College Athletics Branding - Name Image Likeness Rules

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I am so happy this is happening. The memes and jokes are writing themselves, Kiffin is laughing and Tweeting.

Live look at Kirby Smart:


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I am so happy this is happening. The memes and jokes are writing themselves, Kiffin is laughing and Tweeting.

Live look at Kirby Smart:


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I love every minute of it, and cannot understand why anyone would like the NFL more than college football. It's glorious.
 

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Ohio State believes it needs $13 million in NIL money to keep its football roster together: Doug Lesmerises -- if this is the case, then that's basically the baseline that the FUND has to aspire to.
Starting QB's (or projected starting QB's) are going for $2M according to Ryan Day, and he says premiere OT's and DE's are probably going to need $1M if you want to keep other teams from poaching them. I think the context meant for active players on your roster, rather than your recruiting class.

I guess that means in recruiting, you have to straight up offer a 'star' his going NIL rate as if he is going to 100% pan out and not be a total bust. If you're not willing to do that, you're going to have to be an elite recruiter AND sell the guy on his future earning potential. That seems feasible at a place like ND, where a worldwide following and insane alumni base in the business world is going to create guaranteed opportunities.... but even then, some kids are going to get stolen at the last minute anyway.

It's going to get weird during the early signing period when a guy is committed to a school without a huge NIL deal, with the understanding that he **could** earn up to $2M as a starting QB... but then another school says "we won't wait to see it play out, we'll just pay you now because we're desperate."

We know some of the big dogs will do that to fill last-minute holes in their classes when they get out-bid by other big dogs at the last minute, which in turn will hurt some of the mid-range P5 schools, and will definitely hurt the G5 schools.

I imagine there are going to be some older college coaches retiring earlier than expected, and some others clamoring for a shot in the NFL where the business side of things is straightforward and not so murky.
 

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Just getting to reading this now. I have no words.


Sounds like a deal to me, Notre Dame gets over $3 million just for graduating kids and being tied into the championship series. The sums of money that were already floating around college football are staggering.
 

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SO I need to donate more to fuND? Don't think I have an extra 12 mill or so.
 

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After stewing on it, I'm starting to wonder if that $13M figure is a little light for teams that want to compete for championships moving forward. Day probably knows that, and knows if he throws $13M out there as a figure, his boosters are going to pony up more than that in response.
 

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Sounds like a deal to me, Notre Dame gets over $3 million just for graduating kids and being tied into the championship series. The sums of money that were already floating around college football are staggering.
It’s less about what ND, theoretically, can or cannot do. More so, about the state of college football that we’re getting coaches, essentially, begging boosters to pony up more money for their team. It’s just a sad state of affairs for the sport.
 

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It’s less about what ND, theoretically, can or cannot do. More so, about the state of college football that we’re getting coaches, essentially, publicly begging boosters to pony up more money for their team. It’s just a sad state of affairs for the sport.
That's the real difference.
 

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Just getting to reading this now. I have no words.
I am with you Lucky...NIL is going to ruin this game. You have to wonder if the payroll will increase season by season. Will certain coaches want more pay to deal with keeping a roster in tact?

Nicholaus Iamaleava nor any other high school kid is worth 8 million before enrolling at a university.
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but we should also keep in mind NIL doesn't apply at all to Air Force, Army, and Navy. They can't do anything with it. These guys aren't going to win a natty, but could make the gap even wider for them and that would be a damn shame.
 

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I'm not exactly poor and it sounds like a lot to me. Don't be so pretentious.
No, it’s not. A lot of money at ND mixed with an ND degree is worth far more than $1 mill and a Bama degree. And what the hell. Keon Keeley is a near guaranteed first or second round draft pick as long as he shows up to practice. $1 mill NIL is a joke for a kid like him about to make a ton of money (likely far more than we realize) at ND, get an ND degree, play for an elite defense and get drafted high.

Someone get lucky whatever that disliked this an accountant.
 

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No, it’s not. An ND degree is worth far more than $1 mill and a Bama degree. And what the hell. Keon Keeley is a near guaranteed first or second round draft pick as long as he shows up to practice. $1 mill NIL is a joke for him.
This is such a bad post. While responding to a post saying don't be so pretentious, you respond by being even more pretentious than before. While adding some additional assumptions that are beyond all reason. Woof.
 

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This is such a bad post. While responding to a post saying don't be so pretentious, you respond by being even more pretentious than before. While adding some additional assumptions that are beyond all reason. Woof.
I’m sorry you don’t see the value of a lot of money and a ND degree. Perhaps you should like a less academic institution. Pretentious? This kid will make more money than you and I combined. Gag me.

You sound like the kind of guy that would take $1 million now vs $10 mill in 5 years. For that, I can see why you think the way you do.
 

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No, it’s not. A lot of money at ND mixed with an ND degree is worth far more than $1 mill and a Bama degree. And what the hell. Keon Keeley is a near guaranteed first or second round draft pick as long as he shows up to practice. $1 mill NIL is a joke for a kid like him about to make a ton of money (likely far more than we realize) at ND, get an ND degree, play for an elite defense and get drafted high.

Someone get lucky whatever that disliked this an accountant.
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I’m sorry you don’t see the value of a lot of money and an ND degree. Perhaps you should like a less academic institution. Pretentious? This kid will make more money than you and I combined. Gag me.
You got me. Because I don't like when assholes come across like douchebags on our message board, I should like a less academically inclined institution.

There haven't been many toolish responses like this on here in a long time. Keep up the good work. You're crushing it.
 

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You got me. Because I don't like when assholes come across like douchebags on our message board, I should like a less academically inclined institution.

There haven't been many toolish responses like this on here in a long time. Keep up the good work. You're crushing it.
You’re the one that came out swinging because you didn’t like the truth that ND is Keeley’s best option. Calling someone stating the same hard facts MF preaches at recruits pretentious. Educate yourself before you call names.
 

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You’re the one that came out swinging because you didn’t like the truth that ND is Keeley’s best option. Calling someone stating the same hard facts MF preaches at recruits pretentious. Educate yourself before you call names.
Whiskey routinely shares the value of ND degree with the board. Though when he does it, it comes across differently. You're right it must by my education that's the problem, lol
 

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I’m sorry you don’t see the value of a lot of money and a ND degree. Perhaps you should like a less academic institution. Pretentious? This kid will make more money than you and I combined. Gag me.

You sound like the kind of guy that would take $1 million now vs $10 mill in 5 years. For that, I can see why you think the way you do.
Give Lucky $1 million now and I bet you he could turn it into more than $10 million within 5 years.

Regardless, I think if all things are equal you have a point. But if you could make 1 million at Alabama guaranteed upon signing vs. 0 at ND upon signing, you can see why that may no longer be the best option I hope.
 

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No, it’s not. A lot of money at ND mixed with an ND degree is worth far more than $1 mill and a Bama degree. And what the hell. Keon Keeley is a near guaranteed first or second round draft pick as long as he shows up to practice. $1 mill NIL is a joke for a kid like him about to make a ton of money (likely far more than we realize) at ND, get an ND degree, play for an elite defense and get drafted high.

Someone get lucky whatever that disliked this an accountant.
Hi, CPA here, $1M is absolutely a lot of money. I've advised PGA pro's on tax strategies for US/CAD source winnings. A million dollars is a ton of money for damn near everyone. A good barometer of what is "important" to someone is taking 5% of their pre-tax income as a basis for what's material to them. So, unless you're making $20M, $1M is a lot of money to a lot of people.

I would suggest you should reach out to an accountant to obtain perspective.
 

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Give Lucky $1 million now and I bet you he could turn it into more than $10 million within 5 years.

Regardless, I think if all things are equal you have a point. But if you could make 1 million at Alabama guaranteed upon signing vs. 0 at ND upon signing, you can see why that may no longer be the best option I hope.
But ND isn’t paying these kids chump change.
 
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