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Buster Bluth

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Ok. Let's hope our offense excels as GVSU's offense did under his tenure. It would be wise for Kelly to delegate playcalling duties to him.

Why? You have any insight on what is going on with the coaching staff and/or their abilities to coach?
 

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so what current OSU coaches is Meyer firing to make room for these 2 ND assistants that Kelly had no use for?

or will the NCAA let him continue to have 2 coaching staffs over there at that cesspool a/k/a Columbus Ohio?
 

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The thing that pisses me off is that Hinton and Warinner are flat out screwing Kelly over. Have either of these guys coached with Meyer before or do they just want to go to OSU for the sake of going there?
 

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real question is who do we go after to replace warriner as O line coach? any names out there?
 

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I can't believe nobody else is at all concerned that Cooks has been promoted to Co-DC. I was actually hoping he was going to get kicked off the staff. I thought he did a TERRIBLE job coaching corners this past year, and he was promoted? Then, you have Diaco who in my opinion cost us FSU and Michigan with collapses that were entirely on his play calling - that's TWO clear cut games. These are our two DCs?

I see why everyone is so focused on Meyer. The nasty thing is he has our number and he's going to keep getting us again and and again. (Why he's targeting ND and not Michigan makes no sense to me).

But the real issue is defense. Yuck. I'll wait to see how things shake out completely, but if there's one point where Kelly's management seems in question - this would definitely be it for me.
 

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The thing that pisses me off is that Hinton and Warinner are flat out screwing Kelly over. Have either of these guys coached with Meyer before or do they just want to go to OSU for the sake of going there?

You have to follow along a lot more closely. It's been stated a ton of times that Hinton is very close with Meyer and they've coached together in the past. He's not screwing Kelly over at all. With Warriner, he got passed over for a promotion. He can be making the argument that Kelly screwed HIM over. Nobody is screwing Kelly over. Kelly made his bed - let's hope it works out for him.

I can't believe nobody else is at all concerned that Cooks has been promoted to Co-DC. I was actually hoping he was going to get kicked off the staff. I thought he did a TERRIBLE job coaching corners this past year, and he was promoted? Then, you have Diaco who in my opinion cost us FSU and Michigan with collapses that were entirely on his play calling - that's TWO clear cut games. These are our two DCs?

I see why everyone is so focused on Meyer. The nasty thing is he has our number and he's going to keep getting us again and and again. (Why he's targeting ND and not Michigan makes no sense to me).

But the real issue is defense. Yuck. I'll wait to see how things shake out completely, but if there's one point where Kelly's management seems in question - this would definitely be it for me.

Ummmmmm...wow. Did you just start watching ND football this year? You've been a member here a long time, but did you even paid attention to ANY games during the Weis era? Our defense has improved by leaps and bounds in both talent and production, and you think defense is our problem???

Unreal. You know what, I'm not even going to try and argue. Happy New Year.
 

TerryTate

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I think Kelly hires either a run game or passing game coordinator and let's Martin do the other
 

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I can't believe nobody else is at all concerned that Cooks has been promoted to Co-DC. I was actually hoping he was going to get kicked off the staff. I thought he did a TERRIBLE job coaching corners this past year, and he was promoted? Then, you have Diaco who in my opinion cost us FSU and Michigan with collapses that were entirely on his play calling - that's TWO clear cut games. These are our two DCs?

I see why everyone is so focused on Meyer. The nasty thing is he has our number and he's going to keep getting us again and and again. (Why he's targeting ND and not Michigan makes no sense to me).

But the real issue is defense. Yuck. I'll wait to see how things shake out completely, but if there's one point where Kelly's management seems in question - this would definitely be it for me.



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I can't believe nobody else is at all concerned that Cooks has been promoted to Co-DC. I was actually hoping he was going to get kicked off the staff. I thought he did a TERRIBLE job coaching corners this past year, and he was promoted? Then, you have Diaco who in my opinion cost us FSU and Michigan with collapses that were entirely on his play calling - that's TWO clear cut games. These are our two DCs?

I see why everyone is so focused on Meyer. The nasty thing is he has our number and he's going to keep getting us again and and again. (Why he's targeting ND and not Michigan makes no sense to me).

But the real issue is defense. Yuck. I'll wait to see how things shake out completely, but if there's one point where Kelly's management seems in question - this would definitely be it for me.

He he, for all my criticisms, defense is not one of them.

The CBs did have some coverage lapses and didn't seem to turn around to look for the ball well. But they did a lot of other things really well. They definitely improved in their run support.

The title of co-coordinator doesn't mean much to me. I'm more curious what it means for his responsibility and what effect if any does it have on Diaco (i.e. does it cause friction).
 

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I ran to get popcorn and a coke, and came back to ...this.

BTW, I saw enough to see the gauntlet get thrown down...PM me with the time and date...hehehehe! Vbucks????

Anyway, Lateral move(s)...I get the pension thing...but unless they said they would leave to go to tOSU when they were hired, its still not ehtical in that I'm pretty sure BK said no laterals as part of the conditions for hire.

How is this really all that different than Todd Graham? Burning bridges in Wariner and Hinton's rearview mirrors.

Thanks for the effort guys, but whatever you think justifies the move...did you disclose it before you took the ND job...would you have gotten the job had you disclosed?

I realize ethical standards are gone...but I still have 'em, and this was lacking...and yea I judge people based on their conduct in situations like this...both those guys...no better than any other prostitute with a whistle.

I feel your pain. It's like we just got the tip-only-treatment!
 

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This sucks, can only hope that we don't lose any recruits because of this. That being said, I am sure kelly will be able to fill the positions with quality assistants.
 

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I can't believe nobody else is at all concerned that Cooks has been promoted to Co-DC. I was actually hoping he was going to get kicked off the staff. I thought he did a TERRIBLE job coaching corners this past year, and he was promoted? Then, you have Diaco who in my opinion cost us FSU and Michigan with collapses that were entirely on his play calling - that's TWO clear cut games. These are our two DCs?

I see why everyone is so focused on Meyer. The nasty thing is he has our number and he's going to keep getting us again and and again. (Why he's targeting ND and not Michigan makes no sense to me).

But the real issue is defense. Yuck. I'll wait to see how things shake out completely, but if there's one point where Kelly's management seems in question - this would definitely be it for me.

This post blows my F'n mind.

Cancel your internet please.
 

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Long time reader. 1st post

Any names being thrown around for the openings?

I think for the right money, we could land Big Bird or Oscar the Grouch.....there's my sentiment on the state of coaching changes, its bush league.
 

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nice 3 recruiters gone that helps this team alot SMH. ND is not where is it needs to be and it is obvious we are losing coaches to a school thats on suspension.
 

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Guys, IoweND did everyone a favor. The thread was getting really testy, and what it needed was something so ridiculous that everybody settled down. Standing applause for a brilliant healing moment.
 

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OMG, some of you fear mongers need to go find a new team. We lost three guys, but none was the lynch pin of our O or D. The best recruiter, Alford. We kept Diaco who is doing really good things on D.

As for the guy bashing Cooks. What are you smoking?? The only issue we had was Gray getting beat a few times. Our CB's are great tacklers and Blanton was rock solid all year. Do you remember the days when we would watch USC recievers running wild thru our DB's??

Our coaching staff will be fine!!! Kelly will bring in some solid replacements.
 

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nice 3 recruiters gone that helps this team alot SMH. ND is not where is it needs to be and it is obvious we are losing coaches to a school thats on suspension.

People have been bitching about the recruiting ability of Warinner and Hinton for months. Great coaches, not the best recruiters.
 

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Lol Glad I wasn't the only one who was wondering wtf was up with loweND...

I might do some research see who I would higher. Personally I want Alford back on RBs...
 
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Someone help me on this.....what has Scott Booker ever recruited?? What qualities make him a dynamic recruiter for the University of Notre Dame?
 

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Guys, IoweND did everyone a favor. The thread was getting really testy, and what it needed was something so ridiculous that everybody settled down. Standing applause for a brilliant healing moment.

I'm glad I was able to settle everyone down with my ridiculous post. Although, I'm not so sure what's so ridiculous about it. Apparently everyone here thinks Cooks did a great job. I thought our corners did a much better job two years ago when they were Martin's responsibility. Then this year they stopped looking for the ball when it was in the air. When we played Michigan, Robinson was intentionally throwing the ball by ten yards because it was clear we weren't looking back for the ball.

Clearly, Martin is Kelly's right hand man. I think he was the key to our defensive success. Moving him to offense leaves our defense in some questionable hands IMO. Just think, we've taken an coach with one hell of a resume (Martin) and traded him for a graduate assistant. Yes, our D was good this year, but how will it be without Martin next year?
 

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Someone help me on this.....what has Scott Booker ever recruited?? What qualities make him a dynamic recruiter for the University of Notre Dame?

Nobody here knows. People around the program, though, say he has a dynamic personality. Recruiting is about building relationships and hard work. If you have a dynamic personality, like a Tony Alford, that young kids can relate to, it makes it that much easier to recruit. We know that Brooks is young, and if he will work hard at recruiting (I believe he will - he's seen Alford and Diaco get after it, and young guys looking to prove themselves are generally VERY hungry), then I think he could be a very good recruiter.

But at this point, we can only hope. But hey, Tony Alford needed a chance, Bob Diaco needed a chance. Let's see if this young man takes advantage of his chance...
 

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He's actually not a graduate assisntant. He's an intern. He coached two NFL drafted cornerbacks while he was at Kent State according to his UND profile. And not like low end draft picks. They were 3rd and 4th rounders.

Player Bio: Scott Booker - UND.COM - University of Notre Dame Official Athletic Site

So mister poopy pants, are you happy now? lol

And if Martin was truly the key to our success on D, why the hell would Kelly move him to OC? I'm pretty sure Kelly knows who is doing what the best as a coach. None of us ever see practice on a regular to say we know better.
 
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IoweND just have one question where do you think coaches come from?

Are they born with no flaws, playbook in hand? Or do they start off as Grad. assistants and bust their ***'s to become assistant coaches and coordinators.

Also the drop off in production was mostly due to the fact our opponents out and out picked on Gray it had a lot more to do with his mental state after the UM game then coaching.

Some players just don't come back psychologically when they catch a beating like that. I'd say Blanton had an awesome year same with Smith and Slaughter. You can't hang this on one players performance.
 

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I do too, and how about Alford as recruiting coordinator?

Thanks for making me realize I put an apostrophe in the word "want". lol

I think Alford could be a good recruiting coordinator. He does seem to do that very well. The kids connect well with him.
 

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OMG, some of you fear mongers need to go find a new team. We lost three guys, but none was the lynch pin of our O or D. The best recruiter, Alford. We kept Diaco who is doing really good things on D.

As for the guy bashing Cooks. What are you smoking?? The only issue we had was Gray getting beat a few times. Our CB's are great tacklers and Blanton was rock solid all year. Do you remember the days when we would watch USC recievers running wild thru our DB's??

Our coaching staff will be fine!!! Kelly will bring in some solid replacements.

Jones, while I agree Alford is our best recruiter, I never thought he should have been moved from RB's, and my jury is still out on Diaco. Yes, the D has made improvements, but those improvements have come against inferior competition. UM steamrolled his D the 2nd half, Southern Cal punched them right in the mouth. So instead of Southern Cal WR's running wild, it was their RB's running to the drum of about 250 yds.

To be fair, I don't know if those were Diaco's decisions or if those came from above.

I'll be shocked if BK hires a "solid" replacement.
 

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Reading some stuff that says it's certain Alford will be RB coach and Recruiting Coordinator. That true?
 

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Nobody here knows. People around the program, though, say he has a dynamic personality. Recruiting is about building relationships and hard work. If you have a dynamic personality, like a Tony Alford, that young kids can relate to, it makes it that much easier to recruit. We know that Brooks is young, and if he will work hard at recruiting (I believe he will - he's seen Alford and Diaco get after it, and young guys looking to prove themselves are generally VERY hungry), then I think he could be a very good recruiter.

But at this point, we can only hope. But hey, Tony Alford needed a chance, Bob Diaco needed a chance. Let's see if this young man takes advantage of his chance...

Thanks LA....I didn't even know he was a grad asst. until I heard his name mentioned last week.

I'm hoping these changes work and don't end up an epic fail......
 

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Nobody here knows. People around the program, though, say he has a dynamic personality. Recruiting is about building relationships and hard work. If you have a dynamic personality, like a Tony Alford, that young kids can relate to, it makes it that much easier to recruit. We know that Brooks is young, and if he will work hard at recruiting (I believe he will - he's seen Alford and Diaco get after it, and young guys looking to prove themselves are generally VERY hungry), then I think he could be a very good recruiter.

But at this point, we can only hope. But hey, Tony Alford needed a chance, Bob Diaco needed a chance. Let's see if this young man takes advantage of his chance...

He's from Pittsburgh. While I'm admitedly biased which makes me automatically think this is a good thing, hopefully he can open up some new connections in western PA.

I also agree with NDinLA that his youth could be a good thing.
 
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