Anyone Watching "Walking Dead" on AMC?

[GreyWorm]

Negan was a weak villian. He seems like an idiot. Part of being a great villian is being smart and crazy, not just crazy. The guy sounds like he fell off a bar stool.

Negan reminds me of Wooly.

 

[GBdomer]

Negan was a weak villian. He seems like an idiot. Part of being a great villian is being smart and crazy, not just crazy. The guy sounds like he fell off a bar stool.

What? Couldn't disagree with you anymore. Negan freaking killed it, guy beat someone with a barbwire baseball bat. How does that speak weak? Plus look at all the grown men he has working for him. How does that show weak?

 

[ulukinatme]

Negan was a weak villian. He seems like an idiot. Part of being a great villian is being smart and crazy, not just crazy. The guy sounds like he fell off a bar stool.

I couldn't disagree with you more...

His part was fantastic acting.

I'm with johnny, the actor that played Negan did a pretty good job. Negan is a super charismatic, but ultimately pure evil character. For the most part Jeffery Dean Morgan succeeded in bringing the comic character to life there, and they did a great job recreating the same scene from the comic books with everyone lined up on their knees with someone meeting their end at the hands of Lucille. Negan is going to blow the Governor out of the water, Koon. He's incredibly powerful, and if you came away thinking he was weak I'm not sure what to tell you.

That said, I don't understand the negativity in the thread. I'll agree that it wasn't the best finale, probably because the first hour of the show was drawn out and it certainly felt more saturated with commercials than usual...but I was most looking forward to the last 10 minutes of the show anyway and I don't think they disappointed. The last 10 minutes was pretty intense. The Negan and Savior conflict is only beginning, I hope they do it right.

 

[ulukinatme]

Negan reminds me of Wooly.

Robert Kirkman said on the Talking Dead that Negan was based loosely on this guy "wooly" that he knew...

 

[phork]

I like the talk on Talking Dead about what if it was Negan waking up in a hospital bed from the start. Then this "Rick" guy from that perspective is evil. There is no more good/evil in this world. Its survive. And in a world with no rules the objective is surviving any way you can you need a hellaciously strong character to coral all those people.

My money is on Abe. Can live without him. Its not Rick or Carl, because of the eye comment, its not the girls. So its Glen, Aaron, Abe, Eugene or Daryl. You can live without Abe or Aaron IMO.

 

[gkIrish]

Pissed we got a cliffhanger like that. Just stupid.

I'd say odds are:

50% Daryl
25% Abraham
15% Glen
5% Eugene
5% Aaron

0% chance it's a woman because I don't think Negan would have called her champ.

0% chance it's Rick for obvious reasons.
0% chance it's Carl because Negan wouldn't have threatened to take his other eye out.

I'm going to be SUPER pissed if it's Daryl because he would be killed off with basically no air time in this episode. He would go out like a bitch on his knees and that's the opposite of what Daryl is.

I'm fine with it being Abe because he went out like a bad ass standing up to Negan at least.

 

[phork]

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[gkIrish]

StorySync slip up via reddit!?

Hmmm.

I hope so. I just like Daryl too much..

 

[koonja]

I really think it's Eugene. He had a moment before he went in the RV. He was finally accepted. I don't think that was for nothing.

 

[ulukinatme]

StorySync slip up via reddit!?

It would be interesting if it turns out to be Abraham. I hope it's not, I'd rather someone else die. Abraham did get quite a bit of screen time tonight between the driving and scenes with Sasha and Eugene.

Interesting comic note regarding Abraham, and not much of a spoiler since they switched who took the bullet/arrow, but Denise's death was supposed to be Abraham's. In the comic Abraham was talking to Eugene after they find the bullet making place, they're being buddy buddy again, and Abraham took a bullet to the head by the Saviors mid-speech, unexpected like the way Denise died. Denise effectively switched spots with Abraham there, and I doubt Abraham would die in that exact same way in the future, so I don't think it's a spoiler or anything to mention that.

 

[ulukinatme]

Who the heck are the guys on the horses?


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Hilltoppers.

I think it was someone else, not the Hilltoppers. Don't want to spoil anything though.

 

[ulukinatme]

Kind of funny, people are beating up Hardwick about the cliffhanger and the episode in general (Not to mention the commercials). He's getting pretty defensive, it's kind of funny. You can see the video on his Facebook. Hardwick annoys me...with his bullshit hyping up every episode, and the way he pronounces "gif."

 

[JTLA]

It was Glen you mopes. This show has sucked all season.

 

[woolybug25]

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I'm not entirely sure that they could have gotten enough info about who it was to "leak" the identity. In Talking Dead, they made it a point that no one in the cast knows who was killed. I personally think they did that in order to limit "leaks" but also to hedge against backlash. If they see that public perception of the identity has a certain outcome, then they still have time to change the person for maximum impact.

It was Glen you mopes. This show has sucked all season.

This is widely held by pretty much everyone, as the best season to date. If you truly dislike the show, hated the season and still felt the need to watch it in it's entirety and post about it... then who really is the mope here?

 

[woolybug25]

Pissed we got a cliffhanger like that. Just stupid.

I'd say odds are:

50% Daryl
25% Abraham
15% Glen
5% Eugene
5% Aaron

0% chance it's a woman because I don't think Negan would have called her champ.

0% chance it's Rick for obvious reasons.
0% chance it's Carl because Negan wouldn't have threatened to take his other eye out.

I'm going to be SUPER pissed if it's Daryl because he would be killed off with basically no air time in this episode. He would go out like a bitch on his knees and that's the opposite of what Daryl is.

I'm fine with it being Abe because he went out like a bad ass standing up to Negan at least.

I'm going with:

20% Daryl
20% Abraham
50% Glen
8% Eugene
2% Aaron

 

[gkIrish]

I'm going with:

20% Daryl
20% Abraham
50% Glen
8% Eugene
2% Aaron

The more I think about it today and after watching Talking Dead, I feel like Glen is the most likely candidate. On Talking Dead they were talking about season 7 will be driven by the victim's death and how everyone reacts to it. I don't know that Daryl dying would have a "plot-moving" effect on the other characters. Glen would have that effect.

Additionally, I really don't think they would kill of Daryl with no screen time, without a resolution to the Dwight situation, etc. Also, considering he was on Talking Dead, I think this is another way of the producers trying to trick us into believing he was dead.

 

[gkIrish]

I'm not entirely sure that they could have gotten enough info about who it was to "leak" the identity. In Talking Dead, they made it a point that no one in the cast knows who was killed. I personally think they did that in order to limit "leaks" but also to hedge against backlash. If they see that public perception of the identity has a certain outcome, then they still have time to change the person for maximum impact.

Are we sure this is true? There were reports that the entire cast was in tears during filming of this episode because of the "death" IIRC.

 

[woolybug25]

Are we sure this is true? There were reports that the entire cast was in tears during filming of this episode because of the "death" IIRC.

I'm sure. They said it multiple times on Talking Dead. You might have mistaken the "entire cast in tears" with the scene itself. They filmed that scene for 15 hours straight. They talked a lot about how emotionally draining it was and how hard it was to stay in character (crying, snot, etc) for that long. But they made it quite clear that they don't know the identity.

if it makes you feel any better i still don’t know who got killed and it’s been like 6 months since i read the script #whoisit

— chandler riggs (@chandlerriggs) April 4, 2016

And considering that Carl was one of the people that was lined up in front of Negan, that likely means nobody else knows either. It was bad enough that the writers had to make us wait seven months, but the fact that they made the actors wait that long too is just cold.

Chandler Riggs doesn't even know who Negan killed

 

[ulukinatme]

Are we sure this is true? There were reports that the entire cast was in tears during filming of this episode because of the "death" IIRC.

It's possible they played that up a bit to get people to watch, or maybe the cast was in tears because they knew one of them would be gone (Even if they didn't know who).

This is widely held by pretty much everyone, as the best season to date. If you truly dislike the show, hated the season and still felt the need to watch it in it's entirety and post about it... then who really is the mope here?

Everybody? I don't know about that. Perusing other boards you see a lot of people turned off to the whole Wolves story line and Alexandria. The writers can be a bit lazy at times, and honestly when they do try and stray from the comic material they often fall flat. The best scenes and story arcs are often just stuff they're reproducing from the comics. That said, I don't have any personal feelings toward the show one way or the other at this point. At times I dislike the writing, but I enjoy moments like the Negan introduction. I've come to grips with the fact that the show isn't always great, but I watch so little TV that I can't be too critical...and I enjoy zombie shows/movies I guess. Whether the show truly tanks or not, I'm in for the long haul at this point it seems.

 

[Irishnuke]

People are only pissed because they didn't see who died. I get it. I wanted to see it too but the cliffhanger doesn't bother me. I don't think it's Daryl just because he already looked half dead to begin with. I'll go with Glenn because I think it's a more emotional death than Abraham would be. Btw, where is Jesus in all of this? Did he stay in Alexandria or go back to the Hilltop? I thought he would have a bigger role, basically becoming one of the main characters. Maybe that will come next season.

 

[IrishinTN]

I think Jesus went back to hilltop and him, hilltop and the horse guys (I am just guessing here) are from another haven that will get more play next season too.

I think the hug between Abraham and Eugene signifies one of them is gone. My money in on one of them.

 

[gkIrish]

I think Jesus went back to hilltop and him, hilltop and the horse guys (I am just guessing here) are from another haven that will get more play next season too.

I think the hug between Abraham and Eugene signifies one of them is gone. My money in on one of them.

I was just thinking the same thing. I think we were supposed to think that was for Eugene but Abraham got killed instead. Maybe it signifies that Eugene is now a "survivor."

I will believe anything at this point that points to Daryl being alive.

 

[ndfi78]

They didn't show who died because that wasn't the point. The point was introducing Negan, and show how fucking much Rick underestimated him.

Also complaining about a cliffhanger on TWD is just dumb. It's Kirkman, of course there is going to be a cliffhanger.

 

[JTLA]

I'm not entirely sure that they could have gotten enough info about who it was to "leak" the identity. In Talking Dead, they made it a point that no one in the cast knows who was killed. I personally think they did that in order to limit "leaks" but also to hedge against backlash. If they see that public perception of the identity has a certain outcome, then they still have time to change the person for maximum impact.



This is widely held by pretty much everyone, as the best season to date. If you truly dislike the show, hated the season and still felt the need to watch it in it's entirety and post about it... then who really is the mope here?

LOLLLLLL - Who has widely held this? You are out of your mind.
The user score on Metacritic is 8.1 for season 1, vs 6.2 for this season
Rotten tomatoes score drops from 91% positive to 82% in this season
IMDB users rated this episode 7.3, which is the 2nd lowest of all time.

As for critics, I'll let the LA Times sum it up best...
As 'Walking Dead' heads toward a season finale, it's also stumbling off an expectations cliff - LA Times

Look, I'm sorry for being such a jackass. I can promise you this, that was terrible writing. And that was the last episode of this show I will watch. So you are correct on that accord. I'm just so dissappointed.

And it was Glenn. Stop arguing about this. I know for a fact it was Glenn.
Glenn is dead. It's not 40% or 3:1 or maybe sort of.

It's Glenn. Glenn is dead.

Stop it.

 

[JTLA]

Here's another good review.

The Walking Dead season 6 finale: "Last Day on Earth" is the worst episode the show has ever done - Vox

 

[woolybug25]

I guess I was just going over what everyone says on Talking Dead, people I know that watch the show, etc. Sorry if my "widely held" comment touched you in your private region, but take a chill pill.

Unless you're a writer for the damn show, then you don't know anything 100%. It's as simple as that. I think it was Glenn too, but I'm not big enough of an ass to come on here and act like anyone that wants to discuss the possibilities is an idiot.

What I do find comical, is that a show with such shitty writing, still captivates you to post and yell at everyone on a football forum about it. That you care so much as to look up the Rotten Tomatoe reviews of a show that is so clearly in the throes of its worst season. What does that say about you? I suppose we should all shut up, keep our opinions to ourselves and close the thread. Because you have clearly shown yourself as the definitive word on all things Walking Dead.

Bravo...

 

[irishknight35]

Here's another good review.

The Walking Dead season 6 finale: "Last Day on Earth" is the worst episode the show has ever done - Vox

Dude you love this show way too much. You need to give TWD some space. Your suffocating TWD with your aggressive love letters and sending of the candy grams. TWD knows you love it, but TWD just isn't that into you. Sorry bro.

 

[gkIrish]

And it was Glenn. Stop arguing about this. I know for a fact it was Glenn.
Glenn is dead. It's not 40% or 3:1 or maybe sort of.

It's Glenn. Glenn is dead.

Stop it.

Based on what? The comic? That's literally the only basis you could have for your opinion. You may end up being right, but it's certainly not a "fact." The show has not stuck with the comics in every way. Andrea is still alive in the comics if I've heard correctly.

 

[ulukinatme]

Based on what? The comic? That's literally the only basis you could have for your opinion. You may end up being right, but it's certainly not a "fact." The show has not stuck with the comics in every way. Andrea is still alive in the comics if I've heard correctly.

This. I could very well see them trying to throw the comic readers a curve ball (Like they do on occasion) and make it NOT be Glenn that gets the wrong end of Lucille. Part of me does think it could be Abraham for that very reason, and the fact they switched his death with Denise's a few episodes ago. That said, I hope they stick with the original story line and kill Glenn. Killing Abraham doesn't make as big of an impact, killing Glenn would touch off more fans and from a story perspective it would affect more people I think.

 

[GBdomer]

LOLLLLLL - Who has widely held this? You are out of your mind.
The user score on Metacritic is 8.1 for season 1, vs 6.2 for this season
Rotten tomatoes score drops from 91% positive to 82% in this season
IMDB users rated this episode 7.3, which is the 2nd lowest of all time.

As for critics, I'll let the LA Times sum it up best...
As 'Walking Dead' heads toward a season finale, it's also stumbling off an expectations cliff - LA Times

Look, I'm sorry for being such a jackass. I can promise you this, that was terrible writing. And that was the last episode of this show I will watch. So you are correct on that accord. I'm just so dissappointed.

And it was Glenn. Stop arguing about this. I know for a fact it was Glenn.
Glenn is dead. It's not 40% or 3:1 or maybe sort of.

It's Glenn. Glenn is dead.

Stop it.

Why the fuck did you feel the need to post this then? Couldn't just rep him? I really hope you are wrong but why would you spoil this for everyone? Hope you are banned for life