College Football Playoffs

[RubberSoul]

Nd will be in whatever format if they are undefeated (and if they have 1 loss they'll be in a 4 team). I don't really care.

No they won't. If we demanded that with an arrogant attitude, they would laugh in our faces.

 

[stlnd01]

Nd will be in whatever format if they are undefeated (and if they have 1 loss they'll be in a 4 team). I don't really care.

Undefeated, yes. One loss, it really depends on the circumstances. Either way, the apparent death of the "conference champion" requirement is definitely good news for us.

Too bad the on-campus semifinals appear to also be dying. That'd be really cool. And, in terms of hotel room capacity, etc., how is hosting a national semifinal so different than hosting a regular season game? More media, sure, but same general attendance. I think expecting fans to travel to a conference championship game plus two national playoff games all in a month or so is alot. Some of the conference championships struggle to sell tickets as it is, and they're relatively close to home.

 

[NDhoosier]

No they won't. If we demanded that with an arrogant attitude, they would laugh in our faces.

I dont think he was implying that ND would be arrogant about it, but with our schedule, an undefeated team will definitely go to the title game, I dont care how the conferences pan out. As long as ND is able to keep the type of schedule they have now, they dont need to join a conference to play in the big game...

 

[aubeirish]

When it comes to that. We will join a conference. Someone will take us for sure. ND football generates too much money and attention to be left out. Which conference? That's a pretty good question. Brand new conferences might emerge. Who knows. This is going to be interesting.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

We'll have to see how the playoff system works. I think there will be a way for us to maintain independence while also being able to participate in it.

I'd be really angry if we kept this playoff from happening though. The old-timers crying about the Rose Bowl have been bad enough.

 

[ACamp1900]

Such an easy fix when you compare it to what we have now or the propsosal of destroying the whole system for a four team playoff that will of course evolve from there

just play the bowls out as we used to... with every team (at least in the big five bowls, Orange, Cotton, Fiesta, Rose and Sugar) having a chance at the final rankings....

then play the games... very, VERY rarely will you not have a clear one and two at that point, if ever... then let them play it out a week later...

not perfect, but NO SYSTEM is... and this will please to largest amount of peps on all sides...

this keeps the tradition of the bowls and importance of rival games intact... in fact it will make the bowls MUCH more important and interesting than they are now... ALL of the big bowls... who currently cares who wins the Orange Bowl??? It was not always this way... that used to be a MAJOR game every season.... and under this system Auburn, SC, Utah, TCU and ALL of the teams who were "shafted" would have each had their shot...

they (the powers that be) won't do this though and they will wreck the bowls, eventually wreck the reg. season by expanding the thing, and the playoff in the long run won't solve much of anything...


just my two cents.

 

[NDPhilly]

IMO it will eventually be Atleast 6 and possibly 8. With 6 the top 2 seeds would have byes. With 8 you could have the big 6 BCS conferences represented and 2 at large.

 

[ACamp1900]

IMO it will eventually be Atleast 6 and possibly 8. With 6 the top 2 seeds would have byes. With 8 you could have the big 6 BCS conferences represented and 2 at large.

I agree, and this is my biggest fear in this thing honestly... to each their own.

 

[GoldenChild]

Just keep the season the same, and then the Top 8 teams can play in the 4 major bowls, and the 4 winners face off against each other like the Final 4. It adds extra games to the college season which is a risk for injury but it's the easiest fix imo.

 

[ACamp1900]

Just keep the season the same, and then the Top 8 teams can play in the 4 major bowls, and the 4 winners face off against each other like the Final 4. It adds extra games to the college season which is a risk for injury but it's the easiest fix imo.

why even have the bowls at that point though??? It's really just an eight team playoff....

 

[irishtrain]

I dont like or want a playoff unless its 8 teams. But the silver lining is that the pro league south will now not have a bias vote and computer putting its champion in the final game automatically. My thoughts on what happened last year was that these college regents were not going to let that happen again. Either no playoff or an 8 team playoff. The bowls are now officially dead.

 

[GoldenChild]

why even have the bowls at that point though??? It's really just an eight team playoff....

NCAA will have the bowls the same reason we have them now, for money. Unless you're playing in those 4 major bowls the bowls are somewhat useless. WE could still have those useless bowl games like the sun bowl, and the the 4 major bowls will matter much more.

 

[irish1958]

The SEC will NEVER agree to holding the games on campus; they would have to give up a major advantage they have. They are not about to go to, say, Madison, in January to play a football game. (Remember Miami at the Sun Bowl?). In addition when the Northern teams go South in January they are not acclimated to the heat and poop out in the third and fourth quarters.

 

[RDU Irish]

Being pleasantly located within 10 miles of three ACC schools I vote ACC if we join a conference. Not that I am biased or anything.

I have heard that Big Ten would be a big boost for the professors when it comes to shared research grants within the Big Ten. Apparently they blow other conferences out of the water on that front.

I have also heard that ND ties to ACC have really advanced the last few years in a very positive way since Kevin White moved to Duke.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

This whole thing sounds so promising. Finally there will be a playoff in college football.

 

[stlnd01]

NCAA will have the bowls the same reason we have them now, for money. Unless you're playing in those 4 major bowls the bowls are somewhat useless. WE could still have those useless bowl games like the sun bowl, and the the 4 major bowls will matter much more.

Yeah, you could definitely have an eight-team playoff and still have bowls.
Hopefully not as many, but there's still going to be a market for interesting non-conference matchups between 8/9/10-win teams in sunny locales over the holidays. And as long as ESPN's up for televising them, the money will be there.

And if the non-playoff bowls are severed from conference ties and free to take who they want, we'd probably actually benefit quite a bit. I'd think Mr. Swarbrick could work out all kinds of interesting matchups, instead of being left with the Big East's sloppy seconds every time we fall short of 10 wins.

 

[Downinthebend]

I dont like or want a playoff unless its 8 teams. But the silver lining is that the pro league south will now not have a bias vote and computer putting its champion in the final game automatically. My thoughts on what happened last year was that these college regents were not going to let that happen again. Either no playoff or an 8 team playoff. The bowls are now officially dead.

The majority of the computers had OSU #2, it was the human vote that screwed the pooch.

 

[NDPhilly]

My friend who likes UCONN is always asking when ND will join the ACC. He thinks that the only way UCONN gets a invite is if ND were to join. Sounds like we can stay independent for a little bit longer Atleast.

 

[PJWhitfield]

Notre Dame is in a strong position. Even in a mediocre year, N.D. can fill seats. ... At least there's some recognition of current flaws.

 

[stlnd01]

My friend who likes UCONN is always asking when ND will join the ACC. He thinks that the only way UCONN gets a invite is if ND were to join. Sounds like we can stay independent for a little bit longer Atleast.

Somebody actually likes UConn?
I kid. But what difference does it make for UConn if we're in the ACC or not?

 

[NDPhilly]

Somebody actually likes UConn?
I kid. But what difference does it make for UConn if we're in the ACC or not?

ACC presumably wants a even amount of teams. So if ND wants to join, UCONN fans believe they will be asked to.

 

[ACamp1900]

Honestly, I think the matchups in the ACC would be more interesting, year to year, era to era than in any other conference... disregard the current standing of the ACC obviously... think what the programs typically are, location and history...

 

[phgreek]

Honestly, I think the matchups in the ACC would be more interesting, year to year, era to era than in any other conference... disregard the current standing of the ACC obviously... think what the programs typically are, location and history...

I'm here...saw that article posted on here about it, and it caused me to think about a bit. If we gotta go...I like the ACC.

 

[NDhoosier]

Yeah, you could definitely have an eight-team playoff and still have bowls.
Hopefully not as many, but there's still going to be a market for interesting non-conference matchups between 8/9/10-win teams in sunny locales over the holidays. And as long as ESPN's up for televising them, the money will be there.

For example (you can switch the bowls and their rankings around if you want, not the main point)
1st Round 2 weeks after Conf. Championship week
Rose Bowl #1 v #8
Orange Bowl #2 v #7
Sugar Bowl #3 v #6
Fiesta Bowl #4 v #5
2nd Round - Create two more bowls (more money for everyone) 1 week after 1st Round
Winner #1 v Winner #4
Winner #2 v Winner #3
Final Round 2 weeks after 2nd Round
BCS National Title game

Just my opinion if they did an 8 team playoff and wanted to keep the current BCS bowls.

 

[ACamp1900]

how do you use the bowls for the first round of any playoff system and then retain them long term??? really?? that system means Rose Bowl becomes a nice history book...

 

[JughedJones]

I've been saying it since last year when the super-conferences made the talk of ND joining up more than just...talk.

We need to do it sooner than later while we still have some bargaining power.

Plus, having a conference to match up against would make our long term goal of returning to glory easier, we would have a set goal other than plowing through the toughest schedule in the country year after year.

Give me the Big10 or ACC all day long, we could plan for them...be in the division hunt on a regular basis, and watch the recruits, and our prominence snowball.

Bring It!

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Sounds like it is for sure a 4 team playoff. BCS has endorsed it.

 

[NDhoosier]

how do you use the bowls for the first round of any playoff system and then retain them long term??? really?? that system means Rose Bowl becomes a nice history book...

Rose Bowl is already in the process of being put in a history book...

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Rose Bowl is already in the process of being put in a history book...

Right where it belongs.

 

[laservet]

Why are some of you so adamant on joining a Conference, most Notre Dame fans would rather stay independent. That is a huge plus for Notre Dame, especially when it comes to national attention and money... joining a conference would only hinder us.

IIRC, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, etc. get more TV money than ND. The financial benefit of being independent has passed given the big conference TV deals.