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The message they are conveying is that this isn't a rebuild, they're going to retool and contend for the Central. This is much easier said than done when you consider they came in fourth place 26 games back of 87 win Minnesota.

The organization even with new leadership is arrogant enough to think they can contend in the Central because it is full of smaller market lower spending teams that are not going to sniff winning mid 90 to 100 wins.

They could be in for a surprise. What the Orioles and Rangers did is not the norm and required some shrewd moves in the winter and at the trade deadline.
 

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The message they are conveying is that this isn't a rebuild, they're going to retool and contend for the Central. This is much easier said than done when you consider they came in fourth place 26 games back of 87 win Minnesota.

The organization even with new leadership is arrogant enough to think they can contend in the Central because it is full of smaller market lower spending teams that are not going to sniff winning mid 90 to 100 wins.

They could be in for a surprise. What the Orioles and Rangers did is not the norm and required some shrewd moves in the winter and at the trade deadline.
No way they can contend unless they go out and get two stud starters
 

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I just want to be able to actually root for this team. They’ve been impossible to cheer for the past two years. Getting rid of Yaz is a good start. I wish Yoan was next.
 

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I just want to be able to actually root for this team. They’ve been impossible to cheer for the past two years. Getting rid of Yaz is a good start. I wish Yoan was next.
They don't have much in trade value, and if they intend on contending, they're going to have to keep the value they have.

TA, Yaz, Moncada...nobody is going to want these guys via trade. They have to dump whatever they can and start fresh. I really have no idea how they expect to win now with the amount of work they need to do and the front office they've put together.
 

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Id love to know what the opening day lineup would be right now, before they even touch free agency. Its kind of dire.
 

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The message they are conveying is that this isn't a rebuild, they're going to retool and contend for the Central. This is much easier said than done when you consider they came in fourth place 26 games back of 87 win Minnesota.

The organization even with new leadership is arrogant enough to think they can contend in the Central because it is full of smaller market lower spending teams that are not going to sniff winning mid 90 to 100 wins.

They could be in for a surprise. What the Orioles and Rangers did is not the norm and required some shrewd moves in the winter and at the trade deadline.
The Orioles are close to challenging the Rays for "best organizational eye for hitting/development". Their farm system is absolutely loaded to the gills with top prospects. I bet 1-2 more get called up and have a chance to be big time hits this next year. I don't know if I've ever seen a team with this many top notch prospects waiting for the call.

Adley Rutschman and Gunnar Henderson the prior year and now Jackson Holliday, Coby Mayo (who has ++power) and Samuel Basallo are waiting for their calls. If the Orioles can bolster their bullpen, they are going to be a problem moving forward.
 

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The Orioles are close to challenging the Rays for "best organizational eye for hitting/development". Their farm system is absolutely loaded to the gills with top prospects. I bet 1-2 more get called up and have a chance to be big time hits this next year. I don't know if I've ever seen a team with this many top notch prospects waiting for the call.

Adley Rutschman and Gunnar Henderson the prior year and now Jackson Holliday, Coby Mayo (who has ++power) and Samuel Basallo are waiting for their calls. If the Orioles can bolster their bullpen, they are going to be a problem moving forward.
Ok.

So not at all like the White Sox. Furthers my point that if these idiots think they can just show up and contend after losing 101 games, they're mistaken.
 

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Ok.

So not at all like the White Sox. Furthers my point that if these idiots think they can just show up and contend after losing 101 games, they're mistaken.
Oh for sure, I was just pointing out the Orioles didn't make some "shrewd moves in winter/trade deadline". They have drastically improved their scouting game and developed their team from the inside. It's really remarkable. I don't know if it can be replicated but it should certainly be the blueprint others try to emulate.
 

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Oh for sure, I was just pointing out the Orioles didn't make some "shrewd moves in winter/trade deadline". They have drastically improved their scouting game and developed their team from the inside. It's really remarkable. I don't know if it can be replicated but it should certainly be the blueprint others try to emulate.
The point I failed to make is The White Sox are not doing a rebuild and they're aiming at a turnaround like the Rangers and Orioles had.

Rangers spent big and went big. The Orioles hired Mike Elias and he brought the Astros analytics with him. They lost 333 games in 2018, 2019 and 2021 combined which is tanking to high heaven like the Epstein Cubs and Luhnow Astros did. Zero chance Jerry Reinsdorf would ever hire a guy like that, but you'd think winning 101 games on a $67M payroll would be exactly the combination Jerry would want. Not so. There is no incentive for the team to be good, and he's had ample opportunity to hire a front office from the likes of Tampa, Houston, Oakland, etc.

It's a lost cause. These idiots think they can take a 101 loss team and win the Central a year later with a few moves. They don't have the intelligence in their front office to pull that off.
 

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Getz confirmed La Russa is involved in the team’s offseason planning as an advisor. Earlier this week, La Russa was part of a White Sox group attending an Arizona Fall League contest featuring the club’s top prospect, shortstop Colson Montgomery.

“That type of experience is invaluable, not only in the team building aspect with so many little pieces that go into a major league club, there is going to be mentoring with some of our minor league coaches and our players as well,” Getz said. “He’s an asset, I’m going to take advantage of him.”

Just incredible.
 

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Sox also lost Jason Bennetti
Local kid that loves the Sox leaves to a division rival. I always knew he'd leave but figured it would be to a national gig. Definitely didn't see him leaving for the Detroit freaking tigers.
 

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Turns out people who have loved this team their entire lives are not going to endure it any longer.

Tony LaRussa and a bunch of people who used to work for the Royals and Angels. That's who is currently in charge. Meet the new guys. Same as the old guys.
 

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Dodgers in discussion about Dylan Cease.

Just a reminder, the narrative in the fall after Kenny and Rick were finally fired was this would not be a rebuild and they intended on competing in the AL Central in 2024.

Trading Dylan Cease flies in the face of that narrative, though I do think it would be the correct thing for them to do at this point in time. Easily their most prized asset that would yield a good return from a team with cash and or a good farm system. Hence, Dodgers.
 

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Jerry trying to make me a cubs fan. I will not follow the team to Nashville or anywhere else.
I’ll just become one of the growing number of Americans who don’t follow a team or baseball in general.
 

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It'd be a good move for the White Sox long term, would need to develop an entirely new fanbase but they'd make a 3rd franchise we could easily visit so I'm all for it!

Sorry Sox fans.
 
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