Chicago Bears address

[KMac151993]

There is GOOD Pizza King and BAD Pizza King.

 

[ulukinatme]

Indiana already has “Indiana style” pizza and it’s called Pizza King.

No way, I refuse to accept that! I thought "Indiana style" was just another term for the authentic Italian one finds at several locations within Little Italy, Fort Wayne? /noitalics /Salvatoris4Life

 

[NEIIrish]

I’ll fight anyone to death that blasphemes the royal feast.

 

[FU BK]

There is GOOD Pizza King and BAD Pizza King.

Yup...for me the ones in Anderson/Muncie are better than the northern ones. Dont know if its still the same, but they used to be Clara's Pizza King

 

[RDU Irish]

Naperville is about as white of a white suburb as you can get. Like Bravo is going to have a show there any minute. 35 miles west of the city, about as Chicagoland as Kenosha, Hammond and all the other IL suburbs.

I went to college in central Illinois. Ask someone where they're from and they say "Chicago." I'd say, "Cool. I'm from Jefferson Park. Where are you from?"

"Downers Grove."

Ok. So not really Chicago.

The Cowboys play in Arlington. The Jets and Giants play in New Jersey. Being in the suburbs or in Indiana really is not anything NFL Earth shattering as far as stadium locations go. The Bears played at Wrigley and then Soldier Field. I'm sure a lot of Boomer fans want them in the city. Doesn't really matter.

I'm not sure I have ever met anyone actually from Chicago. Hell, Joliet, Elgin and Waukegan think they are Chicago. Downers Grove is almost city center!

https://proximityone.com/metros/cbsa16980_tracts.jpg

Maybe put the stadium where the money is for once? Most of the 77 communities of Chicago are shitholes no sane person would choose to live in but everyone wants to highlight the north side as if it is the only true Chicago while only transplant 20/30 year old singles mingle and GTFO the minute it's time to form a household. It's the Naperville youth's claim to be true Chicagoans to rent a place with a dozen other kids in their rite of passage before moving back out to the suburbs ASAFP after they grow up.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'm not sure I have ever met anyone actually from Chicago. Hell, Joliet, Elgin and Waukegan think they are Chicago. Downers Grove is almost city center!

https://proximityone.com/metros/cbsa16980_tracts.jpg

Maybe put the stadium where the money is for once? Most of the 77 communities of Chicago are shitholes no sane person would choose to live in but everyone wants to highlight the north side as if it is the only true Chicago while only transplant 20/30 year old singles mingle and GTFO the minute it's time to form a household. It's the Naperville youth's claim to be true Chicagoans to rent a place with a dozen other kids in their rite of passage before moving back out to the suburbs ASAFP after they grow up.

Fascinating.

 

[Irish#1]

Fascinating.

A very diplomatic response. lol

 

[KMac151993]

Yup...for me the ones in Anderson/Muncie are better than the northern ones. Dont know if its still the same, but they used to be Clara's Pizza King

Yup...you want the ones with the Crown NOT the King. Two brothers started it - then went their separate ways. One took the east side of the state - the other the west. Clara's was to be a different type of eating establishment created by the east brother, most have gone away now.

 

[Wild Bill]

It doesn’t matter to me whether they move to Hammond or stay in Illinois, but it’s a smart decision by Braun as a way to revitalize the area if the Bears agree to move to Hammond.

I'm relatively familiar with the area - my wife's family grew up there and some still live there. The exact stadium location hasn't been finalized, but the general area being discussed is going to be an absolute shit show.

I'm not an expert here but it seems relatively obvious that Lost Marsh Golf Course is the "best" place they can put build the actual stadium in that area, and it just seems like an impossible task. You've got Wolf Lake directly across the street, a smaller lake just north of the golf course, 100+ year old homes on one side/all around, BP's nasty ass industrial infrastructure on another, and wetlands scattered throughout the area.

This seems like a MASSIVE excavation and site preparation project that will cost a ridiculous amount of money. Let's assume they pull it off and build a great stadium within budget - now you still have to figure out how tens of thousands of people get in and out on game days without meaningful public transport or infrastructure designed to handle the volume of traffic. And if you can solve that problem, good luck figuring out where everyone parks. Maybe the plan is to anchor a giant barge on Wolf Lake and use it as a parking lot. My simple mind just can't figure out how this will work.

I'm also skeptical of the revitalization argument. Yes, it will increase revenue, and some businesses will benefit. The stadium will change the area. I just don't know that "revitalize" is the right word. That part of Hammond was built as a residential community for refinery workers - a place where people could earn a high wage, buy a home, and raise a family in a safe close knit community. Those days are gone and stadium alone does nothing to change that.

I'm not sure I have ever met anyone actually from Chicago. Hell, Joliet, Elgin and Waukegan think they are Chicago. Downers Grove is almost city center!

https://proximityone.com/metros/cbsa16980_tracts.jpg

Maybe put the stadium where the money is for once? Most of the 77 communities of Chicago are shitholes no sane person would choose to live in but everyone wants to highlight the north side as if it is the only true Chicago while only transplant 20/30 year old singles mingle and GTFO the minute it's time to form a household. It's the Naperville youth's claim to be true Chicagoans to rent a place with a dozen other kids in their rite of passage before moving back out to the suburbs ASAFP after they grow up.

True South Siders rarely leave their neighborhood, much less the city limits. This time of year, you might spot a few Beverly, Mount Greenwood, or even Bridgeport natives crossing the Indiana border to buy fireworks, pump some cheaper gas, or grab a carton of smokes before immediately returning to God's country. As for North Siders, I'm less familiar with their migration patterns.

They exist. You just have to know where and when to find them.

 

[RDU Irish]

I'm relatively familiar with the area - my wife's family grew up there and some still live there. The exact stadium location hasn't been finalized, but the general area being discussed is going to be an absolute shit show.

I'm not an expert here but it seems relatively obvious that Lost Marsh Golf Course is the "best" place they can put build the actual stadium in that area, and it just seems like an impossible task. You've got Wolf Lake directly across the street, a smaller lake just north of the golf course, 100+ year old homes on one side/all around, BP's nasty ass industrial infrastructure on another, and wetlands scattered throughout the area.

This seems like a MASSIVE excavation and site preparation project that will cost a ridiculous amount of money. Let's assume they pull it off and build a great stadium within budget - now you still have to figure out how tens of thousands of people get in and out on game days without meaningful public transport or infrastructure designed to handle the volume of traffic. And if you can solve that problem, good luck figuring out where everyone parks. Maybe the plan is to anchor a giant barge on Wolf Lake and use it as a parking lot. My simple mind just can't figure out how this will work.

I'm also skeptical of the revitalization argument. Yes, it will increase revenue, and some businesses will benefit. The stadium will change the area. I just don't know that "revitalize" is the right word. That part of Hammond was built as a residential community for refinery workers - a place where people could earn a high wage, buy a home, and raise a family in a safe close knit community. Those days are gone and stadium alone does nothing to change that.



True South Siders rarely leave their neighborhood, much less the city limits. This time of year, you might spot a few Beverly, Mount Greenwood, or even Bridgeport natives crossing the Indiana border to buy fireworks, pump some cheaper gas, or grab a carton of smokes before immediately returning to God's country. As for North Siders, I'm less familiar with their migration patterns.

They exist. You just have to know where and when to find them.

True South Siders sound like Wisconsonites that treat Chicago like a faraway land. I commuted Milwaukee to downtown Chicago every weekend for 2.5 years for my MBA and lived in Arlington Heights out of school for a while so I make my comments as a native Iowan Bears fan, with all due respect.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

True South Siders rarely leave their neighborhood, much less the city limits. This time of year, you might spot a few Beverly, Mount Greenwood, or even Bridgeport natives crossing the Indiana border to buy fireworks, pump some cheaper gas, or grab a carton of smokes before immediately returning to God's country. As for North Siders, I'm less familiar with their migration patterns.

They exist. You just have to know where and when to find them.

I have not lived there in 25 years, but it was about the same minus going to Indiana for fireworks. I grew up in Jefferson Park. Portage Park was just to the south but it may as well been going to Indiana, though. Going to Great America in Gurnee was like the moon.

Of the 77 communities, 7 are considered high risk areas and those are predominantly on the south and west side. Thanks to cable TV and social media, people like my Mimi and Pap Pap in Ohio think every single block is fucking Beirut in 1983 all day every day.

 

[RDU Irish]

I have not lived there in 25 years, but it was about the same minus going to Indiana for fireworks. I grew up in Jefferson Park. Portage Park was just to the south but it may as well been going to Indiana, though. Going to Great America in Gurnee was like the moon.

Of the 77 communities, 7 are considered high risk areas and those are predominantly on the south and west side. Thanks to cable TV and social media, people like my Mimi and Pap Pap in Ohio think every single block is fucking Beirut in 1983 all day every day.

https://proximityone.com/metros/cbsa16980_tracts.jpg

Economically Chicago as a whole looks more like Waukegan or Gary than Lake Forest or Naperville - "high risk" or not.

Smells more similar too but I guess some find ever present pot/piss potpourri smells endearing. I am not enamored with any cities so don't take it personally.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm relatively familiar with the area - my wife's family grew up there and some still live there. The exact stadium location hasn't been finalized, but the general area being discussed is going to be an absolute shit show.

I'm not an expert here but it seems relatively obvious that Lost Marsh Golf Course is the "best" place they can put build the actual stadium in that area, and it just seems like an impossible task. You've got Wolf Lake directly across the street, a smaller lake just north of the golf course, 100+ year old homes on one side/all around, BP's nasty ass industrial infrastructure on another, and wetlands scattered throughout the area.

This seems like a MASSIVE excavation and site preparation project that will cost a ridiculous amount of money. Let's assume they pull it off and build a great stadium within budget - now you still have to figure out how tens of thousands of people get in and out on game days without meaningful public transport or infrastructure designed to handle the volume of traffic. And if you can solve that problem, good luck figuring out where everyone parks. Maybe the plan is to anchor a giant barge on Wolf Lake and use it as a parking lot. My simple mind just can't figure out how this will work.

I'm also skeptical of the revitalization argument. Yes, it will increase revenue, and some businesses will benefit. The stadium will change the area. I just don't know that "revitalize" is the right word. That part of Hammond was built as a residential community for refinery workers - a place where people could earn a high wage, buy a home, and raise a family in a safe close knit community. Those days are gone and stadium alone does nothing to change that.



True South Siders rarely leave their neighborhood, much less the city limits. This time of year, you might spot a few Beverly, Mount Greenwood, or even Bridgeport natives crossing the Indiana border to buy fireworks, pump some cheaper gas, or grab a carton of smokes before immediately returning to God's country. As for North Siders, I'm less familiar with their migration patterns.

They exist. You just have to know where and when to find them.

I don't know how they will pull this off, if the Bears decide to move, but I would hope there have been and are still ongoing discussions on what they need to do to build the stadium. So far, Indiana hasn't released any impact or feasibility studies.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I don't know how they will pull this off, if the Bears decide to move, but I would hope there have been and are still ongoing discussions on what they need to do to build the stadium. So far, Indiana hasn't released any impact or feasibility studies.

I'll be older than you are now when this thing gets built regardless of where they build it.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Yup...you want the ones with the Crown NOT the King. Two brothers started it - then went their separate ways. One took the east side of the state - the other the west. Clara's was to be a different type of eating establishment created by the east brother, most have gone away now.

Still a Clara's in FW and it's great. Ring the King and everything.

 

[tko]

 

[KMac151993]

This may be a stupid question - why can they not relocate for a couple years and just totally gut Solider Field and start over?

 

[Pete]

My guess is because the Bears don’t own Soldier Field. So they lose out on the concert revenue etc so they want to build so that they get all that cash stream.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Soldier Field is owned by the Chicago Park District. The Bears have a lease there. Should they eventually leave, it will actually benefit Soldier Field and the Park District because they will have more calendar dates to have events. The Bears play their home games there during the NFL season and there is a clause that there cannot be an event there within a certain amount of days prior to a Bears game.

The Bears are not a primary revenue generator for Soldier Field. Soccer, concerts and parking make more money overall than the Bears do for the stadium and park district.

They probably won't have to break the lease because at the rate they are going, this new stadium won't be built until I have grandchildren.

 

[DomeFieldAdvantage]

This may be a stupid question - why can they not relocate for a couple years and just totally gut Solider Field and start over?

Money.

1) They want to build a stadium so they can sell the naming rights and all the other sponsorship stuff around the stadium

2) So they can keep all the revenue from all the other events at the stadium

3) Maybe most importantly and overlooked, if they build a new stadium they can sell ridiculously expensive personal seat licenses, which wouldn't be the case with a renovation because they already sold PSLs for Soldier Field

I say that last one is maybe most important because a lot has been made about how the Bears would pay for a new stadium, but much of the money the "Bears" would use to pay for it was actually money from the PSLs and stadium naming rights.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Money.

1) They want to build a stadium so they can sell the naming rights and all the other sponsorship stuff around the stadium

2) So they can keep all the revenue from all the other events at the stadium

3) Maybe most importantly and overlooked, if they build a new stadium they can sell ridiculously expensive personal seat licenses, which wouldn't be the case with a renovation because they already sold PSLs for Soldier Field

I say that last one is maybe most important because a lot has been made about how the Bears would pay for a new stadium, but much of the money the "Bears" would use to pay for it was actually money from the PSLs and stadium naming rights.

This is all spot on. I think there is also the element of having the oldest and smallest capacity stadium in the League. They're at 62,500 capacity and the new Bills stadium seats 63,000. That number cannot be by accident on Buffalo's part.

You build a domed stadium you can host a Super Bowl, a Final Four, College football championship games (Big Ten in particular), concerts and festivals, etc. You have control. You get the revenue. You see what SoFi and Allegiant are. That's what you want to be.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Gov. JB Pritzker 'would be happy' to call special session to keep Bears in Illinois

On Tuesday, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker said he's open to calling a special session to try and keep the Bears in Illinois.

www.fox32chicago.com

This is the Bears doing the same song and dance from 1995. "We're going to move to Gary, Indiana." Anyone old enough to remember "Planet Park"?

Deputy Governor Andy Manar also stated that nobody from the Bears has laid eyes on either of the bills put forth by the state senate and house. They have had no part in the process. The Bears are also paying lobbyists and former legislators to help guide them in this process but they were not even present during the legislative session. So, we ask again: what is Kevin Warren doing?

The Manar interview: Patrick Pfingsten Chats with Former State Senator and Current Deputy Governor Andy Manar - PM Springfield with Patrick Pfingsten

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

NFL insider gives Bears fans glimmer of hope regarding new stadium drama

One NFL insider believes the Chicago Bears' chances of staying in Illinois might be better than fans expected despite the latest reports.

beargoggleson.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Illinois Largely Defiant Even as Bears Consider Second Indiana Site

Even supporters of the Arlington Heights Bears Stadium say there won't be an Illinois summer legislative session, but also scoff at the Hammond stadium plan.

www.si.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

It feels like we're watching Jigga lose his mind in real time over the Bears stadium. You okay man? Jokes aside, I'm not even a Bears fan and it still pisses me off.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

McLaughlin is the state rep in the district east of me. He just barely stayed in office in 2024 by 47 votes and he's very vulnerable again this year. I'm somewhat surprised he's throwing his hat into the ring on the Bears situation.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

It feels like we're watching Jigga lose his mind in real time over the Bears stadium. You okay man? Jokes aside, I'm not even a Bears fan and it still pisses me off.

Just posting information. Appreciate your concern, but I'm not losing my mind over this. It's actually quite entertaining. Funny, really.

I'm not pissed off about it whatsoever. They're going to be on TV playing in 2026 and beyond. Where they play is of no consequence to me. We've seen this story before with the Bears in the 1990s. It's giving people the opportunity to spew the political narrative of their choice in a midterm year. It's engaging in real time and we'll certainly look back on it when all is said and done down the line once it is all sorted.

Two things seem clear to me about this: Kevin Warren should not be employed by the Bears and the NFL has long outgrown the McCaskeys. They should consider selling the team.

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Just posting information. Appreciate your concern, but I'm not losing my mind over this. It's actually quite entertaining. Funny, really.

I'm not pissed off about it whatsoever. They're going to be on TV playing in 2026 and beyond. Where they play is of no consequence to me. We've seen this story before with the Bears in the 1990s. It's giving people the opportunity to spew the political narrative of their choice in a midterm year. It's engaging in real time and we'll certainly look back on it when all is said and done down the line once it is all sorted.

Two things seem clear to me about this: Kevin Warren should not be employed by the Bears and the NFL has long outgrown the McCaskeys. They should consider selling the team.

I don't live in Chicago and don't really seek this info out, so thanks for keeping us outsiders in the loop. I've been to a couple of games at Soldier Field and the thought of them not playing there anymore does piss me off.

 

[pumpdog20]

OK... I'm now convinced they aren't going to the region. I hope Hammond got some small kickback for playing along at least.