Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

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Was BK a great coach? No. Was he a very good coach? Yes

I appreciate what he did for the program. If he would have left ND in a professional manner instead of lying, he'd have a lot more respect from ND fans.
He did the same thing to Cincinnati when he came to ND. We shouldn’t be surprised and we weren’t feeling bad for the Bearcats. It’s the nature of the beast.
 

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Instead of googling “LSU gymnastics coaches”, just google “LSU gymnast Livvy.”

just google Olivia Dunne and enjoy 😂
She's cute and you can't beat that body, but I'm already sick of her. The CONSTANT head back & looking over her shoulder "I'm so cute" posing that's this decade's duck lips (everybody does it in nearly every selfie) has gotten really old. I'd bet you a million bucks that being her boyfriend would be a nightmare of narcissism, drama, demands, and ego. The sex wouldn't make up for all of it for very long.
 
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I appreciate how this thread has turned into utter perversion.

A buncha no-shot middle-aged men fantasizing about hit-it then quit-it photos of college gymnasts.

Reeks of BK’s final legacy. 🤣
 

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I appreciate how this thread has turned into utter perversion.

A buncha no-shot middle-aged men fantasizing about hit-it then quit-it photos of college gymnasts.

Reeks of BK’s final legacy. 🤣

I was talking about the Real estate agent
 

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BKs final legacy is Natty at LSU or a huge buyout after 2 or 3 more years. BK has a great situation at LSU w plenty of resources and unencumbered NIL.

He maybe a selfish dick but he made a move to a program better positioned to chase a Natty.
 
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BKs final legacy is Natty at LSU or a huge buyout after 2 or 3 more years. BK has a great situation at LSU w plenty of resources and unencumbered NIL.

He maybe a selfish dick but he made a move to a program better positioned to chase a Natty.
You gotta stop working for free, drunk. BK can certainly afford you on his payroll as a staunch defender and publicist.
 

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You gotta stop working for free, drunk. BK can certainly afford you on his payroll as a staunch defender and publicist.
I am not a staunch defender. I think BK is an excellent HC but I don’t think he will win a Natty. I just don’t hate him like a spurned bitch like many here. There are good reasons LSU paid up for BK and reasons all too clear now why he left ND.
 
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I am not a staunch defender. I think BK is an excellent HC but I don’t think he will win a Natty. I just don’t hate him like a spurned bitch like many here. There are good reasons LSU paid up for BK and reasons all too clear now why he left ND.
A sense of humor about it all can go a long way for all parties involved.
 

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To further fuel your hatred for Kelly, I thought you all would like to take a glance at this article from The Advocate:

After a season filled with disastrous special teams mistakes, Brian Kelly watched the tape. He went through every game and looked at LSU’s errors, trying to examine them schematically to identify root problems and possible corrections. Kelly’s takeaway wasn’t that LSU needed to overhaul the schemes. Those looked sound.




“If you really look at it and you take the numbers and you put them up against everybody else, we put the ball on the ground,” Kelly said Tuesday in an interview with The Advocate. “That was the difference.”




He then promoted defensive analyst John Jancek to special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach. The decision marked a philosophical shift in how LSU handles special teams. Schematically, not much will change. What does is how LSU teaches the concepts.



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Although Jancek has the title, Kelly said LSU would use a “decentralized operation” with increased involvement from assistant coaches and input from special teams analyst Lester Erb. It helped that analysts can now coach in practice under new NCAA rules.




In the new approach, offensive line coach Brad Davis and offensive coordinator/tight ends coach Mike Denbrock will handle blocking for extra points and field goals. Defensive coordinator Matt House will help with kickoffs. Cornerbacks coach Robert Steeples and safeties coach Kerry Cooks will look at the punt teams. Then Jancek has more time to oversee the Jack linebackers.




Kelly said the decision had more to do with moving Polian into a role that helps oversee the roster than taking him off special teams. “That change was not precipitated by where we ranked as much as what I needed him to do for this program,” Kelly said. “Or I would've fired him. That would've been easy.”




As general manager, Polian will focus on recruiting, NIL, the transfer portal and daily operations within the program. Kelly described the position as one overseeing the personnel department run by Will Redmond and the recruiting office led by JR Belton. Polian is responsible for making sure they collaborate.




Kelly considered an outside hire for the new special teams coach. He reportedly interviewed former Ole Miss special teams coordinator Marty Biagi, who left this week for the same position at Notre Dame. Ultimately though, Kelly didn’t want “the one voice special teams coordinator” who would install different schemes.




And with so many defensive players on special teams, he’ll work with some in multiple capacities. Jancek also has time to develop the outside linebackers. Special teams won't be his only focus. In this model, LSU delegated the responsibilities. “I could overthink this and bring somebody else in, or I could really look at what are the most important pieces," Kelly said. "That is a sound and fundamental scheme, and then have somebody that has experience being in front of a room and leading a group.”
 

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Obviously, the Polian change had to be made. Truthfully, it should have been made after the FSU game or Tennessee game.

Nonetheless, I'm not too sure this is a good decision by Kelly. In fact, I hate it. To me, this evokes too many cooks in the kitchen. Wouldn't it be easier to just hire one qualified special teams coach and hold him accountable? But what the hell do I know about running a major college football program...
 

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Although Jancek has the title, Kelly said LSU would use a “decentralized operation” with increased involvement from assistant coaches and input from special teams analyst Lester Erb.
This was the situation when he was at ND. Multiple coaches were working with specials teams. Scott Booker had the title. Scott Booker took the venom.

I can't speak for Cincinnati and prior to that, but based on the ND and LSU sample size, BK special teams have left something to be desired.
 

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Obviously, the Polian change had to be made. Truthfully, it should have been made after the FSU game or Tennessee game.

Nonetheless, I'm not too sure this is a good decision by Kelly. In fact, I hate it. To me, this evokes too many cooks in the kitchen. Wouldn't it be easier to just hire one qualified special teams coach and hold him accountable? But what the hell do I know about running a major college football program...
That was my sense as well. But then what do I care. I’m a Notre Dame fan not an LSU fan. Whatever.
 

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To further fuel your hatred for Kelly, I thought you all would like to take a glance at this article from The Advocate:
Sounds like you’re an LSU fan…welcome! I know LSU fans assume all ND fans hate BK but that’s not the case. I’m indifferent towards him. He revived ND (w/ some occasional backsliding…I wanted him fired after 2016) after the embarrassing debacles given to us by Davie/Willingham/Weis.
 

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Thanks. Indeed, I am a LSU fan; however, I've always greatly respected and admired Notre Dame. In fact, I'll be attending my first game in South Bend this fall - the Gameday for Visitors and First Timers thread that is stickied to the top is how I found this board.

I've found Notre Dame fans, generally, to be all over the board on Kelly - and that's understandable. I wouldn't expect a fanbase to be giddy over a coach that willfully leaves. I despise Nick Saban, yet I appreciate what he did for LSU after a decade of despair with Curley Hallman and Gerry DiNardo.

Honestly, I agree with Bryan Driskell's (from Irish Breakdown's) takes the most. Sure, he rubbed some LSU fans the wrong way, and some of our local talk show personalities made some very compelling counter arguments against his talking points. In essence, other than a one-off season (2016 - which is odd due to 7 or 8 games that easily could have gone in Notre Dame's favor), I think Kelly took Notre Dame as far as he could get them, and that shows in his record against elite opponents, in bowl games, and in the CFB Playoff. However, to play devil's advocate, how much of that is on Kelly or Notre Dame (i.e., the administration, the academic and transfer restrictions, talent discrepancies, and such) remains to be seen. Kelly would point fingers at the aforementioned. Notre Dame fans, boosters, alum, its administration would likewise point fingers at Kelly. In reality, it's likely somewhere in the middle.

I do believe that Kelly is a very, very solid coach. He's a B+ / A- guy. I also believe he provides a level of stability. Will that be enough to win a NC at LSU? Who knows...there's lots of things about him that I'm not too keen on (quarterback, quarterback development, general offensive philosophy), but he did exceed everyone's expectations in year 1. There's room for optimism, but I believe that in the end of the day, he was chiefly brought in to right the ship and rectify the plethora of problems that had been stewing under 15+ years of inadequate and/or incompetent coaching under Miles and Orgeron. He's turning 62 this year. Basically, keep the recruiting rankings high (top 10), stack the cupboard, remedy any underlying "cultural issues" and leave the program in a great spot for the next head coach.
 

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Thanks. Indeed, I am a LSU fan; however, I've always greatly respected and admired Notre Dame. In fact, I'll be attending my first game in South Bend this fall - the Gameday for Visitors and First Timers thread that is stickied to the top is how I found this board.

I've found Notre Dame fans, generally, to be all over the board on Kelly - and that's understandable. I wouldn't expect a fanbase to be giddy over a coach that willfully leaves. I despise Nick Saban, yet I appreciate what he did for LSU after a decade of despair with Curley Hallman and Gerry DiNardo.

Honestly, I agree with Bryan Driskell's (from Irish Breakdown's) takes the most. Sure, he rubbed some LSU fans the wrong way, and some of our local talk show personalities made some very compelling counter arguments against his talking points. In essence, other than a one-off season (2016 - which is odd due to 7 or 8 games that easily could have gone in Notre Dame's favor), I think Kelly took Notre Dame as far as he could get them, and that shows in his record against elite opponents, in bowl games, and in the CFB Playoff. However, to play devil's advocate, how much of that is on Kelly or Notre Dame (i.e., the administration, the academic and transfer restrictions, talent discrepancies, and such) remains to be seen. Kelly would point fingers at the aforementioned. Notre Dame fans, boosters, alum, its administration would likewise point fingers at Kelly. In reality, it's likely somewhere in the middle.

I do believe that Kelly is a very, very solid coach. He's a B+ / A- guy. I also believe he provides a level of stability. Will that be enough to win a NC at LSU? Who knows...there's lots of things about him that I'm not too keen on (quarterback, quarterback development, general offensive philosophy), but he did exceed everyone's expectations in year 1. There's room for optimism, but I believe that in the end of the day, he was chiefly brought in to right the ship and rectify the plethora of problems that had been stewing under 15+ years of inadequate and/or incompetent coaching under Miles and Orgeron. He's turning 62 this year. Basically, keep the recruiting rankings high (top 10), stack the cupboard, remedy any underlying "cultural issues" and leave the program in a great spot for the next head coach.
Take Driskell with a grain of salt. He occasionally has some good things to say, but he likes to hear himself talk and he has a rather high opinion of himself and said opinion.
 

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Thanks. Indeed, I am a LSU fan; however, I've always greatly respected and admired Notre Dame. In fact, I'll be attending my first game in South Bend this fall - the Gameday for Visitors and First Timers thread that is stickied to the top is how I found this board.

I've found Notre Dame fans, generally, to be all over the board on Kelly - and that's understandable. I wouldn't expect a fanbase to be giddy over a coach that willfully leaves. I despise Nick Saban, yet I appreciate what he did for LSU after a decade of despair with Curley Hallman and Gerry DiNardo.

Honestly, I agree with Bryan Driskell's (from Irish Breakdown's) takes the most. Sure, he rubbed some LSU fans the wrong way, and some of our local talk show personalities made some very compelling counter arguments against his talking points. In essence, other than a one-off season (2016 - which is odd due to 7 or 8 games that easily could have gone in Notre Dame's favor), I think Kelly took Notre Dame as far as he could get them, and that shows in his record against elite opponents, in bowl games, and in the CFB Playoff. However, to play devil's advocate, how much of that is on Kelly or Notre Dame (i.e., the administration, the academic and transfer restrictions, talent discrepancies, and such) remains to be seen. Kelly would point fingers at the aforementioned. Notre Dame fans, boosters, alum, its administration would likewise point fingers at Kelly. In reality, it's likely somewhere in the middle.

I do believe that Kelly is a very, very solid coach. He's a B+ / A- guy. I also believe he provides a level of stability. Will that be enough to win a NC at LSU? Who knows...there's lots of things about him that I'm not too keen on (quarterback, quarterback development, general offensive philosophy), but he did exceed everyone's expectations in year 1. There's room for optimism, but I believe that in the end of the day, he was chiefly brought in to right the ship and rectify the plethora of problems that had been stewing under 15+ years of inadequate and/or incompetent coaching under Miles and Orgeron. He's turning 62 this year. Basically, keep the recruiting rankings high (top 10), stack the cupboard, remedy any underlying "cultural issues" and leave the program in a great spot for the next head coach.
I think Driskell’s view is that ND should be solidly in National Title hunt and that Kelly was holding them back and that Kelly was an excuse maker and issues like academic hurdles, facilities and now NIL are not real issues if you have a positive based recruiter which he didn’t think Kelly was.

I like Freeman but I think the issues are real. I see now the Admin is not as committed to Nattys as the major 5 or 6 other programs. Going 9-4, having the first recruiting class slide down to #7 and then to have Admin balk at buyout of qualified OC only to elevate internally are not great looks towards the notion that ND is truly locked in on Nattys. We all love Freeman but he had no HC experience so Admin has taken a chance on him as well and I am sure his comp is lower than what BK was making.
 

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Take Driskell with a grain of salt. He occasionally has some good things to say, but he likes to hear himself talk and he has a rather high opinion of himself and said opinion.
Yeah, I can absolutely pick up that he's a blowhard sometimes. He played and coached at some Division III university and he acts like he's the second coming of Rockne or Saban.

One of our local radio personalities, Matt Mascona, is the same (pompous, arrogant). Mascona actually had an interesting counter to Driskell's comments. I'll give him credit, Mascona is aware of and has been exposed to Notre Dame (his older brother went there for undergrad and grad school and Matt spent his first-year at Holy Cross with the intentions of transferring into Notre Dame). I believe it can easily be found on YouTube - 104.5 ESPN Baton Rouge typically uploads all of their content there.

Driskell, for whatever its worth, really appears to have a bone to pick with Kelly, but whatever. He does genuinely come off as a good guy though.
 
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I think Driskell’s view is that ND should be solidly in National Title hunt and that Kelly was holding them back and that Kelly was an excuse maker and issues like academic hurdles, facilities and now NIL are not real issues if you have a positive based recruiter which he didn’t think Kelly was.

I like Freeman but I think the issues are real. I see now the Admin is not as committed to Nattys as the major 5 or 6 other programs. Going 9-4, having the first recruiting class slide down to #7 and then to have Admin balk at buyout of qualified OC only to elevate internally are not great looks towards the notion that ND is truly locked in on Nattys. We all love Freeman but he had no HC experience so Admin has taken a chance on him as well and I am sure his comp is lower than what BK was making.

I really feel for Freeman with the Ludwig debacle. In this day and age, you've got to secure and pay top quality coordinators. Period. Saban has freaking former NFL head coaches and respected college head coaches trotting out there as coordinators and analysts. It's just a part of the game no, and you can't go cheap.

Freeman was about to secure a homerun hire, and then, for whatever reason....it fell through. I'm sure the Hartman-camp wasn't too pleased.

That said, should Freeman ultimately not work out, the incoming coach should have a stacked roster.
 

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I look at listening to Driskell like you're in a lecture.

You have to try and wade through a lot of bullshit to sift out a nugget or two of knowledge.
 
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