer claimed 48-72 hours
  • Moderna claimed "hours to days"
  • Yet peer reviewed Brogna et al. (2024) reported detections up-to 187 days
  • Brett was right.

I'll stop here for now. If you are interested in listening, I'll provide a full breakdown.


Edit, here are the last vax efficacy data points published by the UK HSA. They stopped posting data after this batch. Can you point me to the vax efficacy? Does this efficacy data provide enough value for the shot with the most dangerous SAE rate in human history?


Cases per 100k - higher in vaxxed cohorts:

Hospitalizations per 100k - higher in many vaxxed cohorts:

Deaths per 100k - higher in most vaxed corhorts:

Where did I call anyone a piece of shit?

 

[irishnd31]

Where did I call anyone a piece of shit?

Kris Trash thread?

 

[Sea Turtle]

I have it again right now 😞

 

[irishnd31]

I have it again right now 😞

Be well brother.☘️

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I hope not. Where else will I get my Yankee Candle while eating my Auntie Anne’s pretzel dog, surrounded by the vaxed and unvaxed?

Not North Korea is my answer.

 

[sixstar]

Where did I call anyone a piece of shit?

you didn't. Dave called Brett a piece of shit. I was responding to Dave's narration. Now please read the rest of the post.

 

[GATTACA!]

Kris Trash thread?

Fair lmao

 

[IrishWayDomer]

GATTACA, I am going to spend the time responding to this video because I want you to learn for your own health. I hope you read this; it is important.

First: it should be obvious that any person claiming that their opponent is wrong 100% of the time is hyperbolic. To discount everything someone else says, all the time, will lead to dismissing valid arguments, as your boy has done here. I disagree with Brett on many things. But he has points that are correct and should be respected as such.

I'll address some of his points here.

• Trump hypocrisy regarding COVID vaccines: agree, Trump claiming OWS success despite the data is hypocritical, and I fully disagree with Trump.
  • However, the lady claimed that RFK is "at odds with the entire medical community" on the "risks outweighing the benefits" of the COVID vaccines. This is fully false. There are large groups of highly qualified groups in the medical community that brought valid RCTs and actual data showing exactly this - especially in younger cohorts.
    • The Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) against hospitalization and death for all age cohorts under 60 years is effectively zero. Search this thread for ARR, and you can see the graphs built by actual data reported by federal health departments from multiple countries.

• Calling someone you disagree with a "piece of shit, anti-vaxxer", shows you are emotionally compromised. If you are willing to fully dismiss everything someone says, you can't be trusted as a reliable source because you are unwilling to listen to the other side
  • GATTACA: do you believe someone can be 100% wrong or 100% right?
  • If no: do you think people that believe this are credible?

• Dave claims that continued mRNA research for vaccines against RSV, HIV, and cancer would've saved a lot of lives. That's conjecture. RSV isn't deadly. HIV is manageable with modern medicine. And there's no medical evidence that mRNA is the magic bullet that solves cancer. Do you have medical research with evidence showing that mRNA vaccines could help reduce cancer?
  • Dave also captions this "saving lives is super gay" - again, emotionally compromised, so you can't trust what he's saying
  • Dave claims later (8:15) that mRNA research is "life saving" without giving any evidence. Emotional claim. Unless he truly believes RSV is deadly and mRNA is the cancer silver bullet.

• Dave criticizes RFK for firing 1000s from CDC and FDA without acknowledging the reason behind it. Have you ever worked in or around federal government? If so, you would understand the waste and inefficiency
  • If you have a problem with RFK firing these staff, list the staff positions that he fired and give reasons behind why they should not have been fired. Be specific.

• BW claims that the shots cause harm due to the LNP delivery vehicle. This is objectively true. Did you know that the US Govt. is funding multiple companies to design safer replacements to LNP? Why would the Govt. spend money on finding a safer alternative to LNP if LNP was already safe?
  • Dave then goes on to say that the "mRNA is the platform genius. what else would be the platform?" The LNP is the platform, the mRNA is the payload.
  • Dave says "to claim that literally any protein would have the same effect (ACE2 binding) ... which is the same as announcing you're a fuckingi idiot with no idea how receptors work."
    • This is a strawman. Brett never said anything of the like.

• Dave says the adverse effects from the shot were "practically negligible", "extremely mild", and "resolved itself", while calling Brett "full of bullshit"
  • This is objectively false again.
  • Moderna's own Phase 2 trials reported a 2.5% SAE (SERIOUS adverse effect) rate vs. 0% SAE from the placebo arm.
  • Per FDA, SAE is characterized by: life-threatening conditions, hospitalization, persistent disability, or something that requires surgical intervention.
  • 2.5% is not "practically negligible" or "extremely mild"
  • If even 10% of the VAERS reports are accurate, the COVID shot still has the highest SAE rate of any "vaccine" in human history, and some employers mandated it.
  • To be clear: other vaccines have been removed from distribution for SAE rates LESS THAN 10% of the COVID shots.
• FDA released its own data in JAN 2025, reporting the Proportional Reporting Ratio (PRR) of all COVID shot side effects for all shot recipients, ages 12-17.
  • Note: CDC Standard Operating Procedure defines a safety signal as PRR > 2.0.
  • Myocarditis PRR was 50, 25x higher than CDC's safety signal.
  • Also the Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) for all ages under 60 was effectively zero (you can find the graphs in this thread if you'd like). And worse, it was lowest for the cohorts that experienced that most side effects. That's unacceptable.
  • Who is more correct on the COVID shot side effects? Professor Dave or FDA?
  • 

• Brett confirmed Piers' question about mRNA reducing general immunity in people. Dave said "that's absolutely not true. That's indefensible gibberish. How the hell would a vaccine damage your general immunity?"
  • Well, ask Pfizer and Moderna.
  • Moderna self-reported auto-immune side effects in their study here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2209367
  • Pfizer self-reported 1,050 vax-related autoimmune disorder side effects in their 3-month vaccine trial. This accounted for 2.5% of all side effects that Pfizer "highly correlated" to vaccine
  • Yet, Dave calls this a "dumb lie"

• Dave claims that "mRNA degrades rapidly, so it's not like it goes on forever"
  • What is the acceptable amount of time mRNA should be in the body before it becomes dangerous? Is there a point where it becomes too long? Peer-reviewed and published studies have already shown that mRNA has been detected in cohorts more than 6 months after injection
  • CDC claimed it would clear "within a few days"
  • Pfizer claimed 48-72 hours
  • Moderna claimed "hours to days"
  • Yet peer reviewed Brogna et al. (2024) reported detections up-to 187 days
  • Brett was right.

I'll stop here for now. If you are interested in listening, I'll provide a full breakdown.


Edit, here are the last vax efficacy data points published by the UK HSA. They stopped posting data after this batch. Can you point me to the vax efficacy? Does this efficacy data provide enough value for the shot with the most dangerous SAE rate in human history?


Cases per 100k - higher in vaxxed cohorts:

Hospitalizations per 100k - higher in many vaxxed cohorts:

Deaths per 100k - higher in most vaxed corhorts:

Incredible post. Pulling this summary together couldn't have been easy.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Not North Korea is my answer.

I feel like I wouldn’t be welcome there.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

What an explosion of smells that must be.

It’s like a pheromone.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I will worry about my kid and my family and that's all I can do at this point. My sympathy meter is at an all time low.

This is exactly where I'm at. Everyone marinates in their own juice. IDGAF anymore.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I feel like I wouldn’t be welcome there.

Other Dennis Rodman, I don't know of many people who are.