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I really thought the last two episodes were gripping and some of the best non-pay channel tv I've seen in a long time. I agree that their demises were obvious, but not exactly the way they went down, so that is why I still enjoyed watching it all transpire. And (spoiler alert) I thought Pinkman would also go down, so the fact that he got through it all with Walt making a sacrifice to make it happen was redeeming enough for me to find the end of the series entirely fulfilling.
 

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I really thought the last two episodes were gripping and some of the best non-pay channel tv I've seen in a long time. I agree that their demises were obvious, but not exactly the way they went down, so that is why I still enjoyed watching it all transpire. And (spoiler alert) I thought Pinkman would also go down, so the fact that he got through it all with Walt making a sacrifice to make it happen was redeeming enough for me to find the end of the series entirely fulfilling.

I agree with all of this. I'm glad Walt got a bit of a redeeming moment at the end in helping Jesse go on to the better life he had been striving for. The episodes were amazing.

I just thought it would be a bit "messier" and harder for Walt to make things right in the end when Jesse was being held captive. Instead, everything works out perfectly, from the keys in the visor of the car to the perfect execution of the trunk gun.
 

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I agree with all of this. I'm glad Walt got a bit of a redeeming moment at the end in helping Jesse go on to the better life he had been striving for. The episodes were amazing.

I just thought it would be a bit "messier" and harder for Walt to make things right in the end when Jesse was being held captive. Instead, everything works out perfectly, from the keys in the visor of the car to the perfect execution of the trunk gun.

Almost perfect...Walt taking one in the gut was probably not part of the plan.
 

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I agree with all of this. I'm glad Walt got a bit of a redeeming moment at the end in helping Jesse go on to the better life he had been striving for. The episodes were amazing.

I just thought it would be a bit "messier" and harder for Walt to make things right in the end when Jesse was being held captive. Instead, everything works out perfectly, from the keys in the visor of the car to the perfect execution of the trunk gun.
Not specific to the last two episodes, but I think the "Jesse as a prisoner of the skinhead family" was a complete waste of the character in the fifth season. Jesse Plemons and his family were too new to have much of a payoff as a series-concluding arc. I think it would have been much more satisfying if the Pollos Hermanos and Hector Salamanca arcs had concluded the series. It felt like the first four seasons were a complete narrative but season five was kind of tacked on. Regarding Pinkman specifically, the first four seasons felt like "the Walt and Jesse story," while season five felt like "the Walt story with a bit of Jesse here and there."
 

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...Regarding Pinkman specifically, the first four seasons felt like "the Walt and Jesse story," while season five felt like "the Walt story with a bit of Jesse here and there."

WW is the main character and all, so...
 

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Not specific to the last two episodes, but I think the "Jesse as a prisoner of the skinhead family" was a complete waste of the character in the fifth season. Jesse Plemons and his family were too new to have much of a payoff as a series-concluding arc. I think it would have been much more satisfying if the Pollos Hermanos and Hector Salamanca arcs had concluded the series. It felt like the first four seasons were a complete narrative but season five was kind of tacked on. Regarding Pinkman specifically, the first four seasons felt like "the Walt and Jesse story," while season five felt like "the Walt story with a bit of Jesse here and there."

Yeah, it definitely wasn't satisfying as a fan of Jesse's over everything. I was disappointed that he was just kind of wasted in the cell. It was necessary to have Walt save Jesse, but they didn't need to kill his story over 6 of the last 8 episodes over it.

And forcing the Neo Nazis into the last season in such a big way definitely felt forced. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of retribution from the Gus ordeal on the way potentially, or am I imagining that? I thought there was a loose-end or something that kept Fring's people on the horizon, potentially to return.
 

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Just a guess but I bet some of these open-ended issues will rear their heads in BCS.
 

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Lion, since you mentioned Checkhov's gun, was there ever any narrative purpose of Skylar's affair, Walter Jr.'s disability, or Marie's kleptomania?
 
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Lion, since you mentioned Checkhov's gun, was there ever any narrative purpose of Skylar's affair, Walter Jr.'s disability, or Marie's kleptomania?

I don't think Skylar's affair would pertain to Chekhov's Gun, since it was a result of previous plot points, not a pre-existing plot point of its own.

I think Walt Jr's disability was used as a vehicle to illustrate a preexisting hardship for the family, which progresses the idea and makes Walt "breaking bad" a greater extreme. This might be illustrated in the scene from season one, when the jocks at the store are making fun of Walt Jr when he's looking at jeans with Skylar... Walt comes in guns blazing, which derived from Walter Jr's situation.

Marie's kleptomania is a vehicle to make you sympathetic to Skylar, IMO. It's natural to have mixed feelings about the Walt/Skylar relationship; even though Walt is being shady, Skylar could at least work with him a bit, and not turn the cold shoulder so quickly... what you can't really question, though, is Marie being in the wrong when it comes to her plot with Skylar (the tiara incident). They show Marie as a klepto, and then use that to give something for Skylar to be clearly and rightfully upset about. It's a hard line that the audience can use to sympathize (just a bit, and early on) with Skylar, while the line between her and Walt is so blurry.
 

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Currently on season 5 doing a re-watch.

Season 5 episode 6, "Buyout," might have my new favorite scene from the entire series. It's the aftermath of the train robbery, and Jesse decides he wants out.

He stops by the White residence to talk to Walt, and ends up staying for dinner with Walt and Skyler at Walt's insistence.

Aaron Paul sits at the dinner table between the two, acting out the awkwardness in character so well that it's unbelievable. From the Pinkman-like looks of confusion, to his feigned manners that turn into classic "yeah bitch!" quotes about microwave food, to his darting eyes as he awkwardly drinks his water after Skyler tells him about her affair... it's all so amazing. I've been laughing at my desk at the looks he keeps giving Walt for like five minutes now.
 

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Currently on season 5 doing a re-watch.

Season 5 episode 6, "Buyout," might have my new favorite scene from the entire series. It's the aftermath of the train robbery, and Jesse decides he wants out.

He stops by the White residence to talk to Walt, and ends up staying for dinner with Walt and Skyler at Walt's insistence.

Aaron Paul sits at the dinner table between the two, acting out the awkwardness in character so well that it's unbelievable. From the Pinkman-like looks of confusion, to his feigned manners that turn into classic "yeah bitch!" quotes about microwave food, to his darting eyes as he awkwardly drinks his water after Skyler tells him about her affair... it's all so amazing. I've been laughing at my desk at the looks he keeps giving Walt for like five minutes now.
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FYI for those who have never seen and don't have Netflix, of fans who think it's time to re-live the roller coaster ride....

AMC is doing a marathon on Sundays each week of all BB seasons starting this coming Sunday. Don't really have the time to invest right now, but very tempted to at least set my DVR.
 

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Finally got around to watching the DVR'd marathon two weeks ago. On Season 2 currently when Saul Goodman is intro'd...

In Better Call Saul, I thought Jimmy at some point does something wrong, and goes into hiding, and takes on the persona of Saul. Yet when Walter first meets Saul, Saul tells him his real name (Jimmy McGill) in a matter-of-fact kinda conversation. Now rethinking what I think happened as Saul would never share that if he was in hiding at this point... Am I the only one that thought along those lines.

Anyway, really appreciating the second go at BB and all the characters, main and supporting.

  • Totally forgot about Krysten Ritter. So hot.
  • DJ qualls as the undercover cop
  • Also forgot about Danny Trejo. His head on the tortoise scene is hilarious.
  • I forgot Tuco's life was so short
 

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Friend of mine in Michigan has a catering business. Danny Trejo was doing a movie in Michigan earlier this year and she did the catering on the set. She said he was really short like 5-6, 5-7. But also said he was an extremely nice guy.
 

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Friend of mine in Michigan has a catering business. Danny Trejo was doing a movie in Michigan earlier this year and she did the catering on the set. She said he was really short like 5-6, 5-7. But also said he was an extremely nice guy.

I've heard the same (he's a great guy). Still laughing about his head blowing up. Hola!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BreakingBad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BreakingBad</a> movie in the works from creator Vince Gilligan. The film "tracks the escape of a kidnapped man and his quest for freedom." Production on the new film is set to begin this month.<br><br>via <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Variety</a> <a href="https://t.co/nOkIYt4dJo">pic.twitter.com/nOkIYt4dJo</a></p>— Rotten Tomatoes (@RottenTomatoes) <a href="https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1060024988751687680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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It's gotta be Jesse Pinkman's quest for peace... OR IS IT?

Who else was kidnapped over the course of the series? It seems to be too perfect of an opportunity for Gilligan to throw a curveball and make the movie about some obscure character.

I guess we'll know based on whether or not Aaron Paul is there when production starts.
 
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