AKRowdy
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Agree. Personally if that was my father, I’d be having a word with him and tell him to knock it off. Very embarrassing. Feel bad for the young man.
Chris "Belt To" Ash - Defensive Coordinator
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Can you link the tweet?
DomeFieldAdvantage
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I mean, when a part of the problem is half the defense running around not knowing what to do before each snap, maybe playing that many coverages is not advisable.
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Eh, let’s see how it plays out. I would agree that nothing has been fixed.
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I am by no means pleased with this defense, and I have zero difficulty imagining the possibility of Ash getting canned eventually for poor performance. However, I'm cognizant of a number of things:
* The last DC brought in who tasted immediate success was Brian Fucking Van Gorder, and there's always an adjustment to the new process/communication/scheme.
* Our top 3 cover guys have missed tons of time and/or played very gimpy.
* Our current top 3 are two true freshmen and a gimp.
* Our top 2 DEs are still getting back to full speed following ACLs and the third hasn't learned to football yet.
* Our captain DT looks adorable at a hundred-and-nuthin' pounds.
* Our captain LB is constantly reviled for his pass rush/coverage abilities.
* Our captain S has been reviled when he's not been forced to sit out 4 quarters for some bullshit.
* Nearly all of our defensive players have been put on blast directly or indirectly for playing like shit, and absolutely zero players have been routinely cited as playing well.
* There is zero reason to believe any of the assistants, including the hallowed Mike Mickens, are doing their jobs at a competent level.
* We've played easily the toughest schedule in the country, especially from standpoint of opponent OLs, and 2 of 3 QBs have been difficult to gameplan for for differing reasons.
* Ash won a NC as co-DC.
I'm also aware some of the most vile criticism of Ash occurred when:
* ND hadn't surrendered a point all season.
* ND held Miami to 27, even with a gift from our first-time QB.
* Purdue scored on a halfback pass.
* Purdue scored a FG following a fake punt.
* Purdue scored a FG after a one-yard drive.
At some point, all of the Ass/Trash bashing just gets a little stupid.
P.S. ND drives vs. Purdue included:
* 0 plays (kick return TD)
* 1 play (TD)
* 1 play (fumble)
* 1 play (half)
* 3 plays (TD)
* 3 plays (game)
* 4 plays (downs)
* 5 plays (TD)
* 5 plays (TD)
* The last DC brought in who tasted immediate success was Brian Fucking Van Gorder, and there's always an adjustment to the new process/communication/scheme.
* Our top 3 cover guys have missed tons of time and/or played very gimpy.
* Our current top 3 are two true freshmen and a gimp.
* Our top 2 DEs are still getting back to full speed following ACLs and the third hasn't learned to football yet.
* Our captain DT looks adorable at a hundred-and-nuthin' pounds.
* Our captain LB is constantly reviled for his pass rush/coverage abilities.
* Our captain S has been reviled when he's not been forced to sit out 4 quarters for some bullshit.
* Nearly all of our defensive players have been put on blast directly or indirectly for playing like shit, and absolutely zero players have been routinely cited as playing well.
* There is zero reason to believe any of the assistants, including the hallowed Mike Mickens, are doing their jobs at a competent level.
* We've played easily the toughest schedule in the country, especially from standpoint of opponent OLs, and 2 of 3 QBs have been difficult to gameplan for for differing reasons.
* Ash won a NC as co-DC.
I'm also aware some of the most vile criticism of Ash occurred when:
* ND hadn't surrendered a point all season.
* ND held Miami to 27, even with a gift from our first-time QB.
* Purdue scored on a halfback pass.
* Purdue scored a FG following a fake punt.
* Purdue scored a FG after a one-yard drive.
At some point, all of the Ass/Trash bashing just gets a little stupid.
P.S. ND drives vs. Purdue included:
* 0 plays (kick return TD)
* 1 play (TD)
* 1 play (fumble)
* 1 play (half)
* 3 plays (TD)
* 3 plays (game)
* 4 plays (downs)
* 5 plays (TD)
* 5 plays (TD)
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MacIrish75
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I wouldn’t say shit until my son was actually contributing.
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This defense is worse than atrocious
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All good points, but I also think with the talent level and how well the D played the last 2 years, the drop off is significant enough that their are red flags being raised.
Talking heads have brought it up, a current player’s parent is voicing frustration, and even MF has seemingly been frustrated based on some comments / reactions on the field. Leads me and many others to believe what we are seeing truly is a problem and not just an adjustment or due to the level of competition thus far.
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This was crazy to hear. Am I the only one seeing players looking around and throwing their arms in the air like they don’t know what’s happening pre-snap?
Wonder what the locker room pulse is. I’d honestly be annoyed if I were one of the players. In saving Ash MFMF is sort of throwing the players under the bus. I mean, sure, they need to execute, but that doesn’t look to be the main issue.
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To be far though the tackling has been awful and that ia something that should be there and is 100% on the players.
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I’ll give Ass a pass this game. No Moore, Smith and Shuler was out the half. These guys were replaced by freshman.
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Also, in case some missed the in-game memo, ND is playing almost exactly the same amount of man defense as last year despite an inability to cover or get to the QB, but many wanna act like not playing enough man is the problem.
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I would agree with this, but would also pose the following question: If the coaches you are publicly criticizing are supposed to ignore what you tweet, then who are you tweeting for?
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They aren't blitzing as much and when they do its not even close. The fact is the front 7 has massively disappointed. Losing Kiser/Cross/Miles/Watts has been a massive void in leadership and skill.
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Can someone also confirm that he tweeted and then deleted that the position coaches don't have control anymore? I'm seeing that posted on ISD.
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He tweeted something like that, but didn’t seem definitive
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I see it now. If so, confirms what was posted after the A&M game when people were discussing "what is with these whack personnel decisions and how some guys are being used"
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And if so, that’s the biggest issue I have with Freeman so far. If Ash isn’t trusting his staff to make personnel decisions, MF needs to overrule him. There’s something very rotten going on