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Here we go again. It’s just like the border, right? Just because you see headlines all the time doesn’t mean it is really happening?

These disturbed trans kids killing in Iowa, Nashville, Denver x3, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, British Columbia, etc. You can do whatever you want with the data on this. The gun control lobby notoriously manipulated school shooting data with gang/drug/suicide numbers for shocks and political points. The point is that for most of these horrific shootings in schools- we are seeing gender identity issues. And you want to talk about under representation? You can’t deny that given the small portion of the population that these trans kids make up and the amount of school shooting headlines they’ve made is not alarming at least. Sounds like this kid was active in the online trans hate community similar to the Kirk shooter.

Have you looked at the stats? I have and there is no trans shooter epidemic. Stats > coloring books
 

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Have you looked at the stats? I have and there is no trans shooter epidemic. Stats > coloring books
Again, you can find the coloring book of your choice with whatever left wing stats person from your preferred media person that all the gun persons were the same. You can pretend we don’t have a trans person violence problem.
 

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Again, you can find the coloring book of your choice with whatever left wing stats person from your preferred media person that all the gun persons were the same. You can pretend we don’t have a trans person violence problem.

Stats aren’t Left or Right, otherwise you’d be able to find something to support this trend that isn’t just cherry picked events.
 

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Calling gang violence a mass shooting is retarded - and the primary driver of watering down school shooting data. So are you dishonest or retarded Toronto?
 

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Calling gang violence a mass shooting is retarded - and the primary driver of watering down school shooting data. So are you dishonest or retarded Toronto?
Show the data? How fucking hard is it for you for you guys to even attempt to cobble together something? Did not realize ozempic also caused brain loss.
 

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Show the data? How fucking hard is it for you for you guys to even attempt to cobble together something? Did not realize ozempic also caused brain loss.
Because you are so fucking dumb and predictable that you will just attack the source and then we will go round and round. To my original point- the data doesn’t prove anything here because you can do what you want with it. I can show you ten nutbag trans kids shooting up schools and you’re like it’s not a fucking thing.
There’s shit like this everywhere, but your soy latte must have stunk onto your nose ring and have you in a shit mood today.
 

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Toronto's right. It's not an epidemic, but it sure as heck isn't a minor cold either.
 

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Because you are so fucking dumb and predictable that you will just attack the source and then we will go round and round. To my original point- the data doesn’t prove anything here because you can do what you want with it. I can show you ten nutbag trans kids shooting up schools and you’re like it’s not a fucking thing.
There’s shit like this everywhere, but your soy latte must have stunk onto your nose ring and have you in a shit mood today.

assuming these numbers are correct they’re all extraordinarily small numbers-less than one in a million for any demographic-and certainly don’t suggest that we should treat membership in any group as indicative of a tendency towards mass shootings.

Re trans issues generally, I’ve always found this a tremendously useful starting place: The Categories Were Made For Man, Not Man For The Categories
 

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Because you are so fucking dumb and predictable that you will just attack the source and then we will go round and round. To my original point- the data doesn’t prove anything here because you can do what you want with it. I can show you ten nutbag trans kids shooting up schools and you’re like it’s not a fucking thing.
There’s shit like this everywhere, but your soy latte must have stunk onto your nose ring and have you in a shit mood today.


The source? I’m looking for government agencies that are tasked with reporting these kind of stats. Go read the comments under that tweet. If you took any second to actually grab a source and not a picture that made you feel good you’d see how fucking stupid it is.

You are that dense the picture is specifying being trans as an ethnicity. Holy hell for anyone with a pulse that would be a dead tell.

Where are the sources and data. Random slop generated pictures don’t do anything but confuse idiots and the elderly.
 

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assuming these numbers are correct they’re all extraordinarily small numbers-less than one in a million for any demographic-and certainly don’t suggest that we should treat membership in any group as indicative of a tendency towards mass shootings.

Re trans issues generally, I’ve always found this a tremendously useful starting place: The Categories Were Made For Man, Not Man For The Categories
While true, that's also true for most such things. It's only a very very small percentage of any demographic group doing most bad things. It's not so much the percentage of a group who does something bad, as it's what percentage of bad things are done by members of a particular demographic? Undoubtedly, only a very tiny percentage of the LGBQT community commits such shootings, but a very high percentage of shootings in the past few years have been done by members of the LGBQT community to the point now that when one happens, most of us immediately suspect that's who the shooter will turn out to be.
 

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I mean the jokes just write themselves. You only have to be a dumb fucking moron to believe this a trend, or IE MAGA which may be a perfect circle of a venn diagram. Can’t believe the science and logic folks can’t support their positions, might be because they don’t actually believe in it lmao.

 

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You don't need to be a mathematician to understand a tiny percentage of the population is trans yet they do not represent a tiny percentage of school shooters. Two could be a statistical anomaly - we are well past that. Also talking about the straight up A-hole killing spree variety, not the parking lot drive by gang bangers, suicides or targeted solo attacks.

Even still - your kids are much more likely to drown in a pool than get shot and killed at school randomly. 28,000 high schools, one in one hundred chance of any incident - massively overweighted to areas with disproportionate gang violence and douchebaggery. Incidents outside of inner cities are fewer and far between.
 

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I don't know if this is true. Maybe some of you know more.
There are rumors that the mother in this case was an LGBTQ activist and coerced/severely pressured the boy to transition to a girl at age 12.

Do we have a deranged mother and a 'Sleepaway Camp' scenario here?
 

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I don't know if this is true. Maybe some of you know more.
There are rumors that the mother in this case was an LGBTQ activist and coerced/severely pressured the boy to transition to a girl at age 12.

Do we have a deranged mother and a 'Sleepaway Camp' scenario here?
No idea yet about the mom, but wouldn't surprise me. There's a MUCH higher percentage of trans kids in uber liberal families than in the general population (look at how many Hollywood celebrities have trans kids, e.g.). There's no genetic reason this should be. The most plausible reason by far is that it's not the kids, but the parents (usually the mom) pushing it as a sort of Munchausen by proxy sort of thing where the mom is neurotic and needs the attention and uses the child to get it.

As the saying goes, If you're 20 and think you're a different sex, you have a mental illness. If you're 6 and think you're a different sex, your mom has a mental illness.
 

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No idea yet about the mom, but wouldn't surprise me. There's a MUCH higher percentage of trans kids in uber liberal families than in the general population (look at how many Hollywood celebrities have trans kids, e.g.). There's no genetic reason this should be. The most plausible reason by far is that it's not the kids, but the parents (usually the mom) pushing it as a sort of Munchausen by proxy sort of thing where the mom is neurotic and needs the attention and uses the child to get it.

As the saying goes, If you're 20 and think you're a different sex, you have a mental illness. If you're 6 and think you're a different sex, your mom has a mental illness.

isn't it equally plausible that trans kids raised in conservative households hide it/don't come out because they fear what would happen to their family relationships if they did? Even assuming its true that liberal households have more trans kids, I'm not sure that establishes causation.
 

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isn't it equally plausible that trans kids raised in conservative households hide it/don't come out because they fear what would happen to their family relationships if they did? Even assuming its true that liberal households have more trans kids, I'm not sure that establishes causation.
Possibly, but I doubt that accounts for a very large percentage of it. It appears that neurotic moms using their children for attention is a huge part of the problem.
 

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The source? I’m looking for government agencies that are tasked with reporting these kind of stats. Go read the comments under that tweet. If you took any second to actually grab a source and not a picture that made you feel good you’d see how fucking stupid it is.

You are that dense the picture is specifying being trans as an ethnicity. Holy hell for anyone with a pulse that would be a dead tell.

Where are the sources and data. Random slop generated pictures don’t do anything but confuse idiots and the elderly.
I just grabbed the first one I saw because I knew it wouldn’t matter. You were just going to go after it if it wasn’t serving the point. How many trans kids must shoot up a school before we have a problem?
 

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I just grabbed the first one I saw because I knew it wouldn’t matter. You were just going to go after it if it wasn’t serving the point. How many trans kids must shoot up a school before we have a problem?
You grabbed the first one you saw because you never actually looked into who commits the majority of shootings and just lapped up whatever slop some random guy in India is feeding you.

I’ve said it before, take away every trans persons ability to own guns. Fuck it, they’re evil and these demonic beings, take away their guns. Would you be ok with that? Or do you want to just use them as a scape goat because it doesn’t matter how many kids are turned into Swiss cheese you can’t actually get mad at the reason why?

Still waiting on you to find anything from a government source showing trans people killing more in proportion to their share of the population. Can’t be that hard if it’s so clear and obvious.
 

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It’s been a week. The trans violence thing is still a problem.


So we’re up to 1 for the entire year so far? I said take away their guns. You don’t care about gun violence just that every year there’s like one or two trans shooters and that is the focus. There should a masked police force that goes door to door confiscating trans people and their guns. Would you support that?

Stats > coloring books.
 

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So we’re up to 1 for the entire year so far? I said take away their guns. You don’t care about gun violence just that every year there’s like one or two trans shooters and that is the focus. There should a masked police force that goes door to door confiscating trans people and their guns. Would you support that?

Stats > coloring books.
Just saying that the thing that I pointed out keeps happening that you said wasn’t happening, already happened again. And no.
 

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I can’t believe my data is so wrong, I’m sure there will be some sort of response with the correct data set. I’ve been promised it’s so clear to see. The same people who think Joe Biden created inflation, and that retreating from the world stage was a masterful gambit because it meant no more foreign intervention but changed their tune real quick are trying to chirp which sources I use. Incredible LOL. Maybe I’m just speaking with a bunch of licensed medical doctors who are too smart for me to understand.
 
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