Biden Presidency

[goldandblue]

Less corrupt, not supported by white nationalists, not an international embarrassment, doesn't whine and bitch about how everything and everyone is out to get him, didn't put tariffs impacting my local economy, overall just less bad than the historic embarrassment that followed him previously.

Are those simple enough terms? Look up at BB for an intelligent response.

You are now free to continue discussing far out conspiracies about diaries or whatever else.

You think Biden is not an international embarrassment????

 

[Irish2155]

Fuck you. You still haven’t answered one damn question. You just pot stir north of the border without any substance.

Why? Simple question. Why are we all suffering for no reason? At least tell me why. I’m good to play my part if there is a purpose.

But there is nothing. It’s empty. Tell my why? Why kill the middle class? Never an answer.

Stupid. Someone else try to rationalize with this fool.

 

[ACamp1900]

You think Biden is not an international embarrassment????

Right??? Or a guy with extremely problematic racial stances and comments?? Also let’s be real about white nationalism. There are racist idiots on every side of every political aisle known to man. However when the left talks white nationalism they aren’t talking race driven hate,… they’re just trying to use that idea to silence or marginalize everyday white guys who love their country and don’t want the gov running their lives.

 

[Armyirish47]

International opinions of the US.

1. International public opinion of the U.S. remains positive

 

[BilboBaggins]

See, WTF is this. You think I’m going to read through this rant.

Check two boxes and we’re good: my money, and my safety.

Stop over complicating it. Lady won’t even let me take her downtown after 6pm any more. It’s fucking sad.

I lol'd. "I'm ignorant and angry, and I sorta like it that way!"

 

[Armyirish47]

I lol'd. "I'm ignorant and angry, and I sorta like it that way!"

In his defense, I bet the best library is in the apocalyptic hellscape that is downtown.

 

[Irish2155]

I lol'd. "I'm ignorant and angry, and I sorta like it that way!"

Yet, still no answer. Call me what you will.

A lot of people angry, I guess they are all ignorant too.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Fuck you. You still haven’t answered one damn question. You just pot stir north of the border without any substance.

Why? Simple question. Why are we all suffering for no reason? At least tell me why. I’m good to play my part if there is a purpose.

But there is nothing. It’s empty. Tell my why? Why kill the middle class? Never an answer.

Stupid. Someone else try to rationalize with this fool.

You talk about trying to rationalize something while pretending that the President somehow manages the world economy, or is responsible for the police department in Indianapolis?

The latter must be a joke. I mean Indiana is a very red state and the state governor and legislature could intervene with XYZ solutions. Or the Mayor/Council in Indianapolis. You think the Biden Administration is responsible for your heffer being afraid of downtown?

I gave you a breakdown of the Biden Administration's term and you pussed out refused to read it. Stop asking "why?" when you won't even read. Sounds like you're afraid of paragraphs as much as you are downtown.

 

[TorontoGold]

You talk about trying to rationalize something while pretending that the President somehow manages the world economy, or is responsible for the police department in Indianapolis?

The latter must be a joke. I mean Indiana is a very red state and the state governor and legislature could intervene with XYZ solutions. Or the Mayor/Council in Indianapolis. You think the Biden Administration is responsible for your heffer being afraid of downtown?

I gave you a breakdown of the Biden Administration's term and you pussed out refused to read it. Stop asking "why?" when you won't even read. Sounds like you're afraid of paragraphs as much as you are downtown.

Some enjoy to live in simplistic fear. Wonder if he knows he's more likely to be rinsed by COVID than a glock at White Castle.

 

[Irish2155]

You talk about trying to rationalize something while pretending that the President somehow manages the world economy, or is responsible for the police department in Indianapolis?

The latter must be a joke. I mean Indiana is a very red state and the state governor and legislature could intervene with XYZ solutions. Or the Mayor/Council in Indianapolis. You think the Biden Administration is responsible for your heffer being afraid of downtown?

I gave you a breakdown of the Biden Administration's term and you pussed out refused to read it. Stop asking "why?" when you won't even read. Sounds like you're afraid of paragraphs as much as you are downtown.

Very simple, dude. Fight it what you will.

Two boxes: money and safety. Check them, not fight them.

But again, those 12% still exist. See above.

 

[Irish2155]

Some enjoy to live in simplistic fear. Wonder if he knows he's more likely to be rinsed by COVID than a glock at White Castle.

Lol. Y’all going to team up now. The sheep start to herd

Answer the question

 

[BilboBaggins]

Very simple, dude. Fight it what you will.

Two boxes: money and safety. Check them, not fight them.

But again, those 12% still exist. See above.

Sounds like you should run for Indianapolis Council then? But you'd have to at least be willing to read the Minutes, which might be a tall order here...

 

[Irish2155]

Tall order indeed. I certainly don’t enjoy reading a book full of bull shit.

All good y’all. Fucking insult away. I’m still awaiting an answer. Why kill the middle class without reason?

 

[BilboBaggins]

Tall order indeed. I certainly don’t enjoy reading a book full of bull shit.

All good y’all. Fucking insult away. I’m still awaiting an answer. Why kill the middle class without reason?

Here's my answer: there are reasons for the economic turbulence, you just aren't interested in anything that doesn’t justify your views.

 

[Irish2155]

Here's my answer: there are reasons for the economic turbulence, you just aren't interested in anything that doesn’t justify your views.

I step out to cut grass and this is literally your “answer”.

“There are reasons for economic turbulence”

No, you aren’t interested, Mr. 12%. The reason (and it’s singular) is Joe. I know this because there are many comparables. My (everyone’s) retirement sat much better just 2 short years ago.

I don’t care if his kid smokes crack. I don’t care if Trump’s kid smokes crack. I care about money and safety

That’s at least 4 times I’ve shared my “narrative”. Money and safety…there, 5.

 

[BilboBaggins]

I step out to cut grass and this is literally your “answer”.

“There are reasons for economic turbulence”

No, you aren’t interested, Mr. 12%. The reason (and it’s singular) is Joe. I know this because there are many comparables. My (everyone’s) retirement sat much better just 2 short years ago.

I don’t care if his kid smokes crack. I don’t care if Trump’s kid smokes crack. I care about money and safety

That’s at least 4 times I’ve shared my “narrative”. Money and safety…there, 5.

If you're in diversified index funds, that's probably not a true statement.

The Dow, for example:

July 08, 2022: 31,338.15
July 10, 2020: 26,075.30

...that's like a 20% increase in two years.

Thats because, while 2022 has been a rough year on the market, 2020 and 2021 were great years. Especially if you bought the dip in 2020. I'll repeat myself from a post you didn't bother to read: every single US President has seen the economy reach a record size and the market reach record highs. Every. Single. One.

You're probably going to be too scared to take advantage of the dip happening now. America will always weather the economic turbulence.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Gas prices experiencing their biggest drop in more than a decade, some states down 22% from their peak a month ago. Should I be praising Biden for stirring up a great response to high gas prices, or recognize that the President doesn't set gas prices anyway? I can't tell given the opinions on here that the Oval Office is basically the master and commander of a globalized capitalist market economy...

 

[GATTACA!]

Gas prices experiencing their biggest drop in more than a decade, some states down 22% from their peak a month ago. Should I be praising Biden for stirring up a great response to high gas prices, or recognize that the President doesn't set gas prices anyway? I can't tell given the opinions on here that the Oval Office is basically the master and commander of a globalized capitalist market economy...

All these fancy ass words. What won't you just answer a simple question!?

 

[GATTACA!]

Lol. Y’all going to team up now. The sheep start to herd

Answer the question

I like how everyone disagrees with you and your response is "You're all idiots!" Ever just stop and think maybe you're the idiot? Lol

 

[Irish2155]

I like how everyone disagrees with you and your response is "You're all idiots!" Ever just stop and think maybe you're the idiot? Lol

I like how you tip toe the question too.

 

[GATTACA!]

I like how you tip toe the question too.

Bilbo and Toronto have both given you multi paragraph answers that you've refused to even read. Why would anyone bother?

 

[Irish#1]

Less corrupt, not supported by white nationalists, not an international embarrassment, doesn't whine and bitch about how everything and everyone is out to get him, didn't put tariffs impacting my local economy, overall just less bad than the historic embarrassment that followed him previously.

Are those simple enough terms? Look up at BB for an intelligent response.

You are now free to continue discussing far out conspiracies about diaries or whatever else.

I'll bite.

I think the Administration was caught flat-footed on the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Not even talking about the terrorist attack that killed US soldiers--thats an impossible standard, just a fundamental lack of coordination with allies and not having a better worst-case-scenario plan ready to go. I'm a big believer in planning for the worst and hoping for the best. After Trump ignored the Afghans and only negotiated with the Taliban, it's wild that the Biden Administration didn't plan for an immediately crumbling.

I think the same is true with a lot of their domestic policies. Biden had record *high* approval ratings and the Administration clearly was planning to drop COVID-19 like a bad habit and watch the economy surge ahead... instead they were caught flat-footed again and surprised by the inflation. The limited options to fight inflation, and the time table to see results, have to be as frustrating for them as they are for us.

Oh you wanted what went well? I think the Administration's handling of Ukraine and bolstering NATO and alliances has been terrific. Particularly in the build up to war and sharing intelligence with Ukraine showing Russia's entire game plan. Assuming the GOP doesn't elect another asshat with a personal mission of destroying alliances, then the Biden Administration will probably be successful in undoing the Trump damage and should get credit for bringing the Europeans, US, and Asian allies much closer together to formally oppose Russia/China. This could end up being the wake up call that Obama and Trump tried unsuccessfully to accomplish in their terms. I think the Biden Administration was handed a golden opportunity and did not drop the ball.

Domestically, working in government myself, the American Rescue Plan Act, ARPA, streamlined a lot of state and local grant money that allowed for consistent planning and budgeting from state and local agencies, and our respective engineering firms. ARPA didn't print a ton of money so much as codified a long-term infrastructure budget that was otherwise cobbled together every year or so by Congress. In previous years it was a lot tougher to plan larger projects because you didn't have confidence in the funding being available. ARPA did a lot to improve that system.

Generally speaking, the onshoring of manufacturing and specifically the national security sector manufacturing (think microchips) is something that a lot of Presidents talked about but this administration actually got done. Intel's massive investment in Columbus, and others like it, are going to make America more secure.

I think the pandemic and the resulting supply chain shortages exposed the fragility of just-in-time manufacturing and global supply chains and I think the administration has done a lot of the ground work to make sure crucial industries can be brought back to the US. I am involved in corporate site selection and the consultants I work with have never see the demand for square footage that is happening right now.

I basically think it's a mixed bag presidency with a lot of bad luck and things that are outside the Administration's controls but they haven't done themselves any favors by not actively planning for worst-case scenarios as often as they should be. IMO the PR of last summer was similar to the infamous "Mission Accomplished" flop as the post-COVID return to normalcy was going to be a multi-year thing and they wanted to declare victory before it even began.

At the end of the day every single US president has seen the US economy reach a record size and the market reach a record high. Every single one. Inflation and global economic turbulence will subside.

You may now resume the Biden-has-dementia-and-is-actively-destroying-the-US-every-day-omg-the-sky-is-falling circlejerk...

Not sure "not an international embarrassment" is accurate. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was an embarrassment as other countries were forced to scramble to take in refugees. Not to mention we (U.S.) were not prepared to take in refugees, particularly the ones who had been assisting our government. IIRC we ended up leaving some behind. All Biden had to do was say we're leaving, but push the date back, but they wanted to hit that deadline for publicity. Turns out he got the publicity, just not the type he thought he would get. The submarine deal also didn't set well with a number of countries, especially France.

If Joe blaming everyone else isn't bitching and whining, what is it? He was emphatic that "The buck stops here", yet he continues to blame everyone else when things don't go as planned. COVID and gas prices are two good examples.

I give Joe a B on Ukraine.

 

[Irish#1]

You talk about trying to rationalize something while pretending that the President somehow manages the world economy, or is responsible for the police department in Indianapolis?

The latter must be a joke. I mean Indiana is a very red state and the state governor and legislature could intervene with XYZ solutions. Or the Mayor/Council in Indianapolis. You think the Biden Administration is responsible for your heffer being afraid of downtown?

I gave you a breakdown of the Biden Administration's term and you pussed out refused to read it. Stop asking "why?" when you won't even read. Sounds like you're afraid of paragraphs as much as you are downtown.

For the record, Indy mayor and council are blue.

 

[Irish#1]

You asked and I responded, big boy. If some of those are too "emotional" I look forward to you calling out whatever sad, frustrated, and lonely man who is upset about something a teenager said which seems to be a daily occurrence here.

Why can't you go downtown? Who's stopping you lmao. If you're priced out of being able to go "downtown" then a flip of a president won't be able to help you buddy.

I think he was looking for more substance about Biden. You responded, but it was basically "he's not Trump".

 

[TorontoGold]

I think he was looking for more substance about Biden. You responded, but it was basically "he's not Trump".

I gave a number of reasons, if he didn't like it, tough.

You're free to call him out on what "wallet and safety" exactly entail. I won't hold my breath.

 

[NorthDakota]

I dont think Dems will let Biden run again.

 

[GATTACA!]

I dont think Dems will let Biden run again.

From your lips to god’s ears.

 

[ACamp1900]

The problem is Trump got into office bc people were turned off by how divisive and one sided Obama was and how blind cult like his voters seemed,… not so much bc he was a good candidate,… then other people voted Biden into office bc how divisive and childish Trump was and how blind cult like his supporters came off to them,… and now here we are. Strong odds that this constant tit for tat will continue to not work out. I mean if we can’t even agree on this admins’ clear failings then yeah,… good luck. We really need an adult to step up, stop with this one sided divide and conquer party line driven crap that been so dominant over the last 15 plus years and push forth common sense policy to fix real problems that our gov has a large hand in creating in the first place instead of doubling down on previous failures. This is probably all wishful on my part thinking but yeah,… that’s where I’m at.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Biden won the primary only because others (better candidates) dropped out in order to avoid the party putting forth a progressive as their candidate. Almost nobody believed that Biden would be a great President, they only thought that Biden was the best chance to beat Trump.

Once in office, Biden couldn't appease a lot of the Democrat party, the more he tried, to placate them, he just alienated independent voters.

 

[ACamp1900]

Biden won the primary only because others (better candidates) dropped out in order to avoid the party putting forth a progressive as their candidate. Almost nobody believed that Biden would be a great President, they only thought that Biden was the best chance to beat Trump.

Once in office, Biden couldn't appease a lot of the Democrat party, the more he tried, to placate them, he just alienated independent voters.

Agreed. I’m speaking more to the national above,… I find a lot of people don’t even follow the primaries.