Breaking down ND/OU

[PANDFAN]

staggering stat

staggering stat

Only 18 times has OU hosted a game matching top-10 teams, and 14 of those were conference affairs. Often Nebraska, with an occasional Texas Tech, Missouri and OSU tossed in.

Only four times has OU hosted a nonconference game when both teams were ranked in the AP top 10:

1986: No. 1 OU beat No. 4 UCLA 38-3.

1983: No. 6 Ohio State beat No. 2 OU 24-14.

1966: No. 1 Notre Dame at No. 10 OU 38-0.

1953: No. 1 Notre Dame beat No. 6 OU 28-21.



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[OUMallen]

Only 18 times has OU hosted a game matching top-10 teams, and 14 of those were conference affairs. Often Nebraska, with an occasional Texas Tech, Missouri and OSU tossed in.

Only four times has OU hosted a nonconference game when both teams were ranked in the AP top 10:

1986: No. 1 OU beat No. 4 UCLA 38-3.

1983: No. 6 Ohio State beat No. 2 OU 24-14.

1966: No. 1 Notre Dame at No. 10 OU 38-0.

1953: No. 1 Notre Dame beat No. 6 OU 28-21.



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Dadgum Domers.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Our OL is not "very good". But they're serviceable.

I like to think playing Texas' defense would have given us a good taste for what ND would bring defensively. USUALLY, the UT defense has elite talent.

But this year, they are pretty soft, especially up the middle. LB corps is way lamer than what we're used to seeing out of them.

ND's front 7 will be a unique challenge for us this season.

How are y'all's special teams this year? Given the defensive discipline you have seemed to develop, I assume the STs are solid as well?

Please read the entire post before quoting me then correcting my post. My post is not directed to the Irish offensive line.

If you cannot read, we will assign a reader for you.

Thanks for your support....


GO IRISH!!!!!!

Diz

 

[OUMallen]

Please read the entire post before quoting me then correcting my post. My post is not directed to the Irish offensive line.

If you cannot read, we will assign a reader for you.

Thanks for your support....


GO IRISH!!!!!!

Diz

But you were responding to the...and other people agreed with my response...and you were definitely responding to something about the OU OL...and now... ??????

You guys with your fancy-fast northern talk and nasally vowels and reverse psych-a-ma-ology. I just cain't keep up.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

On defense, we MUST limit yards after catch. Jones is going to get his completions, we just have to make sure the receivers aren't running around and scampering for huge gains.

On offense, I would love to see some new wrinkles we haven't seen yet. I think Kelly has kept some things hidden just for these big games. Saturday is the day to play most, if not all, of your cards. I would love to see more Hendricks packages. As others have said, run, run, run!!! Our RB's needs to take care of the football and grind out some long drives.

Limit penalties. The BYU game had a number of stupid, needless penalties and I am sure Kelly has addressed that with the whole team. We will have to fight for yardage, we can't afford to be giving it away on dumb penalties.

 

[Dizzyphil]

But you were responding to the...and other people agreed with my response...and you were definitely responding to something about the OU OL...and now... ??????

You guys with your fancy-fast northern talk and nasally vowels and reverse psych-a-ma-ology. I just cain't keep up.

My English is perfectly fine Sir. And I do not live in the northern hemisphere of the great United States.

And I was not responding to the OU OL. It was the Kansas St. OL.

Again, if you need help reading the posts, please ask and I will employ someone to help you read.

:hug:

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!

Diz

 

[Dizzyphil]

Young and very good.


GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!

Diz

I was speaking of K-State's O-line versus OU's defensive front. It was in response to what he and I were talking about. Thanks.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!

Diz

Oh ok. Sorry

No worries my man. I see where you are coming from though. My true, honest opinion is this game is close up to the fourth quarter and I believe the team that has the ball last wins. I think the Irish and OU actually pair real good together. Win or lose, I expect to see a close, solid, and great game.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!

Diz

OUMallen, this was the order of the posts within the thread.

Thanks again and I dislike the twang in southerners as well, unless I am receiving a hummer from a southern belle while in town. Then she can twang all she wants.....

GO IRISH!!!!!!

Diz

 

[woolybug25]

I know this is a big game for us this weekend, but do we really need this many threads discussing the exact same thing?

I'm getting dizzy (ha) trying to keep up with all of the conversations between threads.

 

[Dizzyphil]

I know this is a big game for us this weekend, but do we really need this many threads discussing the exact same thing?

I'm getting dizzy (ha) trying to keep up with all of the conversations between threads.

Mods can close this one. It seems to have too much verbatim and no-nonsense.... I think....

You know those with the power can shut it down.

You know me Dude, from the looks of it, obviously I'm not a golfer.....


GO IRISH!!!!!!!

Diz

 

[NDdomer2]

My English is perfectly fine Sir. And I do not live in the northern hemisphere of the great United States.

And I was not responding to the OU OL. It was the Kansas St. OL.

Again, if you need help reading the posts, please ask and I will employ someone to help you read.

:hug:

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!

Diz

 

[Dizzyphil]

You look quite the normal there in your self-portrait!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!

Diz

 

[Irish#1]

Step one: Survive the first 10 minutes. The place will be rockin and to get behind early would not help at all. This is a challenge considering their hurry up.
Step two: run, run and run some more. Stack the box? Who cares. BYU did it and we ran it up their a**.

Step three: Score TD's. We will not win this game settling for FG's. If we get in the red zone, finish the drive.

Step four: Allow EG to throw on the run. That is when he is at his best.

Finally, limit penalties. BYU game was sloppy and the stanford game wasn't much better. We can't do that on the road.

Mu hunch is that ND continues the trend under BK with playing better on the road than at home (still don't know why it seems that way, but it does). The game will be close and will come down to who turns the ball over. If Golson can play mistake free, the Irish have a shot.

Very good point. The best way to do that is march down the filed and put seven on the board on the first drive. Hopefully we win the toss.


As others have said, we need to run the ball. We need to run it from under center. We run much more effectively from center than the spread. It freezes the backers a little longer and our backs hit the holes more quickly. When TR was under center we ran much better against BYU than when in the spread.

We do need to open it up a little to keep them from filling the box.

On defense I think we'll have to blitz (run and pass) more than normal as this is probably the best offense we will have faced so far.

This team has learned they can play from behind and looking back, I think their best offensive effort came on the road at MSU. I look for this team to show no fear go into Norman and win a tight game.

 

[GoldenDomer15]

ND Defense - #6 Offense #74
OU Defense - #15 Offense #17

S.O.S.:

Phil Steele - ND #1 / OU #20 dated 5/29/2012

Computer based on games played s.o.s. -

ND #33 / OU #1

ND solid wins - Michigan, Miami, Michigan St., Stanford (Okay, BYU to some)
OU solid wins - Texas Tech, Texas

Key losses:

ND - 0 / OU - K-State

Match-UP

ND - Defense should be solid against the run. Would like to see some zone blitzing a couple of times to knock them in the mouth to make them run more often - the more time that ticks off the clock keeps the game low-scoring and we seem to win those games more often with our defense. Secondary will need to start correcting some coverage flaws especially in zone coverage (game 8 now boys, fix it).
ND - Offense needs to run, run, run and keep OU offense off the field as much as they can. Don't take any scoring chances for granted and split the uprights Brindza!!!!!!!

Discuss



GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!

Diz

I have a feeling Brindza is going to play a huge role this weekend.

 

[McGlovin]

It's been noted a few times that Oklahoma hasn't faced a defensive unit that is as good, or really in the same ballpark, as Notre Dame's. It's also been said that ND MUST get pressure on Landry in order to be successful on Saturday. ND won't really have to bring a bunch of extra guys in order to get pressure on Oklahoma, considering their O-Line is largely considered "patch-work". With Tuitt, Nix, and Co. they should have relative success getting to Landry. With all of this being said, shouldn't ND be able to disguise their "weakness" in the secondary, and counteract OKLA's biggest strength, by putting in nickel packages and dropping more guys into coverages and concentrating on guys like Stills?

 

[Emcee77]

I know this is a big game for us this weekend, but do we really need this many threads discussing the exact same thing?

I'm getting dizzy (ha) trying to keep up with all of the conversations between threads.

I agree, can't this go in the gameday thread?

 

[Irish#1]

I agree, can't this go in the gameday thread?

I agree, too many threads. Move it all to the gameday thread and let the insults fly.

 

[OU_Sooners75]

I think talent wise, ND is better. Executing the offense is what this game will be all about. It's the worst matchup on the schedule besides SC. They are explosive on the offiensive side of the ball and particularly in the pass game... What is ND's weak spot on defense? THE SECONDARY. They need to step up! Im as big of an Irish fan as there is, but im not stupid or delusional.... It's a tough freaking matchup and USC will be too!

Do what? ND is now more talented?

Wow...while I do think ND is a very talented team, they just aren't there yet. OU has by far more talented depth. And that is going to be the biigest key to this game.

For whomever said OUs OL is patchwork, think again. We lost our 4 year starting center before the season. We also lost a returning guard. But he was in a battle for the starting spot anyway.

OU came into the season and played very lackidaisical against UTEP. But then. Again, the coaches also admit that they didn't open the playbook on defense or offense.

Let me put it this way, if the OU offense is clicking like they have the last 3 games, it will be a very long day for ND. But if ND can disrupt the time of the OU offense, then they Irish win.


I'm not going to predict a score. But I'm not so sure OU pulls it out.

 

[koonja]

Do what? ND is now more talented?

Wow...while I do think ND is a very talented team, they just aren't there yet. OU has by far more talented depth. And that is going to be the biigest key to this game.

For whomever said OUs OL is patchwork, think again. We lost our 4 year starting center before the season. We also lost a returning guard. But he was in a battle for the starting spot anyway.

OU came into the season and played very lackidaisical against UTEP. But then. Again, the coaches also admit that they didn't open the playbook on defense or offense.

Let me put it this way, if the OU offense is clicking like they have the last 3 games, it will be a very long day for ND. But if ND can disrupt the time of the OU offense, then they Irish win.


I'm not going to predict a score. But I'm not so sure OU pulls it out.

So you say OU has much better talent and depth, admit they're rolling the past few weeks, and OU is playing at home, yet you're not sure they pull out the win? Ok.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Do what? ND is now more talented?

Wow...while I do think ND is a very talented team, they just aren't there yet. OU has by far more talented depth. And that is going to be the biigest key to this game.

For whomever said OUs OL is patchwork, think again. We lost our 4 year starting center before the season. We also lost a returning guard. But he was in a battle for the starting spot anyway.

OU came into the season and played very lackidaisical against UTEP. But then. Again, the coaches also admit that they didn't open the playbook on defense or offense.

Let me put it this way, if the OU offense is clicking like they have the last 3 games, it will be a very long day for ND. But if ND can disrupt the time of the OU offense, then they Irish win.


I'm not going to predict a score. But I'm not so sure OU pulls it out.

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[OU_Sooners75]

So you say OU has much better talent and depth, admit they're rolling the past few weeks, and OU is playing at home, yet you're not sure they pull out the win? Ok.

If you follow sports, then you should know that talent doesn't win games alone.

Attitude, preparation, and coaching does as well. As does execution.

OU is one of the deepest and talented teams in the nation. But they also firgure out ways to lose games.

Tech and Byalor last year. KSU this year.

Hence the reason I'm not so sure they can pull it out...maybe its my confidence in what I saw in the first three games. Hence the reason I said if they (OU) plays like they did the last three games I like their chances.

It all depends on which team shows up. And the last time this year OU was facing a good team in Norman, they lost!

 

[koonja]

If you follow sports, then you should know that talent doesn't win games alone.

Attitude, preparation, and coaching does as well. As does execution.

OU is one of the deepest and talented teams in the nation. But they also firgure out ways to lose games.

Tech and Byalor last year. KSU this year.

Hence the reason I'm not so sure they can pull it out...maybe its my confidence in what I saw in the first three games. Hence the reason I said if they (OU) plays like they did the last three games I like their chances.

It all depends on which team shows up. And the last time this year OU was facing a good team in Norman, they lost!

I hear you man. If you paid attention to ND last year you'd know you were preaching to the choir, lol. I was just confused as to what you meant. I hope this game comes down to who wins in the trenches. If that's the case I like ND's chances.

 

[CurtisCandy]

I will admit to being an eternal optimist when it comes to our team...

That said - with no disrespect intended towards OU - why is the media so high on them and the way they're offense is playing right now? Our boys take constant criticism about the quality of competition they faced, and who's not as good as everyone thought. Does this same rationale apply when discussing OU's offense?

I try to follow all of ND's opponents as much as possible, so I've been paying attention to OU's games:

1) UTEP - Oklahoma actually struggled against them, prompting the initial observations that they might not be as good as everyone thought.

2) Florida A&M - Really? Is that game - in any manner - ANY indication of the ability of a team with NC hopes, regardless of the score?

3) Kansas State - They played a tough game, but K State's defense put it to them pretty good. OU's offense was definitely questionable after their first real test.

4) Texas Tech - Good win for OU, but come on, TT has some SERIOUS issues on defense. West Virginia and TCU combined to put up 105 on them!

5) Texas - In my opinion, Texas Tech's defense is STOUT compared to Texas'! It's a very unusual thing to say about Texas, but their defense is miserable!

6) Kansas - C'mon...

All I'm trying to say is, I don't see anything awe-inspiring about the OU offense based on their body of work. As many others have noted, if Jones gets harassed to any extent (and I think Stephon, Prince and Irish Chocolate will see to it) I don't think they will put up a lot of points at all.

I may be delusional, but I'm saying ND turns EG loose with some plays we haven't even seen yet this year and ND wins by 10.

 

[IrishFBfanatic]

It's really simple...OU played KState and only scored 19. Miami played KState and scored 13...which makes Oklahoma 6 points better than Miami...so they will score 9 on us. We just have to score more than 9!

That is how it works....right??? ok probably should all be in italics...

 

[buckeyesooner]

OU d-line gets a shot in the arm with the return of Stacy McGee. That will help with depth if indeed ND does attempt to run the ball extensively. I see ND's offense versus OU's defense and feeling that OU gets the slight nod here. OU's offense, which has not yet opened up the playbook completely also has the edge over a very talented ND defense.

Prediction OU 31-17

 

[OU_Sooners75]

Who ever said Tech allowed a combined 105 points vs. TCU and WVU.


Did TCU really score 91 on them? I ask because WVU only scored 14 vs. Tech. And 7 of those came late in the game.


Hmmmm..

Mayve your think Texas alloing over 100 vs. WVU and OSU?

 

[Corry]

Who ever said Tech allowed a combined 105 points vs. TCU and WVU.


Did TCU really score 91 on them? I ask because WVU only scored 14 vs. Tech. And 7 of those came late in the game.


Hmmmm..

Mayve your think Texas alloing over 100 vs. WVU and OSU?

?

 

[Irish#1]

OU d-line gets a shot in the arm with the return of Stacy McGee. That will help with depth if indeed ND does attempt to run the ball extensively. I see ND's offense versus OU's defense and feeling that OU gets the slight nod here. OU's offense, which has not yet opened up the playbook completely also has the edge over a very talented ND defense.

Prediction OU 31-17

Do you also feel OU's offense is better than the Irish defense?

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I will admit to being an eternal optimist when it comes to our team...

That said - with no disrespect intended towards OU - why is the media so high on them and the way they're offense is playing right now? Our boys take constant criticism about the quality of competition they faced, and who's not as good as everyone thought. Does this same rationale apply when discussing OU's offense?

I try to follow all of ND's opponents as much as possible, so I've been paying attention to OU's games:

1) UTEP - Oklahoma actually struggled against them, prompting the initial observations that they might not be as good as everyone thought.

2) Florida A&M - Really? Is that game - in any manner - ANY indication of the ability of a team with NC hopes, regardless of the score?

3) Kansas State - They played a tough game, but K State's defense put it to them pretty good. OU's offense was definitely questionable after their first real test.

4) Texas Tech - Good win for OU, but come on, TT has some SERIOUS issues on defense. West Virginia and TCU combined to put up 105 on them!

5) Texas - In my opinion, Texas Tech's defense is STOUT compared to Texas'! It's a very unusual thing to say about Texas, but their defense is miserable!

6) Kansas - C'mon...

All I'm trying to say is, I don't see anything awe-inspiring about the OU offense based on their body of work. As many others have noted, if Jones gets harassed to any extent (and I think Stephon, Prince and Irish Chocolate will see to it) I don't think they will put up a lot of points at all.

I may be delusional, but I'm saying ND turns EG loose with some plays we haven't even seen yet this year and ND wins by 10.

Hmmmm maybe you should pay more attention to Texas Tech because they have a fantastic D.

 

[Downinthebend]

This certainly is the biggest game of my lifetime.

 

[GreatGolson]

This certainly is the biggest game of my lifetime.

Holy crap youre right, foranybody under 18 (93 fsu) this is definitely the biggest game weve been around for