BVG Fired

[NorthDakota]

I'm all for Aranda. Hopefully BK spent part of today looking at potential replacements

I'm sure he has been looking around the past few weeks.

I want anyone associated with LSU. I don't care if it's a grad assistant. Find a spot for him here. I'll take anyone from Utah as well. Head Coach from NDSU is welcome as well.

 

[Redbar]

I really, really don't know if you can judge Lyght looking at what he has been asked to do.

I do think you can judge Booker, but honestly our return game has gotten WAY better and our coverage units are generally fine. I just don't think he gets it done as a TE coach.

You are right in a way, it is hard to judge Coach Lyght because he hasn't coached very long, certainly not at a major college football level. But one thing I do know is his best player Cole Luke seems to have checked out mentally. Regardless of scheme, a position coach has to motivate his guys to give maximum effort. I am not seeing his guys "playing for him" at all. I am not saying he needs to go, I am saying given his experience as a coach, the hire was a bit of an experiment. Right now I would be very concerned that maybe this one looked better on paper.

 

[NorthDakota]

I second that our SC program sucks.

Guy at North Dakota State makes janitor money.

 

[bobbyok1]

To answer the question in the thread title . . .

When we give up 45pts to a crappy Duke team and drop to 1-3 after a 45-42 loss.

Yes! He's gone! And once again . . . just sayin

 

[Irish_I_HadHair]

I hope the Les Miles for DC are jokes.

He's not a Defensive coach. Never has been.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

That's the same thing. You want to argue semantics on "quoting" or something?





It does not get more clear than that.



You're so ignorant it's almost not worth responding to you. Truly, I don't know how someone in your shoes... someone who knows literally nothing but sits at home thinking they know everything... even exists.

News flash: the Sullivans sent other kids to ND after Declan. They're supportive of the University, and the University is supportive of them. I have a relative who has worked with Barry Sullivan on Horizons for Youth stuff, and not once in any context have they bashed ND for anything.

Your opinion is bullshit.



As someone who works in construction and has actually used scissor lifts, boom lifts, etc. here are a couple inconvenient facts for you:
1) There was a direct supervisor to Declan Sullivan (NOT Brian Kelly) that is responsible for them.
2) Additionally, they're responsible for ensuring that they're a "competent person" that knows how and when to operate the machinery in a safe manner. Declan Sullivan should have been trained such that he was individually capable of determining when it was unsafe to use the machinery and avoiding said situation. If he had raised a concern and was "ordered" or "overruled" to do something unsafe, that is a completely different situation. There is no evidence of that happening.



What really bothers me about people like you is that my in laws are very good friends with the Seebergs. My brother in law was one of her best friends, cousin-in-law (is that a thing?) taught her in school. So it really bothers me when people like you try to leverage her death into something to benefit their football opinion. You should be concerned about the failure of St. Mary's mental health professionals, but you're talking about her vis a vis Brian Kelly.

The idea that the "university threw her under the bus" is a lie. Even if it was true, Brian Kelly has literally zero input there and he SHOULDN'T have any. So your premise is, like all of your other points, total bullshit.

If you believe the reason she took her life was because of Brian Kelly you are beyond help. If you think it's because of Notre Dame you're simply misinformed. And that's all I'm going to say on it.

Post of the year!!!! reps to Lax as much as I can

Hear, hear!

 

[Irish Insanity]

I hope the Les Miles for DC are jokes.

He's not a Defensive coach. Never has been.

My Hire Les now posts are for HC.....

 

[JT_IRISH]

September 25th. vBucks???

 

[philipm31]

Came down from jack it seems.

Jack had the stones to hire Kelly, so I am more than willing to believe he told Kelly that BVG was gone and it was not Kelly's decision.

Just goes to show that Kelly's seat just got a LOT warmer.

Thank god we have an AD with some stones.

 

[philipm31]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Recruits react to Brian VanGorder's firing, holding steady in their commitments. <a href="https://t.co/v402lkz2aM">https://t.co/v402lkz2aM</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/780120378173558784">September 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top CB target 4-star Thomas Graham on how BVG being gone affects his recruitment w/ ND: "It does nothing"</p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/780128172520140801">September 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Good to know our DC was having such a big impact on recruiting.

One has to wonder if they even knew ND had an Defensive Coordinator before they got to ND.

 

[stlnd01]

One has to wonder if they even knew ND had an Defensive Coordinator before they got to ND.

Yeah. I can't imagine it has any impact for most of them. He wasn't the reason anyone was coming here. The fact that BVG recruited so little always rubbed me wrong (not that Diaco was that big on it either).

 

[stlnd01]

Do you guys think they hire someone before bowl season or after? Personally, I prefer before so he can build relationships with recruits.

The sooner the better. For practical reasons they probably can't make a permanent hire until after the regular season is over. But it'd be great to, say, announce Aranda the day after we beat USC and have him hitting the road out west that week.

 

[Southside Sully]

I'll say it again. Reach out to Bo Pellini!

 

[Classic Irish]

I'll say it again. Reach out to Bo Pellini!

Given Pelini's anger issues I can't imagine that ND would hire Pelini. If people complained about Kelly's tantrums (and I, for one, did not), they'd really be taken aback by Pelini's antics. No question that the guy is a hot-head, but the guy can coach.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wish him and his family well, but fuck this guy. He's taken this defense to the worst levels we've seen, under BK.

Diaco would be a dream right now.

 

[NDbrbkny]

Given Pelini's anger issues I can't imagine that ND would hire Pelini. If people complained about Kelly's tantrums (and I, for one, did not), they'd really be taken aback by Pelini's antics. No question that the guy is a hot-head, but the guy can coach.

it be an angry contest between kelly and pelini

 

[dmort]

I wouldnt worry about the commits because BVG was not the guy that recruited them.He was not a good recruiter.

 

[BabyIrish]

Article on ESPN says Vangorder made 1 mil his first season. Now I don't feel as bad about his firing!

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I have difficulty seeing how ND could land someone on Aranda's level. He doesn't need ND, lots of programs will be offering him large sums of cash, and ND's going to be pretty suspect in the stability and continuity department.

 

[Luckylucci]

LOL... at least one of those isn't happening. I will let you guess which one.

I have difficulty seeing how ND could land someone on Aranda's level. He doesn't need ND, lots of programs will be offering him large sums of cash, and ND's going to be pretty suspect in the stability and continuity department.

Sorry but stupid statement. ND has record level television viewers. Multiple years now for some games. Anyone would be nuts to think there is a bigger stage.

 

[IrishLax]

I have difficulty seeing how ND could land someone on Aranda's level. He doesn't need ND, lots of programs will be offering him large sums of cash, and ND's going to be pretty suspect in the stability and continuity department.

There aren't that many places offering 1.2 mil/year to a DC. Maybe 20 in the entire country, most already have someone. I agree he's more likely to end up sticking at LSU or ending up somewhere else, but I think it's a good thing that we're getting an early jump on the search.

I'm not sure why more people aren't talking about Mike Tressel.

 

[Classic Irish]

There aren't that many places offering 1.2 mil/year to a DC. Maybe 20 in the entire country, most already have someone. I agree he's more likely to end up sticking at LSU or ending up somewhere else, but I think it's a good thing that we're getting an early jump on the search.

I'm not sure why more people aren't talking about Mike Tressel.

Lax,

You mentioned Derek Mason a few weeks ago as a potential candidate, and I really like your suggestion. I'll be curious to see if he'll be back next season at Vandy.

 

[drayer54]

I felt bad reading the article about Weiss a few weeks ago saying ND treats people like shit on the way out. Seeing people bash this guy kind of validates the theory to me.

I wish him well. He needed gone long ago, but I wish him well.

 

[IrishLax]

Notre Dame football: Brian VanGorder fired as defensive coordinator | SI.com

Talks about the talent deficiencies Kelly & Co. are to blame for.

 

[arrowryan]

There aren't that many places offering 1.2 mil/year to a DC. Maybe 20 in the entire country, most already have someone. I agree he's more likely to end up sticking at LSU or ending up somewhere else, but I think it's a good thing that we're getting an early jump on the search.

I'm not sure why more people aren't talking about Mike Tressel.

Make a case for Tressell

 

[IrishLax]

Make a case for Tressell

1. He'd be easy to get as it's a promotion and we'd pay him double what he's currently making.
2. He knows how to run the Dantonio/Narduzzi Cover 3 scheme, which is proven to work in college and be very teachable.
3. He has gotten the job done at MSU as co-DC since Narduzzi left.
4. He's allegedly a good coach with Midwest roots.

 

[Luckylucci]

I felt bad reading the article about Weiss a few weeks ago saying ND treats people like shit on the way out. Seeing people bash this guy kind of validates the theory to me.

I wish him well. He needed gone long ago, but I wish him well.

Don't completely suck at your job and people wouldn't feel this way. We are not talkin about average, we are talking about sucking hard balls. If he were average, this wouldn't be happening. I don't get pats on my back for bad work in my profession, not sure anyone does. Difference is, I don't get that paycheck and he does. So, own it, own that responsibility and be a good coach. He's not, he sucks hard ass.

 

[arrowryan]

1. He'd be easy to get as it's a promotion and we'd pay him double what he's currently making.
2. He knows how to run the Dantonio/Narduzzi Cover 3 scheme, which is proven to work in college and be very teachable.
3. He has gotten the job done at MSU as co-DC since Narduzzi left.
4. He's allegedly a good coach with Midwest roots.

Whats his recruiting skills like?

 

[JTLA]

When will Greg Hudson be fired?

When will Greg Hudson be fired?

Just thought I'd hang this here, since he can't possibly be the solution.

 

[Bluto]

1. He'd be easy to get as it's a promotion and we'd pay him double what he's currently making.
2. He knows how to run the Dantonio/Narduzzi Cover 3 scheme, which is proven to work in college and be very teachable.
3. He has gotten the job done at MSU as co-DC since Narduzzi left.
4. He's allegedly a good coach with Midwest roots.

Linebackers (his position group at MSU) have consistently played way above their rankings as well.