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Wherefore art thou gonna dump Craig Kimbrel’s deal, Hahnio?
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He's in camp but they are still actively trying to trade him. Lot of characters in that bullpen. Now give me a RF, if not put Vaughn over there, gotta make sure he gets his ABs.
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Yeah, I don't see how he's staying. Not when they just signed Kelly now too.
This team is shaping up to be a team full of red asses that will likely not be taught in Texas and Florida schools. Some dudes with nasty dispositions.
Craig Kimbrel will be with the Chicago White Sox in 2022
Craig Kimbrel's initial stint with the Chicago White Sox did not go very well for him. In spite of trade rumors, it appears he will get another chance.
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A’s free agents: Red Sox sign Jake Diekman, White Sox sign Josh Harrison
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Not worth it to give up Vaughn in my opinion
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I disagree, especially if you’re going to sign Conforto or think you can play Sheets in RF and platoon him with Engel and insert Leury for late innings.
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Not to mention, big Sean is a Sycamore! Always have pulled for him as fellow alum of the Normal School down in Terredise.
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Don't think they're signing Conforto.
Platooning Sheets and Engel is RF is not a good answer.
Leury Garcia is going to play on the White Sox until he is of Satchel Paige/Julio Franco age.
Vaughn is 23 and has he even had 500 Plate Appearances in the Majors?
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What else are they supposed to say publicly other than this?Craig Kimbrel will be with the Chicago White Sox in 2022
Craig Kimbrel's initial stint with the Chicago White Sox did not go very well for him. In spite of trade rumors, it appears he will get another chance.
Jerry needs to sell the team, he is all talk about wanting to win now bla bla. I get they have the 7thest highest payroll, it would be 10th if they got rid of Kimbrel but they need go for it now. You got other teams like the Mets, Dodgers, Padres making moves left and right.
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Jerry is 86. I don’t wish ill on anyone, but him no longer being the controlling owner of the franchise would be in the best interest of winning.
Agree 100% NOT SURE WHO WOULD BUY THE TEAM BUT HOPEFULLY A GUY LIKE MARK CUBAN
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When he let his son run the Bulls, that turned around pretty damn fast.
I checked and they have a lot of money coming off of the books after this year. They are right there but to this point they have only added Harrison at second and a couple of relievers. Still no RF and they're jagging around their ACE?
Come on, man.
I checked and they have a lot of money coming off of the books after this year. They are right there but to this point they have only added Harrison at second and a couple of relievers. Still no RF and they're jagging around their ACE?
Come on, man.
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Jerry has been, and continues to be, the absolute worst.
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And what's crazy about that is he's brought 6 NBA Championships and 1 World Series to the city. The most by a long shot when compared to the Cubs, Blackhawks and Bears.
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I feel you guys,... Moreno talks about winning every year... the entire planet knows if the Halos just sign 2-3 quality arms they're a playoff team... yet every year they seem to not even try to sign anyone with a pulse in the rotation.
Gonna be interested how they spend the money next offseason, You'll have 20 Million off the books with Abreu gone, Keuchel is another 18-20 million, then Kimbrel's 16 Million. I would bring Abreu back but only on a 2-3 year deal for 10-12 million a year.
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I mean, this team's time is now. The chairman is 86, the manager is 77. They are a RF and 2B away from building on last year's team from Division Champ to World Champ.
Reinsdorf, as I understand it, spends most of his time in Arizona and isn't really part of day to day ops with the White Sox. This seems to fall on the front office. They should be going all in right now and they appear to be standing pat. Most of their farm system has now graduated to the 40 man roster, so free agency or bold trades are the way.
I like the Harrison signing. I think he's fine at second base and fits in with this team. They should be going all out for Conforto in RF.
Reinsdorf, as I understand it, spends most of his time in Arizona and isn't really part of day to day ops with the White Sox. This seems to fall on the front office. They should be going all in right now and they appear to be standing pat. Most of their farm system has now graduated to the 40 man roster, so free agency or bold trades are the way.
I like the Harrison signing. I think he's fine at second base and fits in with this team. They should be going all out for Conforto in RF.
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Tell me one really good thing Rick Hahn has done. Hahn is riding the coattails of a lot of things Kenny did and a lot of what the scouting department has done in the Caribbean. Hahn can have some indirect credit for that, I suppose.
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I'm not carrying water for Rick Hahn. I'm asking, in fact, why he isn't doing more right now to make last year's team better.
I am little confused, however, that you're giving Kenny Williams any kind of credit for what we're seeing now. He had zero business being a general manager and there was practically zero sustained success from their 2005 World Series. They were a flash in the pan after 2006.
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I wasn’t very clear, I’m definitely agreeing with you that a lot of the blame for the Sox recent status lies as much on the shoulders of the FO, and not 100% on Jerry. However, I think it’s pretty widely known that Jose, Luis, and Eloy were all guys that Kenny personally scouted and touted after the GM reins were turned over to Rick a decade ago. Kenny and Rick both leave a lot to be desired in terms of their free agent signings and trades.
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If Kenny Williams is running your draft, there is simply not a chance in hell that they take Collins/Burger/Madrigal/Vaughn. I think in that respect Hahn has been getting it right, or at least better, than Williams ever did. Even Burdi looked solid until he blew his arm out.
Eloy was acquired from the Cubs via trade with Cease for Quintana. I think you flat out fleeced Theo on that one.
KW loved toolsy athletes that couldn't get on base or play baseball. Hahn seemingly flipped that script when it came to their drafts and I appreciate the rebuild he oversaw to this point. They got it right in terms of the approach. The Williams led drafts landed you some good players, sure, but there were some colossal busts in there to put it politely. Hahn shed money off the books, sucked to high heaven for high draft picks multiple years and got a division title.
Now you fill your holes anyway you can with high WAR players to get your crypt keeper chairman and manager a World Series. There is no tomorrow.