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Irish#1

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I used that as an example of a different plan, get it together man.

I'll tell you what. Biden could use you on his spin team. I admire your loyalty and willingness to die on that hill. But hey, we're out. The Americans left behind, the soldiers that died, the equipment left behind and the Afghans falling from the plane are now just footnotes. Now we can move on and talk about Joe's other big victory getting COVID under control in the first couple of months of his presidency as he said he would.

Still waiting.
 

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It's just another footnote.

This will be my final post on the Afghanistan matter, though I will have more to say on other matters of Biden and the anti-Catholicism which rains down upon him.

Here goes. Too many non-combat veterans providing a non-solution to the fin de guerre, always messy and bleeped up, to wit.the "fog of war,"

We don't have enough warriors, first shown in the second Gulf war.

I like the Geneva conventions, nice idea and often practiced.

But things happen in a combat zone.

If Saddam Hussein had been caught in a spider hole by my rifle company, he would have been fragged in the hole.

"Furtive movements s'arnt!"
"He appeared to reach for a pistol.!
"He;s a dangerous man, and threatened my buddies. He shouted that he had canisters of nerve gas>"

BOOM goes Saddam. No drama, no TV parasites no show trial. Quick, fast dead.

that's just the way it is.

I wouldn't have. But my badass bro Ro---------------Br--------------------from somewhere out on I-5 would have
or J____________ S __________from Toledo
or J------------------Middle________________from Bed Stuy
But Hussein would have been dead.

In this recent event,
I would never have let Ashraf Ghani leave the country.

ARM BAR AND Grab the bag with the $160 million, to be used for bargaining with the Taliban.
andc turn him over.

Captains. Ships. Duh

And homie don't play deserters.l You wear the uniform, you p[ick up the rifle you don't get to drop it.

So I would have provided the Taliban with the names, ranks and serial numbers of every one of the Afhan army of Ashraf Ghani. Every one.

DESERTION deserves death. They deserted their army, and the American presence of 20 years

Acts have consequences. Death happens.

The Ashraf Ghani example? Would have scared the excrement of every tinhorn Shah/thieu/Ky wannabe and scared 'em off.

That, precisely is the point.

And the 300,000.

Don't punk the USA

Ya either in or ya out.
 

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From CNN.com

Even Democrats on Capitol Hill seem to have some interest in finding out what went wrong. Biden's recent comment that chaos was inevitable in leaving a war is not only not credible, but it also directly conflicts with his promises of only six weeks ago.
Among the key questions yet to be answered:
  • Why did the President and his administration fail so spectacularly to appreciate the fragility of the Afghan government and army? The misjudgment laid the groundwork for the chaos of an evacuation that began with several desperate Afghans falling to their deaths after clinging to the outside of US jets.
  • Why were there insufficient troops to cover the long-planned retreat? The abandonment of the Bagram Air Force Base to focus the evacuations out of the US embassy and international airport in Kabul is one of the biggest criticisms coming from Biden's GOP critics.
  • How did the US get to the point where its forces were marooned on the small island of the Hamid Karzai International Airport that was highly unsuitable for mounting one of the biggest airlifts in human history?
  • And why were US troops reliant on security at the airport provided by their enemy, the Taliban?
  • Why didn't the administration move more quickly to process Special Immigrant Visa applicants given the urgency being expressed by veterans groups and multiple lawmakers on Capitol Hill?
 

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Wonder how many times Biden has said this in the last two months- Biden said. “And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.”

More evidence Biden had no clue what was coming and probably the reason Biden and company all went on vacation as Afghanistan was falling.
 

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I'll tell you what. Biden could use you on his spin team. I admire your loyalty and willingness to die on that hill. But hey, we're out. The Americans left behind, the soldiers that died, the equipment left behind and the Afghans falling from the plane are now just footnotes. Now we can move on and talk about Joe's other big victory getting COVID under control in the first couple of months of his presidency as he said he would.

Still waiting.

Hey, I’m offering some much needed different perspective in this thread. Tough beans you don’t like it. Maybe you can go back to your musings about why the political threads are the same 4 people wanking each other off to right wing nonsense?
 

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1200 days to go in the Biden Presidency, give or take.

If the same 4 people make 4 posts a day about how inept Biden is, that would bring the Biden HATEPOST count up to over 20,000!

Golly, should we call Guiness? Is n't that some sort of a record?
 

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That's right, lock it in and start printing the history books. We're done here. :cbanana:

No matter how hard you try, there's not enough lipstick or perfume to make this pig attractive. Your boy screwed up as badly as any president in history. Even experts from his own party are shocked by how badly he handled this. Just admit it instead of trying to defend the indefensible.
 

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Hey, I’m offering some much needed different perspective in this thread. Tough beans you don’t like it. Maybe you can go back to your musings about why the political threads are the same 4 people wanking each other off to right wing nonsense?

Seems you don't like what I'm posting either, but that's okay. I enjoy the discussion whether you believe it or not. As far as the same four people, you haven't noticed the Trump bashers that were always on here have conveniently disappeared as Biden keeps tripping over his own feet?

BTW.....I'm done waiting for you to show me the post where I stated you said the families of the fallen soldiers should be okay with the deaths. We both know it never happened.
 

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Seems you don't like what I'm posting either, but that's okay. I enjoy the discussion whether you believe it or not. As far as the same four people, you haven't noticed the Trump bashers that were always on here have conveniently disappeared as Biden keeps tripping over his own feet?

BTW.....I'm done waiting for you to show me the post where I stated you said the families of the fallen soldiers should be okay with the deaths. We both know it never happened.

The walls were closing in for years around here. The pee tape was going to do him in for so long. It was sappy. There was something I thought Biden did OK on, but I can't remember what it was.
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/larryoconnor/status/1433013196642824199?s=21[/TWEET]
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/lansing/status/1433025960723501057?s=21[/TWEET]
 

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I fear we're going to see more of these things pop up.
 

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As far as the same four people, you haven't noticed the Trump bashers that were always on here have conveniently disappeared as Biden keeps tripping over his own feet?

Trump is no longer President. I most definitely would not expect anyone to be in this thread with the same 4 posters providing very little insight & keeping the threads hidden away from the main board.

For example, an Alabama fan on a Notre Dame message board stated Biden screwed up as bad as any President in history. The regulars still around will not say a peep challenging that. No, I wouldn't expect Irish fans to waste their time like I've done the past day.

BTW.....I'm done waiting for you to show me the post where I stated you said the families of the fallen soldiers should be okay with the deaths. We both know it never happened.

How many casualties are okay? You think any of the families of the 13 fallen soldiers is okay with their sons/daughters death?

If you're saying "you" as in me or if you're being rhetorical, your point is the exact same.
 

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How many casualties are okay? You think any of the families of the 13 fallen soldiers is okay with their sons/daughters death?

If you're saying "you" as in me or if you're being rhetorical, your point is the exact same.

No, one is question and one is a statement. Big difference.

You stated casualties were minimized and used the number of people they flew out to down play the deaths. I then asked the question.

Here's my original post.

How many casualties are okay? You think any of the families of the 13 fallen soldiers is okay with their sons/daughters death? Evidently we did leave some (estimated 300?) behind. Could be a number of reasons for that, but the fact is we didn't get all of the Americans and Afghan allies out by Joe's deadline.

That's a question.

You replied with

Show me where I said families of the fallen victims should be okay?

You're asking me to show you a statement that I never made.
 

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Trump is no longer President. I most definitely would not expect anyone to be in this thread with the same 4 posters providing very little insight & keeping the threads hidden away from the main board.

For example, an Alabama fan on a Notre Dame message board stated Biden screwed up as bad as any President in history. The regulars still around will not say a peep challenging that. No, I wouldn't expect Irish fans to waste their time like I've done the past day.

Amusing to see how you position your foray into this thread as a rare trip to the dregs of IE when probably 95% of your posts are in the Politics subfourm.
 

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Amusing to see how you position your foray into this thread as a rare trip to the dregs of IE when probably 95% of your posts are in the Politics subfourm.

Correct, I've got enough on my plate with other ND-focused enterprises that I'm not posting much except for a rare drive-by through the dregs.
 

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Correct, I've got enough on my plate with other ND-focused enterprises that I'm not posting much except for a rare drive-by through the dregs.

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Irish#1

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Correct, I've got enough on my plate with other ND-focused enterprises that I'm not posting much except for a rare drive-by through the dregs.

We appreciate you squeezing out a minute or two from your busy schedule to enlighten us.
 

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81 million votes and only Rocket89 is there to defend him. LOL. I guess it is impressive on some level that even one person shows up to defend him right now.

Oh - and he gets five Pinocchios for claiming the "same four posters"

Drayer, Irish#1, me, IrishRazor,Tussin, Polish Leppy - just in the last two pages. Sorry I don't make the rules but if the claim of $85B of weapons is a fact check lie so is that embarrassingly false statement.
 

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Misery, simply is a choice.

So are FEAR, ANGER and HATE

There's another way:

> You have been telling people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell the people that this is the Hour. And there are things to be considered…
>
> Where are you living?
> What are you doing?
> What are your relationships?
> Are you in right relation?
> Where is your water?
>
> Know your garden.
> It is time to speak your truth.
> Create your community.
> Be good to each other.
> And do not look outside yourself for your leader.
>
> Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, “This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.
>
> And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey come to a halt.
>
> The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish the word ’struggle’ from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.

This message is from a source other than Christ but comports with Christ's clear teaching in Matthew 5-7.

For me and my family, we are not the apostles to the

AGGRIEVED
the angry
the fearful
the hateful.
 

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81 million votes and only Rocket89 is there to defend him. LOL. I guess it is impressive on some level that even one person shows up to defend him right now.

Oh - and he gets five Pinocchios for claiming the "same four posters"

Drayer, Irish#1, me, IrishRazor,Tussin, Polish Leppy - just in the last two pages. Sorry I don't make the rules but if the claim of $85B of weapons is a fact check lie so is that embarrassingly false statement.

Is it six whole people now? Wow, major congratulations on all the success!

A hidden thread on a Notre Dame message board with very likely zero alums from the few still posting in it…yeah wonderful bellwether for politics. Another keen observation!
 

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Is it six whole people now? Wow, major congratulations on all the success!

A hidden thread on a Notre Dame message board with very likely zero alums from the few still posting in it…yeah wonderful bellwether for politics. Another keen observation!

Why does the alum status of posters matter at all in this thread?
 

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For example, an Alabama fan on a Notre Dame message board stated Biden screwed up as bad as any President in history. The regulars still around will not say a peep challenging that.

Do you really not understand why? Because it's an accurate claim. I've asked you and all the other leftists here to tell us what they saw in Biden's record, actions, or campaign that convinced them he was a good choice for president, and not one could give an answer. He's inept. He's clueless. He has no moral compass, nor any track record of success, nor anything that would ever suggest he should be in charge of anything more important than a lemonade stand. And his actions in Afghanistan are EXACTLY what half of us did expect and all of us should have expected given his track record. Yet you are here defending him. Notice that all the others who have never hesitated to chime in on all things political have grown strangely silent about him recently? Even they know he's a disaster and that he screwed up big time here. He's Jimmy Carter without the integrity or intelligence, but all the naivete and weakness.
 

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Why does the alum status of posters matter at all in this thread?

Because the cross-section of posters remaining gives us insight into answering the question of why so many people have been run off and/or decided to leave the politics on this site, especially now that Trump is out. The threads are also hidden. I'm not an alumnus but the posters remaining are not very representative of Notre Dame fans and alums on the whole. Add in 500 ND fans and things would look a lot different.

So, when anyone wants to take a victory lap about the lack of posters from the other side of the aisle like you won something it's important to keep in mind 99% of the people here aren't in these threads and those who have left had good reason.
 
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Misery, simply is a choice.

So are FEAR, ANGER and HATE

There's another way:

> You have been telling people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell the people that this is the Hour. And there are things to be considered…
>
> Where are you living?
> What are you doing?
> What are your relationships?
> Are you in right relation?
> Where is your water?
>
> Know your garden.
> It is time to speak your truth.
> Create your community.
> Be good to each other.
> And do not look outside yourself for your leader.
>
> Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, “This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.
>
> And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey come to a halt.
>
> The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish the word ’struggle’ from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.

This message is from a source other than Christ but comports with Christ's clear teaching in Matthew 5-7.

For me and my family, we are not the apostles to the

AGGRIEVED
the angry
the fearful
the hateful.

Can't tell if drugs or wanna be preacher man.
 

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Do you really not understand why? Because it's an accurate claim. I've asked you and all the other leftists here to tell us what they saw in Biden's record, actions, or campaign that convinced them he was a good choice for president, and not one could give an answer. He's inept. He's clueless. He has no moral compass, nor any track record of success, nor anything that would ever suggest he should be in charge of anything more important than a lemonade stand. And his actions in Afghanistan are EXACTLY what half of us did expect and all of us should have expected given his track record. Yet you are here defending him. Notice that all the others who have never hesitated to chime in on all things political have grown strangely silent about him recently? Even they know he's a disaster and that he screwed up big time here. He's Jimmy Carter without the integrity or intelligence, but all the naivete and weakness.

Okay.
 
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