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[JurDocDuLac]

6 media conglomerates throughout the World. 6! The whole world has 6 media outlets to understand the whole world... I feel like I should repeat that....
To put It all In perspective... We Have 7 Continents last I checked... and the world is a globe.....

Circa, can you please tell us the six media outlets?

For example, without getting into Asia and the US, just tell us which six control Europe, Brazil and Canada.

Thanks.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

Yes. anyone ever wonder why this Is happening during an election year and the start of It all was when they knew (December 21'st), around that day... that the Mueller report was going to exonerate the sitting leader of the free world?
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Circa, can you tell us which countries with major C-19 problems are in an election year?

Brazil, India, Russia (kinda), South Africa, Mexico, Peru, Chile, Spain, Iran, UK? Those are the top ten after the US.

Thanks.

 

[Circa]

Circa, can you please tell us the six media outlets?

For example, without getting into Asia and the US, just tell us which six control Europe, Brazil and Canada.

Thanks.

It's 6 corporations that own the media outlets.

 

[Circa]

Circa, can you tell us which countries with major C-19 problems are in an election year?

Brazil, India, Russia (kinda), South Africa, Mexico, Peru, Chile, Spain, Iran, UK? Those are the top ten after the US.

Thanks.

No Clue. But I'm sure you could. 'The leader of the free world' as many call It, Is here in the states. Last I checked google anyway...

 

[JurDocDuLac]

It's 6 corporations that own the media outlets.

What are those six corporations?

I am just asking for information that you must have - because you are the one that said it.

 

[TorontoGold]

How did I know you would contest this. I'm not making It up. The media isn't the news station down the road or the Ted Turner's of the world. The Media Is owned by 6 corporations.
Just look at Disney for example. Look up how many organizations are run by conglomerates like the owners of Comcast and Time warner... The list goes on and on....

I gotta look up the world thing. It might be our country or the North American continent. If I wrong I'll admit It... I don't think I am tho... Hopefully someone on here can clear It up. I'm lazy obviously....

Look it up, let us know the results.

 

[Circa]

Look it up, let us know the results.

Ok, I'll do exactly what you say. Sir

 

[ACamp1900]

Look it up, let us know the results.

Don’t encourage her,...

 

[JurDocDuLac]

...I'm not making It up. The media isn't the news station down the road or the Ted Turner's of the world. The Media Is owned by 6 corporations.
Just look at Disney for example. Look up how many organizations are run by conglomerates like the owners of Comcast and Time warner... The list goes on and on....
I gotta look up the world thing. It might be our country or the North American continent. If I wrong I'll admit It... I don't think I am tho... Hopefully someone on here can clear It up. I'm lazy obviously....

Here´s some help Circa. These are the 30 largest media corporations in the world. You mentioned 2, 3 and 16. At least 17 of them are American.

Please tell us which of these six control all the rest (including the hundreds of smaller media companies).
Hint: None of these have a controlling interest in any of the others.

1. Alphabet
2. The Walt Disney Company
3. Comcast
4. 21st Century Fox
5. Facebook
6. Bertelsmann
7. Viacom
8. CBS Corporation
9. Baidu - China
10. News Corp
11. Advance Publications
12. iHeartMedia
13. Discovery Communication
14. Grupo Globo
15. Yahoo
16. Time Warner
17. Microsoft
18. Asahi Shimbun Company —Japan
19. CCTV — China, Alibaba Group
20. Hearst Corporation
21. JCDecaux — France
22. Axel Springer — Germany
23. Mediaset — Italy, Sapin
24. ITV — UK
25. Fuji Media Holdings — Japan
26. Hubert Burda Meda —Germany
27. Gannett
28. ProSiebenSat.1 — Germany
29. Yomiuru Shimbun Holdings — Japan
30. Time Inc.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

Never mind Circa. You made it up.

Try to stay true to your avatar and be cool about stuff, ok?

 

[Circa]

Never mind Circa. You made it up.

Try to stay true to your avatar and be cool about stuff, ok?

Geez. You really have to go down the wormhole to find all 6.
I'm really not interested in showing you what you can do on your own, but I guess being cool in this day and age is appropriate...


News Corp?... Murdoch's holding company, News Corp, owns The New York Post, The Times of London, and The Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Company, among many other assets. Murdoch, now 88 years old, currently spends his days at the helm of another News Corp property, Fox News. Aug 11, 2019.

Recently Jeff Bought the Washington Post


Viacom is owned by Jeff Bezos...
Walt Disney is owned by AT&T who owns time warner and CNN and hundreds of other news agencies

Time Inc. "In February 2013, Meredith and Time Warner who owns the meredith group held discussions on a possible purchase of Time Inc.; Time Warner at the time elected to spin it out as a separate company instead." Uhmmmm, and the beat goes on and on and on......

I mean, Come ON,... I'm not making this up and I'm also not going to write a dissertation of the conglomerates that own our media. Just look up the ones you posted. It's not hard to connect the dots.

 

[phork]

Geez. You really have to go down the wormhole to find all 6.
I'm really not interested in showing you what you can do on your own, but I guess being cool in this day and age is appropriate...


News Corp?... Murdoch's holding company, News Corp, owns The New York Post, The Times of London, and The Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Company, among many other assets. Murdoch, now 88 years old, currently spends his days at the helm of another News Corp property, Fox News. Aug 11, 2019. Recently Jeff Bought the Washington Post


Viacom is owned by Jeff Bezos...
Walt Disney is owned by AT&T who owns time warner and CNN and hundreds of other news agencies

Time Inc. "In February 2013, Meredith and Time Warner held discussions on a possible purchase of Time Inc.; Time Warner at the time elected to spin it out as a separate company instead." Uhmmmm, and the beat goes on and on and on......

I mean, Come ON,... I'm not making this up and I'm also not going to write a dissertation of the conglomerates that own our media. Just look up the ones you posted. It's not hard to connect the dots.

Yes you are. See list above.

 

[Circa]

Yes you are. See list above.

I already did. Just because you all want to believe whatever the msm tells you and don't want to look up the information, doesn't give you the right to pass your opinion on as a fact. It also doesn't;'t give me the right to say things that are not true without the knowledge to post all the information.
I apologize. I'm 99% on this and I hope you want to know too.

As I stated earlier. It might be 6 media outlets/corporations in the north american continent. But most of that list is connected to one thing or another affiliated with the major brands we know today. and fooled you as well as me through the years.

I think you all are trying to wind me up to be honest, and your doing it to start an argument.

I said It. It doesn't mean it's moses and the 10 commandments. It's what I was told by numerous publications on a variety of different levels.
Keep the horse blinders on... IDC

 

[TorontoGold]

I already did. Just because you all want to believe whatever the msm tells you and don't want to look up the information, doesn't give you the right to pass your opinion on as a fact. It also doesn't;'t give me the right to say things that are not true without the knowledge to post all the information.
I apologize. I'm 99% on this and I hope you want to know too.

As I stated earlier. It might be 6 media outlets/corporations in the north american continent. But most of that list is connected to one thing or another affiliated with the major brands we know today. and fooled you as well as me through the years.

I think you all are trying to wind me up to be honest, and your doing it to start an argument.

I said It. It doesn't mean it's moses and the 10 commandments. It's what I was told by numerous publications on a variety of different levels.
Keep the horse blinders on... IDC

But your claim doesnt even work for North Amercia. Bell/Rogers/Shaw/Quebcor are all seperably owned in Canada. Like if the claim was that there is 6 big media companies that dominate the US media then yeah, you wouldnt have this push back. But, it's not 6 media companies that own the world, it isnt a political or media virus and it isnt the media that's infecting everyone.

 

[Irishize]

It’s a fair question

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[Circa]

But your claim doesnt even work for North Amercia. Bell/Rogers/Shaw/Quebcor are all seperably owned in Canada. Like if the claim was that there is 6 big media companies that dominate the US media then yeah, you wouldnt have this push back. But, it's not 6 media companies that own the world, it isnt a political or media virus and it isnt the media that's infecting everyone.

Ok, as i said It doesn't take a whole lot but you can connect the dots... I'll just start with Bell. It's shareholders are of The Woodbridge Company and the The Woodbridge Company Is owned by Reuters.. which has Its hand in numerous other news agencies around the world.
So Thomson Reuters Is the owner of Bell.

 

[Circa]

Ok, I was wrong. I can admit that. It was 6 in the states. But even that Is abhorrent. I am positive if the media giants around the globe would actually make It public who owns the shares that make up their entities, we would find some form of culpability within each media conglomerate.

"By 2011, 90% of the United States's media was controlled by six media conglomerates: GE/Comcast (NBC, Universal), News Corp (Fox News, Wall Street Journal, New York Post) Disney (ABC, ESPN, Pixar), Viacom (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures), Time Warner (CNN, HBO, Warner Bros.) and CBS (Showtime, NFL.com)."

This was from 2011. The ownership's have changed into smaller groups since then.

I'm done arguing this Toronto. I'll admit i don't feel like looking up all of the ways these companies are connected atm.

 

[Circa]

Here´s some help Circa. These are the 30 largest media corporations in the world. You mentioned 2, 3 and 16. At least 17 of them are American.

Please tell us which of these six control all the rest (including the hundreds of smaller media companies).
Hint: None of these have a controlling interest in any of the others.

1. Alphabet
2. The Walt Disney Company
3. Comcast
4. 21st Century Fox
5. Facebook
6. Bertelsmann
7. Viacom
8. CBS Corporation
9. Baidu - China
10. News Corp
11. Advance Publications
12. iHeartMedia
13. Discovery Communication
14. Grupo Globo
15. Yahoo
16. Time Warner
17. Microsoft
18. Asahi Shimbun Company —Japan
19. CCTV — China, Alibaba Group
20. Hearst Corporation
21. JCDecaux — France
22. Axel Springer — Germany
23. Mediaset — Italy, Sapin
24. ITV — UK
25. Fuji Media Holdings — Japan
26. Hubert Burda Meda —Germany
27. Gannett
28. ProSiebenSat.1 — Germany
29. Yomiuru Shimbun Holdings — Japan
30. Time Inc.

and ITV...."So Rupert Murdoch has finally got his hands on ITV. ... Rupert has his own British TV empire. LWT is part of ITV. And ITV is no longer the monolith it once was."
Bertelsmann: owned by the same people that own Penguin Random House Books which alot of our college curriculum comes from. The Mohn Family from Germany.....

 

[JurDocDuLac]

Relax Circa. It is not personal.

TL;DR
1 - The "Six Corporations" claim comes from a viral meme in 2011 originating from a (now-defunct?) blog about "Insights on Family, Career and Money" and mostly about financial planning for college (frugaldad.com).
2 - It was not true then; it is less true now (more media corporations now).
3 - Other industries are far more concentrated than media; so what?
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Frugaldad.com was a personal blog about personal finance. It is apparently gone now.

In 2012 Business Insider published an info-graphic from the blog, with some criticism, but no analysis. And the Wikipedia page (I think that is where your quote is from?), is really questionable (lots of requests for substantiation).

Apparently, FrugalDad´s source was a 2004 book, The New Media Monopoly by Ben Bagdikian, a well-known left-wing journalist biased against large corporations. The book has no source or footnote given for his claim of media control.

The supposed "Six" from over a decade ago has grown with the emergence or expansion of other corporations (e.g. Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft, Reuters, Bloomberg, iHeartMedia, Twitter, Facebook, etc).

HOWEVER, there is concentrated control over about 50% of United States media by under a dozen corporations and 15 billionaires (that is from my own wasted time educating myself on this).

So you have that going for you.

And anyway, so what?

There is less concentrated control in half the media than there is in the nearly full-market control by fewer corporations in:
Aircraft– four companies dominate almost all airliner manufacturing (Boeing, Airbus, Embraer and Bombardier).
Cars- almost 80% of the market is controlled by 6 companies (GM, Ford, Chrysler Group, Toyota, Nissan and Honda)
Cell Phones- Just two operating systems (iOS and Android) make up over 90% of the market. And five manufacturers make up more than 90% of the world market (Samsung, Huawei, Apple, Xiaomi, BBK Electronics).
Beer- two companies (Anheuser-Busch InBev and MillerCoors) make up 75% of the US market, everybody else is under 2%.

So what?

Do not let some left-wing conspiracy theory mess with ya´ Circa! Relax.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

An industry I used to work in has a very effective PR strategy:
Get any semi-reputable source to print what you wanted people to believe (not an advertisement),
then, based on that, get someone to pick it up,
then another, and so on…

The first step used to be hard, now all you need is an attractive infographic on a blog and a subsequent freelance reporter looking for clicks, and away you go!

 

[Circa]

I am relaxed. Your not picking up, what i'm laying down...

I think the Mark Twain was brought up in this or another thread and my favorite quote seems to be appropriate in every single part of life at every single age group. LOL....

"It's easier to fool most human beings than It is to explain to them that they've been fooled." My own take on Twain's interpretation of the truth........

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[AFisch86]

I suspect more people will die from the flu than from Covid in 2021. I think people will start realizing it’s not smart to put a bunch of elderly in a home where the virus is present. Just a hunch.

 

[Circa]

An industry I used to work in has a very effective PR strategy:
Get any semi-reputable source to print what you wanted people to believe (not an advertisement),
then, based on that, get someone to pick it up,
then another, and so on…

The first step used to be hard, now all you need is an attractive infographic on a blog and a subsequent freelance reporter looking for clicks, and away you go!

So you're saying you might know the CIA?...

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I still want to know about Operation Mockingbird..... Please explain.

Sorry, If this has turned morally and corrupt ways into the wrong thread.

 

[phork]

Ok, I was wrong. I can admit that. It was 6 in the states. But even that Is abhorrent. I am positive if the media giants around the globe would actually make It public who owns the shares that make up their entities, we would find some form of culpability within each media conglomerate.

"By 2011, 90% of the United States's media was controlled by six media conglomerates: GE/Comcast (NBC, Universal), News Corp (Fox News, Wall Street Journal, New York Post) Disney (ABC, ESPN, Pixar), Viacom (MTV, BET, Paramount Pictures), Time Warner (CNN, HBO, Warner Bros.) and CBS (Showtime, NFL.com)."

This was from 2011. The ownership's have changed into smaller groups since then.

I'm done arguing this Toronto. I'll admit i don't feel like looking up all of the ways these companies are connected atm.

But this is what you do constantly. Post shit with shady facts and then when confronted you say "I don't feel like looking it up" or "i'm done arguing".

I have no problem with anything you say, you are entitled to it, but for gods sake back it up.

 

[Circa]

But this is what you do constantly. Post shit with shady facts and then when confronted you say "I don't feel like looking it up" or "i'm done arguing".

I have no problem with anything you say, you are entitled to it, but for gods sake back it up.

Phork. I love ya brother. Stop being lost in translation for you and those closest.
It's not about me. It's an honest conversation that I am not the original source of.
It's embarrassing for me to understand and not have the exact information to share.... Why am i obligated...? (maybe bc I said it, and It's as rational as I can make It)....... and I'm still struggling to make sense of what's going on, without any real worry from those that know... and have the information readily available...?
Just Maybe... It's deeper than we all want It to be!.... .

Peace!

 

[JurDocDuLac]

So you're saying you might know the CIA?...
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LOL!!! Pretty savvy comment.

 

[Circa]

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[Legacy]

South Dakota To Host Hundreds Of Thousands For Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Starting Friday
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...otorcycle-rally-starting-friday/#29869cc31a07

 

[Circa]

South Dakota To Host Hundreds Of Thousands For Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Starting Friday
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...otorcycle-rally-starting-friday/#29869cc31a07

Good!

 

[AllTimeIrish]

From the first page of a Google search:

Here is an infographic:

https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

Another one:

https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/


Here is an article on PBS:

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/democracyondeadline/mediaownership.html

Fortune Magazine has a chart:

https://fortune.com/longform/media-company-ownership-consolidation/

Another one from Forbes on concentration to a few billionaires:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-personal-shopper/2020/07/31/best-sales-right-now/#dfdaacd99865

None of that was hard to find. Whatever you believe, finding references about the claim isn't that hard.