Coaching Carousel

[stlnd01]

Is it normal for so many college assistants to get hired by the NFL? Feels like a lot this year. But maybe this is typical?

 

[NDbrbkny]

Aaron henry coming our way

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Is it normal for so many college assistants to get hired by the NFL? Feels like a lot this year. But maybe this is typical?

The trend isn't going away. You have to recruit more than ever before now because of NIL and The Portal. In terms of roster management and strictly coaching football, the NFL is going to be easier. And the whole "for love of the game" argument that certain football fans have used to prop college football over the pro game is totally out of the window now. The "pampered millionaires" could theoretically apply to college players now too.

Then you have the coaches.

 

[IrishBoognish]

The trend isn't going away. You have to recruit more than ever before now because of NIL and The Portal. In terms of roster management and strictly coaching football, the NFL is going to be easier. And the whole "for love of the game" argument that certain football fans have used to prop college football over the pro game is totally out of the window now. The "pampered millionaires" could theoretically apply to college players now too.

Then you have the coaches.

It would be relatively simple to fix. 1 transfer for whatever reason... a freebee. After that you sit a year of your eligibility.

Then impose real salary caps. Im not sure what that would look like, and I am 100% in favor of kids getting paid for their labor. But the first part of this solution would change everything for the better.

 

[Dale]

Is it normal for so many college assistants to get hired by the NFL? Feels like a lot this year. But maybe this is typical?

A lot of been because they are younger coaches who came up in college. Minter in Baltimore and Leonhard as DC in Buffalo.

 

[Dale]

You have to recruit more than ever before now because of NIL and The Portal.

Position coaches are probably recruiting less than they have in decades

 

[stlnd01]

A lot of been because they are younger coaches who came up in college. Minter in Baltimore and Leonhard as DC in Buffalo.

Oh that’s a good point. Different coaching trees than the usual revolving door of NFL assistants.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Position coaches are probably recruiting less than they have in decades

Fair point.

Is it the roster turnover? Money?

 

[Dale]

Illinois hired Montana HC Bobby Hauck

Rutgers hired the South Dakota HC as DC as well

 

[Dale]

Hauck is 61 and just quit because he didn’t want to deal with the portal/NIL. By a Wikipedia look, he has never been a DC. If any real ball knowers say he’s been calling plays as HC all this time I’ll say never mind but otherwise…..interesting to say the least

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

It would be relatively simple to fix. 1 transfer for whatever reason... a freebee. After that you sit a year of your eligibility.

Then impose real salary caps. Im not sure what that would look like, and I am 100% in favor of kids getting paid for their labor. But the first part of this solution would change everything for the better.

Yes, but WHO has the authority to do and police that? The NCAA doesn’t. Not anymore. There is no central authority who can enforce rules.

Not to mention that the SEC BADLY wants there to be self-governing “rules”, so that teams with integrity will follow them because they agreed to, meanwhile…. They won’t at all.

Until and unless ALL schools and conferences cede absolute authority to some central body, in a legally binding way under the threat of severe monetary pain, this isn’t changing. And that’s unlikely to happen.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Fair point.

Is it the roster turnover? Money?

GAs and secondary assistants can recruit a lot more as well.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think Notre Dame is going to offer more roster stability than most programs for assistant coaches, but the trend is not going to go away. Hence it is a coup that they got Coach P out of the NFL to coach DL. Regardless of who is doing the recruiting, I would be aggravated as a coach to spend an entire season with a group in my position room only to have half or more of that group be gone and have to start all over with a new set of guys the following spring. Attrition due to graduation is one thing, but we're dealing with something totally different in this era now when it comes to roster turnover.

It certainly seems like the Haves are going to have an advantage with coaching hires, too. The ecosystem has Notre Dame hiring a Big Ten DC to coach their DBs. The mid tier P4 schools will raid G5 and FCS. G5 will raid FCS. FCS will continue to be a grind for those coaches.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Hauck is 61 and just quit because he didn’t want to deal with the portal/NIL. By a Wikipedia look, he has never been a DC. If any real ball knowers say he’s been calling plays as HC all this time I’ll say never mind but otherwise…..interesting to say the least

His first go around with Montana would've made Art Briles scoff. There was some backlash when they went to rehire him, which they obviously did anyway.

It is rather interesting that he's never actually had the DC title on his Wikipedia page. Also curious to know what his connection is to Bielema and how they got him to come out of retirement after only five days.

This is the furthest east he's ever been. Interesting.

 

[Huntr]

SMU DC headed to the NFL (Cowboys)

Mo Crum in line for the promotion, per Feldman

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Polian returning to coaching

John Carroll made the national semifinals, then lost its head coach, but has a former D-I FBS coach in the athletic department already, so it made perfect sense to Brian Polian to take over the coaching role.

www.d3football.com

Brian Polian back in coaching.

 

[Dale]

Seems odd:

 

[Dale]

So that USC defense had a NFL DL and DBs Coach? Interesting…

 

[Huntr]

So, it was kind of weird when Tyrone Wheatley quit his job as a D2 HC a few days ago.

Now we know why.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Bielema is doing a pretty good job of replacing his outgoing staff members.

 

[JamIrish]

It was really the assistant strength coach the NFL wanted...Landow was a smokescreen

Notre Dame Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach Fred Hale Leaving Notre Dame for the Philadelphia Eagles

BREAKING: Notre Dame assistant strength and conditioning coach Fred Hale is departing South Bend for a role with the Philadelphia Eagles, per John Brice and…

247sports.com

 

[Dale]

Could have been in line for a promotion had Landow left you would think

 

[Dale]

 

[Punky]

Thomas Hammock: 35-47 overall, 23-31 in the MAC, 1-0 vs Notre Dame.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Highly likely this is a head coach saying "peace out" to college football and going the NFL route. Hammock coached the Ravens when McDonald was there. Makes total sense.

 

[MacIrish75]

Thomas Hammock: 35-47 overall, 23-31 in the MAC, 1-0 vs Notre Dame.

Had he not attended a school in the Diocese of FW/SB, we win that game easily. I’ll die believing that.

 

[Huntr]

NIU being in the MWC going forward, notwithstanding

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

MWC is barely a step up.

MAC jobs are nothing more than stepping stone gigs, now more than ever before. They can't shell out money like Sun Belt and AAC schools at the G5 level. Creighton at EMU and Chuck Martin both landed their jobs in 2014. The next longest tenured MAC coach is Moorhead at Akron in 2022, and how long before he goes to a big job as an OC? Even Jason Candle finally bolted Toledo.

Martin makes $1.2m total compensation and he's probably the highest paid MAC head coach.