College Football Playoff Expansion?

[Rogue219]

We're in a weird spot where ND's admin isn't willing to jump into the CFB arms race fully, but they also aren't willing to give up on competing against those programs yet. So it makes sense that we'd position to get as many play-off runs as possible (even if each individual run is longer odds), since we don't know what the coming decades will bring re congressional investigations, further consolidation into 4 super leagues, etc.

They've haven't been willing to jump in fully for decades. We know that to be the case for ND, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Duke. Only one of those is a footall school, though.

Two things I know for sure:

1. It's not about me. If it was, I wouldn't be here putting my opinions into the Internet, but since that's all I have...it's not about me.
2. The next alingnment shift is coming. It's a matter of when, not if. I guess I'd rather be in ND's shoes than anyone in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

The Big East doesn't play football.

lol

 

[BobbyMac]

They've haven't been willing to jump in fully for decades. We know that to be the case for ND, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Duke. Only one of those is a footall school, though.

Two things I know for sure:

1. It's not about me. If it was, I wouldn't be here putting my opinions into the Internet, but since that's all I have...it's not about me.
2. The next alingnment shift is coming. It's a matter of when, not if. I guess I'd rather be in ND's shoes than anyone in the Big 12 other than Texas and OU.

KU's fine too. They can join the B1G with Mizzou even if Texas doesn't join the B1G. If UT goes B1G, then OU to the SEC I'd imagine. This is all based on the B1G's AAU affiliation rules of course. That could change with the amount of money coming after the SuperCon's happen.

 

[Irishize]

It would’ve been nice for this to have been negotiated before ND scheduled tOSU, TAMU & Alabama since now it makes more since to strategically schedule like the SEC.

ND is in a better spot for maintaining independence b/c the ACC has nothing really to offer them that ND can’t get on their own. They’d have to beat Clemson every year in the ACC CG to be one of the top 4 anyway so joining a conference doesn’t guarantee them squat as long as Dabo is there.

Gus Malzahn has to be pretty happy about the new CFP format. He’s got a clearer path now at UCF than he did at Auburn w/ less stress. The former UCF HC however left that clearer path for the meat grinder that is the SEC. At least he’ll be cashing much bigger paychecks but his first goal needs to be building UT up to at least a top 12 program b/c they have a loooong way to get to before worrying about avoiding a bye and being SEC champs.

 

[Dale]

It would’ve been nice for this to have been negotiated before ND scheduled tOSU, TAMU & Alabama since now it makes more since to strategically schedule like the SEC.

ND is in a better spot for maintaining independence b/c the ACC has nothing really to offer them that ND can’t get on their own. They’d have to beat Clemson every year in the ACC CG to be one of the top 4 anyway so joining a conference doesn’t guarantee them squat as long as Dabo is there.

Gus Malzahn has to be pretty happy about the new CFP format. He’s got a clearer path now at UCF than he did at Auburn w/ less stress. The former UCF HC however left that clearer path for the meat grinder that is the SEC. At least he’ll be cashing much bigger paychecks but his first goal needs to be building UT up to at least a top 12 program b/c they have a loooong way to get to before worrying about avoiding a bye and being SEC champs.

They’ve been scheduling those games in prep for this though. It’ll likely reward “best losses” in terms of just making the playoff. It’s the reason many SEC teams actually do have bigger games in the non con horizon.

 

[BobbyMac]

I had to have missed this somewhere on the site today and it needs it's own thread but...

Rod West was named to he CFP Selection Committee. Wow.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/NFFNetwork/status/1405249746604806156[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

He has the resume to back it up.

West lettered three years at linebacker and tight end at Notre Dame, including the Fighting Irish's 1988 national championship football team. He is a past president of the Allstate Sugar Bowl and a member of the board of directors for the National Football Foundation.

West is currently group president, utility operations for Entergy Corporation, and is responsible for the operational and financial performance of Entergy's five operating companies.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

He has the resume to back it up.

The 40 Year Decision seems to be paying off.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I had to have missed this somewhere on the site today and it needs it's own thread but...

Rod West was named to he CFP Selection Committee. Wow.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/NFFNetwork/status/1405249746604806156[/TWEET]

#4for40

 

[BobbyMac]

Even got the ultra-rare tweet from the OG home office in Le Mans.

You go George! Wouldn't surprise me if Freeman inquires about any remaining eligibility.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/ND_france/status/1405247990340653062[/TWEET]

 

[Rogue219]

KU's fine too. They can join the B1G with Mizzou even if Texas doesn't join the B1G. If UT goes B1G, then OU to the SEC I'd imagine. This is all based on the B1G's AAU affiliation rules of course. That could change with the amount of money coming after the SuperCon's happen.

Why would Mizzou leave the SEC for the B1G, though?

 

[BobbyMac]

Why would Mizzou leave the SEC for the B1G, though?

Proper affiliation amongst piers both athletically and academically and always... more money.

 

[Rogue219]

Proper affiliation amongst piers both athletically and academically and always... more money.

If that's the case, Arkansas should join the Big 12 and maybe the Big 12 can survive. I have honestly never liked that fit at all.

 

[BobbyMac]

If that's the case, Arkansas should join the Big 12 and maybe the Big 12 can survive. I have honestly never liked that fit at all.

There'll be no Big 12 when the Super Conferences form.

But I agree with you on Ark to the Big 12. They will always be a SWC school to me but there's more money and stability in the SEC for them. I mean, Texas WILL leave and the league falls apart. The B1G grabs the AAU schools that make sense and the rest pick at the crumbs.

Iowa State's the real loser. They are an AAU school but why would the B1G want them, they own all the TV's in Iowa already That leaves the PAC or a bump down to the outsiders in the future G5/FCS. Maybe the B1G will kick out Nebraska for losing its AAU membership and Iowa St. now has a much needed travel partner for the PAC?

This is a fascinating topic to me.

 

[Rogue219]

There'll be no Big 12 when the Super Conferences form.

But I agree with you on Ark to the Big 12. They will always be a SWC school to me but there's more money and stability in the SEC for them. I mean, Texas WILL leave and the league falls apart. The B1G grabs the AAU schools that make sense and the rest pick at the crumbs.

Iowa State's the real loser. They are an AAU school but why would the B1G want them, they own all the TV's in Iowa already That leaves the PAC or a bump down to the outsiders in the future G5/FCS. Maybe the B1G will kick out Nebraska for losing its AAU membership and Iowa St. now has a much needed travel partner for the PAC?

This is a fascinating topic to me.

There definitely will not be.

Nebraska has not been a natural fit. Maryland and Rutgers obviously not either. Could the B1G snag Kentucky out of the SEC and maybe pull WVU, UVA and VT as well?

Would make basketball absolutely mental.

 

[Irish#1]

There definitely will not be.

Nebraska has not been a natural fit. Maryland and Rutgers obviously not either. Could the B1G snag Kentucky out of the SEC and maybe pull WVU, UVA and VT as well?

Would make basketball absolutely mental.

Schools have to be research institutions to join the B1G. It's in the bylaws. I agree with Cruz that if this goes to super conferences, then the B1G may need to alter that. I think if Nebraska FB was hitting on more cylinders and more competitive most would say they are a great fit for the B1G. After all, they are in the MW unlike WVU or VT. I don't know if UK is a research institution, but I doubt they would switch. They like being the top dog in BB.

 

[BobbyMac]

There definitely will not be.

Nebraska has not been a natural fit. Maryland and Rutgers obviously not either. Could the B1G snag Kentucky out of the SEC and maybe pull WVU, UVA and VT as well?

Would make basketball absolutely mental.

UK, VT & WV aren't AAU schools so probably not unless the B1G changes their charter.

Schools the B1G could go after are UVa, UNC, Vandy, GT, Mizzou, KU and of course Texas. Pitt, ISU and Duke are qualifiers but they would rather have the bigger school in that's state's market.

 

[Dale]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1405950538164752384?s=21[/TWEET]

Pathetic lol

 

[Dale]

What 12 teams may look like, making the easy favorite championship week assumptions

1) Georgia - SEC Champ
2) Michigan - B1G Champ
3) Cincinnati - G5 Champ AQ
4) Oklahoma State - Big 12 Champ
5) Notre Dame
6) Alabama
7) Ohio State
8) Ole Miss
9) Michigan State
10) Pitt - ACC Champ
11) Utah - Pac 12 Champ
12) BYU

Kind of crazy based of current CFP BYU would get in. It’d have to be either them or a 3 loss Baylor that just lost Big 12 Championship or idle 2 loss OU. You’d have to move Pitt and Utah all the way up if they give conference champs priority. Chaos involves Baylor, Iowa or Houston “stealing” a bid.

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

Is this going to be brought up again after the season? They need to expand it.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

If this season had a 12 team playoff then this last 1/3 of the season would have been a total snooze fest for ND fans.

 

[Dale]

In this format this year, ACC Championship means a ton more, the Pac 12 Championship means more and a lot of these 2-3 loss teams that won or lost this week would have had higher stakes. Egg Bowl W clinched a spot, MSU win over PSU, A&M losing to LSU potentially.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

12 is too many.
8 with the Power 5 automatic bid along with three wildcards.

We should probably join the ACC too.
8 ACC games
Navy
USC
Stanford (keep the California pipeline)
1 rotating Big 10/SEC school

We can keep playing our rivals and not be penalized with a loss.

 

[Dale]

12 is too many.
8 with the Power 5 automatic bid along with three wildcards.

We should probably join the ACC too.
8 ACC games
Navy
USC
Stanford (keep the California pipeline)
1 rotating Big 10/SEC school

We can keep playing our rivals and not be penalized with a loss.

So you want 4 shots at the Playoff over 6?

 

[BobbyMac]

12 is too many.
8 with the Power 5 automatic bid along with three wildcards.

We should probably join the ACC too.
8 ACC games
Navy
USC
Stanford (keep the California pipeline)
1 rotating Big 10/SEC school

We can keep playing our rivals and not be penalized with a loss.

Exactly on the first part

Beat it on the second

 

[NDRock]

12 is too many.
8 with the Power 5 automatic bid along with three wildcards.

We should probably join the ACC too.
8 ACC games
Navy
USC
Stanford (keep the California pipeline)
1 rotating Big 10/SEC school

We can keep playing our rivals and not be penalized with a loss.

Sorry, but that’s a terrible schedule. We would probably be the only team out there playing 11 Power 5 teams with our only “easy” game being Navy. Plus, it leaves only one opening for non traditional opponents. One of the best parts of being Independent is the ability to play schools from all over the country. Right now we have four slots. Next year we play Cal, Ohio State, and BYU. That would never happen if we join the ACC full time.

 

[irishff1014]

What 12 teams may look like, making the easy favorite championship week assumptions

1) Georgia - SEC Champ
2) Michigan - B1G Champ
3) Cincinnati - G5 Champ AQ
4) Oklahoma State - Big 12 Champ
5) Notre Dame
6) Alabama
7) Ohio State
8) Ole Miss
9) Michigan State
10) Pitt - ACC Champ
11) Utah - Pac 12 Champ
12) BYU

Kind of crazy based of current CFP BYU would get in. It’d have to be either them or a 3 loss Baylor that just lost Big 12 Championship or idle 2 loss OU. You’d have to move Pitt and Utah all the way up if they give conference champs priority. Chaos involves Baylor, Iowa or Houston “stealing” a bid.

Utah has 3 losses and shouldn't even be considered.

 

[phork]

This year is why Autobids for champions need a look. Autobid if you are a Power5 and 1 G5 champion ranked atleast in the top10. I am against auto-bids and bye weeks.

 

[rtrn2glory]

This year is why Autobids for champions need a look. Autobid if you are a Power5 and 1 G5 champion ranked atleast in the top10. I am against auto-bids and bye weeks.

I'm definitely against Auto Bids. ACC doesn't deserve a spot at all imo. Just need to be the best 12 or 8 whatever. Unfortunately that puts the human element into effect, but it's necessary.

 

[Dale]

Who do y’all think is more deserving than Pitt and Utah? Because I look at the rankings and I see them and what will be like 3 loss Baylor and Iowa. You’d rather those teams that lose their conference championships get in?