Biden Presidency

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As people age they get less sharp in some ways but accrue Wisdom and knowledge. Great discoveries are made by people in their 20's or 30's. In some ways Biden is less quick than he was 10 years ago. The same can be said of anyone over 30. In other ways Biden has grown/accrued knowledge/wisdom.

What is obvious to anyone with a medical background is he doesn't have dementia or alzheimers. That sticks out in obvious ways. Biden goes off on the same tangents and stops to avoid stuttering like he did 10 or 20 years ago. What he does do now is shut up and let his opponents flip out about Green Eggs and Ham or Tucker have a melt down about brown people. He has gained the ability to shut up and it is music to my ears.

I also expect him to age better over the next 4 years than Trump just based on diet, physical activity, and sleep habits.
 

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While I found it one of the most insane suggestions ever, Trump suggested that maybe they should study the effects of injecting bleach to help beat COVID. He never told people to actually do it however. It still was a fairly irresponsible thing to even publicly suggest.
 

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You're right. It was inject bleach, and strong light in the lungs. Everyone knows doing it the other way around would be wrong.

Why don't you provide us that quote and a link to it or the YouTube video where he said to inject bleach. Should be easy to find if he actually said that.
 

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Due to the vagaries of the electoral college the partisan advantage vis a vis the popular vote flips from time to time (Kerry almost won the EC despite losing the popular vote) because if this tracking the popular vote is more accurate in terms of where things are trending (like tracking yards for/against. 2012 ND was undefeated but advanced stats had them barely top 10).

Millenials may trend more conservative, but consider 25 and 35 year old vote identically. This is very odd. People tend to make a Pepsi vs coke delineation between the parties after their 1st 2 elections. People who came of age under eisenhower vote more republican than those in the age of Kennedey. Reagan is really the last president that had a positive partisan effect for Republicans. Those people are 50+. Clinton had a positive impact for dem branding, GWB was awful for repub branding, Obama loved by the young, Trump hated by young voters.

Additionally the country gets more college educated and less white over time. This crushes the republican base. Under 40 repubs additionally believe in climate change and are more open to government involvement in the economy.

I'm of 2 minds of where this can go. Throughout our history we tend to have one party dominate with either a flip to the other or a contentious period of polarization. It was Dem vs Federalist. The Federalists got on the wrong side of immigration, lost their leader to a duel and fell apart. Then it was the dems vs. The whigs. The Whigs were torn apart by divisions on Slavery. The repubs dominated from the civil war through Grant's presidency. Then the Gilded age was really a hyper partisan time with no consensus. Republicans came to dominate from 1900 till Hoover (Wilson won but due to a split repub vote) The Dems really dominated up till Reagan after the Depression.

Every repub president offered a slightly moderate version of the new deal/was ok with big government. Then with Reagan came a small government/Republican consensus. Even Clinton was a moderate caretaker of the Reagan consensus. Since 2000 we've been trending towards a Gilded era style polarization. The question is what is the new consensus and do we get another 20 year era of a New Deal or Reaganomic consensus. It seems there is a big government consensus coming and the question is whether the R's adapt or are happy being a dominant regional party

Just curious where you are getting this information and what age is it where one "comes of age"?
 

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Biden is too old to have early onset anyway. My grandpa had an early onset dimentia, i think it requires you to be in under 65 or something...which Biden hasn't been for many moons

Can you imagine the crap storm Dems would incur if something official was announced? Nominating someone suffering a mental disorder?

Correct early onset dementia is defined as age 65 or under. For clarification, dementia is a product of Alzheimer's. Biden is more likely suffering from Alzheimer's given the symptoms he displays. No one has officially come out stated Biden is declining mentally and don't expect it unless something drastic happens. Yet the signs are there whether one wants to admit it or not.
 

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Yes. Speaking of bases, the former guy told people to inject bleach in their lungs to cure covid. Please explain why I should be more concerned about a President who peeks at some talking points during a press conference than a guy who ad libs deadly medical advice during the height of a global pandemic.

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Yes. Speaking of bases, the former guy told people to inject bleach in their lungs to cure covid. Please explain why I should be more concerned about a President who peeks at some talking points during a press conference than a guy who ad libs deadly medical advice during the height of a global pandemic.

This never happened, and my opinion of Biden and his dementia isn't baseless. Not even close. The guy had a CHEAT SHEET with reporters' names and pictures on it and it told him who to call on. It was embarrassing. I don't know how Jill Biden and the rest of her family sleep at night.
 

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As people age they get less sharp in some ways but accrue Wisdom and knowledge. Great discoveries are made by people in their 20's or 30's. In some ways Biden is less quick than he was 10 years ago. The same can be said of anyone over 30. In other ways Biden has grown/accrued knowledge/wisdom.

What is obvious to anyone with a medical background is he doesn't have dementia or alzheimers. That sticks out in obvious ways. Biden goes off on the same tangents and stops to avoid stuttering like he did 10 or 20 years ago. What he does do now is shut up and let his opponents flip out about Green Eggs and Ham or Tucker have a melt down about brown people. He has gained the ability to shut up and it is music to my ears.

I also expect him to age better over the next 4 years than Trump just based on diet, physical activity, and sleep habits.


My daughter is a nurse and also has a masters in public health. For several years, she ran clinical trials for Alzheimer's and dementia patients. My father in law had both. We've had a lot of conversations on these subjects. While I am in no way shape or form an expert, I have a little insight in this area.

It's only natural that people accrue knowledge as they age. You continue to do this through your life until you die. Yet the retention of the knowledge becomes less as you age. It's also proven that you don't retain things you learn nearly as well when you're older than when you're younger. That's why older people remember a lot of their early life and can't remember what they had for breakfast the day before. It doesn't matter if you're the equivalent of an Einstein and accumulated vast amounts of knowledge. If you're declining mentally it's tough to use that knowledge if you can't remember it. Going off on the same tangents is also a classic sign of Alzheimer's. He shuts up because he loses his train of thought. As far as aging better, you missed the target again. Biden is 4 years older than Trump which puts him at a disadvantage. Yet the biggest key here is Trump is no longer President and Biden is. All you have to do is look at before and after pictures of past presidents to see what that job does to someone. He may eat better than Trump, but he's not going to get more sleep than Trump. I don't wish ill health on anyone, but you really need to take off the rose colored glasses.
 

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Everyone goes to their own trough, but how is yours any better? Especially when you spout off about how everyone is being deluded by liberal hack journalism while you saturate this board with generalities like “the left thinks racism is cool when it’s used against whites”. I think I’d rather distrust your perspective when this is how you frame arguments.

If Republicans halted the President's appointments unless they were white males, would you still distrust the argument?
 

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My daughter is a nurse and also has a masters in public health. For several years, she ran clinical trials for Alzheimer's and dementia patients. My father in law had both. We've had a lot of conversations on these subjects. While I am in no way shape or form an expert, I have a little insight in this area.

It's only natural that people accrue knowledge as they age. You continue to do this through your life until you die. Yet the retention of the knowledge becomes less as you age. It's also proven that you don't retain things you learn nearly as well when you're older than when you're younger. That's why older people remember a lot of their early life and can't remember what they had for breakfast the day before. It doesn't matter if you're the equivalent of an Einstein and accumulated vast amounts of knowledge. If you're declining mentally it's tough to use that knowledge if you can't remember it. Going off on the same tangents is also a classic sign of Alzheimer's. He shuts up because he loses his train of thought. As far as aging better, you missed the target again. Biden is 4 years older than Trump which puts him at a disadvantage. Yet the biggest key here is Trump is no longer President and Biden is. All you have to do is look at before and after pictures of past presidents to see what that job does to someone. He may eat better than Trump, but he's not going to get more sleep than Trump. I don't wish ill health on anyone, but you really need to take off the rose colored glasses.

Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV): “In the two meetings I was in with the president, he was as sharp as a tack.”

Senator Todd Toung (R-IN): “I visited with him in the Oval Office, and he seemed well-prepared and well-briefed for the meeting.”

Senator Todd Moran (R-KS): “My experience in that one setting was that the president performed well . . . the president didn’t rely on his staff or the vice president for information.“

Hmmm who to believe? Three Republican Senators from blood red states who recently met face-to-face with President Biden or an internet troll whose daughter went to nursing school. This is a tough one!
 

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Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV): “In the two meetings I was in with the president, he was as sharp as a tack.”

Senator Todd Toung (R-IN): “I visited with him in the Oval Office, and he seemed well-prepared and well-briefed for the meeting.”

Senator Todd Moran (R-KS): “My experience in that one setting was that the president performed well . . . the president didn’t rely on his staff or the vice president for information.“

Hmmm who to believe? Three Republican Senators from blood red states who recently met face-to-face with President Biden or an internet troll whose daughter went to nursing school. This is a tough one!

That's good news. Definitely prefer Biden over the alternative
 

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Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV): “In the two meetings I was in with the president, he was as sharp as a tack.”

Senator Todd Toung (R-IN): “I visited with him in the Oval Office, and he seemed well-prepared and well-briefed for the meeting.”

Senator Todd Moran (R-KS): “My experience in that one setting was that the president performed well . . . the president didn’t rely on his staff or the vice president for information.“

Hmmm who to believe? Three Republican Senators from blood red states who recently met face-to-face with President Biden or an internet troll whose daughter went to nursing school. This is a tough one!

I guess you missed the part about her having a masters in public health and directed clinical trials on Alzheimer and Dementia patients for several years, but carry on.
 

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Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV): “In the two meetings I was in with the president, he was as sharp as a tack.”

Senator Todd Toung (R-IN): “I visited with him in the Oval Office, and he seemed well-prepared and well-briefed for the meeting.”

Senator Todd Moran (R-KS): “My experience in that one setting was that the president performed well . . . the president didn’t rely on his staff or the vice president for information.“

Hmmm who to believe? Three Republican Senators from blood red states who recently met face-to-face with President Biden or an internet troll whose daughter went to nursing school. This is a tough one!

Yeah, but dementia. I'm sure Biden will army generals and former staff lining up outside of (fake news) media HQ's offering interviews about how he doesn't even read the PDB.
 

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Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV): “In the two meetings I was in with the president, he was as sharp as a tack.”

Senator Todd Toung (R-IN): “I visited with him in the Oval Office, and he seemed well-prepared and well-briefed for the meeting.”

Senator Todd Moran (R-KS): “My experience in that one setting was that the president performed well . . . the president didn’t rely on his staff or the vice president for information.“

Hmmm who to believe? Three Republican Senators from blood red states who recently met face-to-face with President Biden or an internet troll whose daughter went to nursing school. This is a tough one!

Nothing is as it seems on politics. Could be they prefer Biden over the current alternative, Kamala Harris.
 

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Nothing is as it seems on politics. Could be they prefer Biden over the current alternative, Kamala Harris.

This is where I'm at. I don't care if Klain feeds him applesauce and makes the decisions. Harris is dangerously unqualified and terrible.
 

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This bill in Georgia is some wild shit. GQP pulling out all the stops. Illegal to give someone waiting in line to vote food or water is my favorite. That's star spangled awesome, right there. That's what it's all about.

Meh, back to pearl clutching over Dr. Seuss books no one has ever heard of.
 

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This bill in Georgia is some wild shit. GQP pulling out all the stops. Illegal to give someone waiting in line to vote food or water is my favorite. That's star spangled awesome, right there. That's what it's all about.

Meh, back to pearl clutching over Dr. Seuss books no one has ever heard of.

Yes, I don’t get the no food or water rule.
 

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Senator Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV): “In the two meetings I was in with the president, he was as sharp as a tack.”

Senator Todd Toung (R-IN): “I visited with him in the Oval Office, and he seemed well-prepared and well-briefed for the meeting.”

Senator Todd Moran (R-KS): “My experience in that one setting was that the president performed well . . . the president didn’t rely on his staff or the vice president for information.“

Hmmm who to believe? Three Republican Senators from blood red states who recently met face-to-face with President Biden or an internet troll whose daughter went to nursing school. This is a tough one!

1. Those senators aren't health professionals.

2. We don't know the nature of those meetings, how long they lasted, what Biden actually needed to do, etc.

3. The entire world has seen him slip up on several instances and it had nothing to do with a lifelong stutter.

4. The Biden campaign said a hard no to both candidates submitting to a drug test before the debates. Can't imagine why...

5. We do know the guy was kept in his basement all summer instead of campaigning, and that he needed a cheat sheet yesterday at the podium to get through his FIRST "press conference."

But really aside from that stuff, as Uncle Joe would say, "Come on, man."
 

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1. Those senators aren't health professionals.

2. We don't know the nature of those meetings, how long they lasted, what Biden actually needed to do, etc.

3. The entire world has seen him slip up on several instances and it had nothing to do with a lifelong stutter.

4. The Biden campaign said a hard no to both candidates submitting to a drug test before the debates. Can't imagine why...

5. We do know the guy was kept in his basement all summer instead of campaigning, and that he needed a cheat sheet yesterday at the podium to get through his FIRST "press conference."

But really aside from that stuff, as Uncle Joe would say, "Come on, man."

But a couple dudes on a football forum are medical experts?

Remember when Donny showed up too late to be tested when it was reasonable to assume he was symptomatic with COVID? I guess he told the virus to stand back and stand by....
 

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I'm assuming they don't want people using food or beverages to persuade voters.

You assume wrong. Electioneering is already prohibited at polling sites. They’re planning to shut down polling locations in predominantly black areas to drive up wait times and then starve people in hopes that they’ll quit and go home.
 

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1. Those senators aren't health professionals.

2. We don't know the nature of those meetings, how long they lasted, what Biden actually needed to do, etc.

3. The entire world has seen him slip up on several instances and it had nothing to do with a lifelong stutter.

4. The Biden campaign said a hard no to both candidates submitting to a drug test before the debates. Can't imagine why...

5. We do know the guy was kept in his basement all summer instead of campaigning, and that he needed a cheat sheet yesterday at the podium to get through his FIRST "press conference."

But really aside from that stuff, as Uncle Joe would say, "Come on, man."

1. I assume you are?

2. Weak. Keep moving those goal posts pal.

3. The entire world watched Biden maintain his composure as a covid-riddled, coked up orangutan screeched at him for an hour an half in the first debate. Most impressive thing I’ve seen in awhile.

4. Man. Woman. Person. TV. Camera. Polish. Leppy. Jackass.

5. Trump used a cheat sheet when he denied extorting the Ukrainian Prime Minister into announcing a fraudulent investigation into the Bidens/Burisma. I assume that makes him senile and a crook. The true heir to the Reagan-Nixon legacy.
 

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You assume wrong. Electioneering is already prohibited at polling sites. They’re planning to shut down polling locations in predominantly black areas to drive up wait times and then starve people in hopes that they’ll quit and go home.

"(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

Seems perfectly reasonable, seems to clarify the electioneering law to forbid soliciting votes through providing food or beverages to people in line. If I had a red food cart, and I'm inside wearing a red shirt, offering people in line cheesesteaks, are you okay with that?

I can't even bother to address the "starve" thing because it's an absurd point. If someone is worried about eating and drinking while in line, they are fully capable of bringing food and beverages. We used to get in line for football games at like 5AM, and sat in line until they let us in at 1PM. I'd bring food and drinks. It wasn't that difficult.

If the concern is "they are going to shut down polling locations," then complain about that. That would be an infinitely more valid concern than me not being allowed to go up and down the line giving people food and drinks.
 

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I'm assuming they don't want people using food or beverages to persuade voters.

I get requiring ID's and keeping Fulton County in check after their shady crap last cycle, but the food and beverage thing is new to me. It makes more sense when you read the bill and not the media coverage.

"(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables 1877 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

The irony of people supporting HR1 and acting like election integrity is the end of the world is hilarious and tragic to me.
 

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1. Those senators aren't health professionals.

2. We don't know the nature of those meetings, how long they lasted, what Biden actually needed to do, etc.

3. The entire world has seen him slip up on several instances and it had nothing to do with a lifelong stutter.

4. The Biden campaign said a hard no to both candidates submitting to a drug test before the debates. Can't imagine why...

5. We do know the guy was kept in his basement all summer instead of campaigning, and that he needed a cheat sheet yesterday at the podium to get through his FIRST "press conference."

But really aside from that stuff, as Uncle Joe would say, "Come on, man."

This is my favorite thing to come out of this press conference. OH NOES HE USED NOTES DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE!! HOW DARE HE.

Give me a break, people use notes for press conferences ALL. THE. TIME. To start calling them a "cheat sheet" might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
 
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