Biden Presidency

[GowerND11]

Stopping people does not equal turning them around. Or do you never leave your neighborhood b/c you don't know how to get past the stop signs? You are being intellectually dishonest by implying these people are not entering our country.

Who's the one being intellectually dishonest by comparing illegal border crossing stops and a stop sign?

 

[GowerND11]

What do you think happens when they are stopped?

Well according to you, I assume they are given the keys to a house, food stamps, a job, and a stimulus check...

 

[RDU Irish]

Who's the one being intellectually dishonest by comparing illegal border crossing stops and a stop sign?

Trying to understand your logic requires intellectual dishonesty - you are correct.

I would love for media to accurately report the volumes of people being handled at the borders to include the numbers that are sent away versus the numbers that are given a pass to enter. I would never want to live near our southern border - seems like a never ending cluster. Again - both sides are not serious about fixing the problem. IMO, Trump was the only person to ever make a meaningful move to "fix" it and caught flack from Ds and undermining from Rs. Now we have the highest numbers in over 2 decades and the "KIDS IN CAGES" mob is now carrying water for Biden's compassionate processing centers that offer in-person learning!

Would honestly love to hear your take on how the border should be run. Mine is simple - big wall and a big door (at least 5x the visas and citizenship numbers of today) - no anchor babies.

 

[GowerND11]

Trying to understand your logic requires intellectual dishonesty - you are correct.

I would love for media to accurately report the volumes of people being handled at the borders to include the numbers that are sent away versus the numbers that are given a pass to enter. I would never want to live near our southern border - seems like a never ending cluster. Again - both sides are not serious about fixing the problem. IMO, Trump was the only person to ever make a meaningful move to "fix" it and caught flack from Ds and undermining from Rs. Now we have the highest numbers in over 2 decades and the "KIDS IN CAGES" mob is now carrying water for Biden's compassionate processing centers that offer in-person learning!

Would honestly love to hear your take on how the border should be run. Mine is simple - big wall and a big door (at least 5x the visas and citizenship numbers of today) - no anchor babies.

A big wall isn't going to work. Never mind the cost, it's unwieldy, environmentally unsound, and ineffective. I'm all about more visas, and I can be sold on the no anchor baby issue as well. The biggest issues here are humanitarian (what's going on in these countries they're leaving), having enough agents/security measures (pressure plates, cameras, etc.), and real hard talks with the leaders of those countries. We also have to stop acting like these people are taking jobs we all want, when they continually work under the table as migrant farmers, unskilled laborers, and more.

 

[Irish#1]

Good. Then you'll understand this was the outcome that was to be expected after both president's had to help the country out of a pandemic. Not to mention, we were already very late in the growth cycle and after the tax cuts there was already fuel poured on the inflation fire. A lot of the sectors facing high increases have been hit with supply issues (see - chip shortages for cars, cyber attack on the gas pipeline) so yeah....if there is a supply chain impact then of course prices are going to go up.

Central banks are going to act accordingly and predictably, there is no reason to get upset. Cycle your investments into defensive stocks and ride it out, everything is going to be ok. Poor people? Oh they're fucked but that's what happens when both parties don't give a dick about them.

The second check wasn't necessary and only added to what is happening. Now he wants to keep spending?

If you have a car to sell and don't need to replace it, now's the time to do it.

This is also contradictory to what Joe said. He platformed on taking care of the lower class and sticking it to the wealthy.

 

[Irish#1]

A big wall isn't going to work. Never mind the cost, it's unwieldy, environmentally unsound, and ineffective. I'm all about more visas, and I can be sold on the no anchor baby issue as well. The biggest issues here are humanitarian (what's going on in these countries they're leaving), having enough agents/security measures (pressure plates, cameras, etc.), and real hard talks with the leaders of those countries. We also have to stop acting like these people are taking jobs we all want, when they continually work under the table as migrant farmers, unskilled laborers, and more.

We already pump billions of dollars of aid into these countries. Short of starting a war, to take over the country there isn't a lot that can be done for them. I have no problem accepting anyone as long as they come in legally and pay their share of taxes. I stop at giving them social security and welfare benefits if they haven't paid into the system.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

3 months and still no explanation from my buddy GoIrish41 on Biden's internment camps. Disappointing.

 

[drayer54]

3 months and still no explanation from my buddy GoIrish41 on Biden's internment camps. Disappointing.

We just now got gas lines and inflation. It's not that radical lefties don't want the gulags. Just give it time.

 

[NorthDakota]

3 months and still no explanation from my buddy GoIrish41 on Biden's internment camps. Disappointing.

He has a way of doing that...

Will never get over him accusing me of living in the middle of nowhere while I was ball's deep in Manhattan lmaoooo. Disappeared for like 8 months after that

 

[GowerND11]

We already pump billions of dollars of aid into these countries. Short of starting a war, to take over the country there isn't a lot that can be done for them. I have no problem accepting anyone as long as they come in legally and pay their share of taxes. I stop at giving them social security and welfare benefits if they haven't paid into the system.

I agree with your overall premise, but we all know it isn't that easy. As RDU said, increasing visas and all is a great start. People are on that list for years. Tell me if your town was overrun by the cartel, raping young women, forcing teenage boys to become drug runners you wouldn't take your chances at the border?

I also do agree about the billions in aid. Where is that money REALLY going? Is it being used effectively? Also, where is the rest of the world in granting real support and aid for these people?

 

[Bishop2b5]

For those of us who are of a certain age, this is soooooo reminiscent of the Carter years in the late 70's. Welcome to my world, kiddos.

 

[GowerND11]

For those of us who are of a certain age, this is soooooo reminiscent of the Carter years in the late 70's. Welcome to my world, kiddos.

No it isn't. I know I'm not of that age, but no... it isn't. This is a distribution issue, not a political embargo by OPEC. The gasoline is here, ready to get to the gas stations.

 

[TorontoGold]

No it isn't. I know I'm not of that age, but no... it isn't. This is a distribution issue, not a political embargo by OPEC. The gasoline is here, ready to get to the gas stations.

Inflation isn't even close to what it was then. LOL

The gas fumes from filling the plastic bags is causing them to hallucinate.

 

[NorthDakota]

Inflation isn't even close to what it was then. LOL

The gas fumes from filling the plastic bags is causing them to hallucinate.

I'm not an inflation expert by any means but i think its gone up like 50% in the last month.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm not an inflation expert by any means but i think its gone up like 50% in the last month.

Not even remotely close lmao https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/consumer-price-index-april-2021.html

Up 4.2%

 

[drayer54]

Dems trying to shrug off the inflation problems is as funny as the lib media zooming past the border, gas pumps, Israel, job report, inflation, and more to stare down the crisis of our day: Liz Cheney.

You don't have to look far to find surging prices, whether it be corn, gas, steel, homes, lumber, food, energy bills or more. It's a real problem and one that has blown up in recent months.

 

[NorthDakota]

Not even remotely close lmao https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/consumer-price-index-april-2021.html

Up 4.2%

Can you do math?

 

[GowerND11]

Dems trying to shrug off the inflation problems is as funny as the lib media zooming past the border, gas pumps, Israel, job report, inflation, and more to stare down the crisis of our day: Liz Cheney.

You don't have to look far to find surging prices, whether it be corn, gas, steel, homes, lumber, food, energy bills or more. It's a real problem and one that has blown up in recent months.

The job report isn't what we wanted to see, but you can still see why. Everything in the states is opening up again (good). That doesn't mean everyone is totally ready to get back into the workforce. That doesn't make them lazy or entitled. It means that some people might be questioning if it's safe to work in some of these sectors at the moment when the pandemic is still around (albeit things look really good). We also need to look at how virtual instruction is causing parents to potentially not return due to childcare.

A lot of the goods are in short supply because of the shut downs. Places are backlogged, but that doesn't mean a lot of this will be continuing forever. And I think it's funny how often people want to blame the Dems (of which I am not one), but Reps voted for how many spending bills that can be said to help with this inflation we are seeing. Only when the other guy is in office I guess...

 

[drayer54]

The job report isn't what we wanted to see, but you can still see why. Everything in the states is opening up again (good). That doesn't mean everyone is totally ready to get back into the workforce. That doesn't make them lazy or entitled. It means that some people might be questioning if it's safe to work in some of these sectors at the moment when the pandemic is still around (albeit things look really good). We also need to look at how virtual instruction is causing parents to potentially not return due to childcare.

A lot of the goods are in short supply because of the shut downs. Places are backlogged, but that doesn't mean a lot of this will be continuing forever. And I think it's funny how often people want to blame the Dems (of which I am not one), but Reps voted for how many spending bills that can be said to help with this inflation we are seeing. Only when the other guy is in office I guess...

You're getting there. Biden policies, blue-state policies, Biden economics all at play here and not exactly building back better.

 

[TorontoGold]

Can you do math?

I can, are you blind?

 

[drayer54]

Border isn't a problem at all. We're stopping them in record numbers. Stopped = Good. Amirite?

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/RepAshleyHinson/status/1392890567894487046?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

Not even remotely close lmao https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/consumer-price-index-april-2021.html

Up 4.2%

I went to buy a box of Cheerios for the wife the other day, $4.59! About three months ago it was a little under $4.00. Milk was $1.79 and is now $2.29. I'll be the first to admit that math isn't my strong suit, but if my Texas Instruments TI-2500 is still working properly both of those increases are considerably more than 4%.

 

[GowerND11]

You're getting there. Biden policies, blue-state policies, Biden economics all at play here and not exactly building back better.

Not even close, because for 3 years I was this guy.

 

[Irish#1]

The job report isn't what we wanted to see, but you can still see why. Everything in the states is opening up again (good). That doesn't mean everyone is totally ready to get back into the workforce. That doesn't make them lazy or entitled. It means that some people might be questioning if it's safe to work in some of these sectors at the moment when the pandemic is still around (albeit things look really good). We also need to look at how virtual instruction is causing parents to potentially not return due to childcare.

A lot of the goods are in short supply because of the shut downs. Places are backlogged, but that doesn't mean a lot of this will be continuing forever. And I think it's funny how often people want to blame the Dems (of which I am not one), but Reps voted for how many spending bills that can be said to help with this inflation we are seeing. Only when the other guy is in office I guess...

I think you may be mistaken about people being hesitant to return to work. I had most of my staff working remote last year from April through August. They were ready to come back to the office in June. Spoke to a couple of guys from AT&T recently who have been working from home. They are ready to get back in the office. One of my sons was told his job has been made work from home permanently. He is not a happy camper. This of course is a small sample size of about 15 people, but they are of different ages and about two thirds of them have kids in childcare or school.

I think there is the healthy mental health aspect of being around other people that gets overlooked.

 

[RDU Irish]

Not even remotely close lmao https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/12/consumer-price-index-april-2021.html

Up 4.2%

Congrats on finally winning a point. IMO - too early to spike the football - yes we HOPE prices come down after a transitory restart phase, however so many areas of our economy have thin inventory and "just in time" manufacturing that I have doubts about the global capacity to catch up. Highest we have seen in 20 years does not even nip at the heels of Carter level inflation. I don't expect it to slow down in the next 12 months as pent up pandemic demand is unleashed and the 90% of people who didn't miss a paycheck are flush with cash they can't wait to spend.

Should be interesting to see the states that are nixing the extra $300/week unemployment benefit compared to those maintaining it. I expect impressive job growth in the less subsidized areas.

Also won't take many more ransomware attacks on infrastructure to prompt hoarding everywhere. Good time to revisit the "Preppers" thread.

 

[drayer54]

Not even close, because for 3 years I was this guy.

It's red-state governors fixing the unemployment benefit problem. It's red states pushing schools to open. How many votes did the cash flood blue priority 'American Rescue Plan' pork bill get the GOP? Look at commodity prices since then. What event coincided with the border surge on or about Jan 20? Nothing will reassure our allies abroad more than Biden's CIA woke video series. Biden owns this crap and the problems his admin has created.

 

[drayer54]

Congrats on finally winning a point. IMO - too early to spike the football - yes we HOPE prices come down after a transitory restart phase, however so many areas of our economy have thin inventory and "just in time" manufacturing that I have doubts about the global capacity to catch up. Highest we have seen in 20 years does not even nip at the heels of Carter level inflation. I don't expect it to slow down in the next 12 months as pent up pandemic demand is unleashed and the 90% of people who didn't miss a paycheck are flush with cash they can't wait to spend.

Should be interesting to see the states that are nixing the extra $300/week unemployment benefit compared to those maintaining it. I expect impressive job growth in the less subsidized areas.

Also won't take many more ransomware attacks on infrastructure to prompt hoarding everywhere. Good time to revisit the "Preppers" thread.

Hard to grow fast from ~3% unemployment rates. People moving isn't the only indicator that red states are better.
https://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

 

[NorthDakota]

Congrats on finally winning a point. IMO - too early to spike the football - yes we HOPE prices come down after a transitory restart phase, however so many areas of our economy have thin inventory and "just in time" manufacturing that I have doubts about the global capacity to catch up. Highest we have seen in 20 years does not even nip at the heels of Carter level inflation. I don't expect it to slow down in the next 12 months as pent up pandemic demand is unleashed and the 90% of people who didn't miss a paycheck are flush with cash they can't wait to spend.

Should be interesting to see the states that are nixing the extra $300/week unemployment benefit compared to those maintaining it. I expect impressive job growth in the less subsidized areas.

Also won't take many more ransomware attacks on infrastructure to prompt hoarding everywhere. Good time to revisit the "Preppers" thread.

Except he didn't win the point.

March 2021 inflation: 2.6%
April 2021 inflation: 4.2%

 

[TorontoGold]

Congrats on finally winning a point. IMO - too early to spike the football - yes we HOPE prices come down after a transitory restart phase, however so many areas of our economy have thin inventory and "just in time" manufacturing that I have doubts about the global capacity to catch up. Highest we have seen in 20 years does not even nip at the heels of Carter level inflation. I don't expect it to slow down in the next 12 months as pent up pandemic demand is unleashed and the 90% of people who didn't miss a paycheck are flush with cash they can't wait to spend.

Should be interesting to see the states that are nixing the extra $300/week unemployment benefit compared to those maintaining it. I expect impressive job growth in the less subsidized areas.

Also won't take many more ransomware attacks on infrastructure to prompt hoarding everywhere. Good time to revisit the "Preppers" thread.

I take them when I can get them.

Of course, I'm not pro-inflation by any means. It's just not a surprise to anyone with a working knowledge of monetary policy and where the markets are at that it's happening. It would have happened under literally any person or political party.

I wish there was a dashboard or data set that you could look at for job postings and median wage offered to see if a place with higher wage offering's is going to see a better recovery in employment levels than a lesser area. This would help measure the impact of - I don't feel safe vs I'm not working for $7HR at Olive Garden.

 

[RDU Irish]

Except he didn't win the point.

March 2021 inflation: 2.6%
April 2021 inflation: 4.2%

I don't know anyone that looks at it that way. Would be ridiculous to say "Inflation doubled!" in a hyperbolic way if it went from 0.1% to 0.2%. Biggest spike in ages and likely to be sustained for a while but you are playing liberal games of hysteria headlines by phrasing as a 50% increase.

But you are technically correct so I will only give Toronto half credit (still a record score for him in my book).