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Fair enough. My point about them getting squeezed is 2-pronged, both to illustrate that not only are doctor salaries not necessarily as lucrative as some may assume in comparison to other professions, but that they are trending in a negative direction. This may not dissuade people from becoming doctors now, but if things get worse, it might. As far as I know big law goes up steadily like 5k every year right? There is no clear, looming reduction on your future earnings. Regardless, all doctors that I know feel government intervention will drastically exacerbate the trend in the negative direction.
So not only is it not as great currently as you people assume, it has the potential to get even worse with govt healthcare. I don't think our brightest citizens should be the ones that suffer to solve this situation. You may say the old adadge"do what you love" but that is a bit insulting. So if doctors love medicine they should just accept whatever low price compared to peers?

And yes, you can earn substantially more in you live in the sticks, but that too will be relatively reduced with universal healthcare.

Further, universal healthcare will not affect dentists like doctors. As far as i know, they normally just charge people out of pocket for service, right? So when premed students see their peers struggling in class and then making twice as much when they become dentists, after a while you "love" for a profession becomes less compelling, don't you think?
I'm not advocate for universal Healthcare. My buddy is a doctor in Brazil and left the universal system as soon as he could to serve privately insured people.

Big Law salary jumps are much more than $5k per annum. They are paying clueless baby lawyers north of $200k in major markets. My BIL is a big shot in Chicago and routinely uses intelligence slurs regarding the new hires.

With you fully on making sure doctors are compensated fairly. Otherwise the best talent will go to dentistry or other fields where they think they will be compensated better or more according to the work they are asked to do.
 

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I was in a random stranger circle of people and the shooting came up. The vast majority of people seemed to side with the shooter. I was actually a bit stunned.
 

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I was in a random stranger circle of people and the shooting came up. The vast majority of people seemed to side with the shooter. I was actually a bit stunned.
I'm not surprised. Go look at the comments anywhere. r/Conservative was trashing Ben Shapiro yesterday for trying to brow beat people about this. #freeluigi is trending all over the place. I even looked at boomer yahoo news yesterday and couldn't find anything but support for him in the comments. People are fed up.

They're going to have to let him plead insanity and offer him some sort of deal. No way they are going to find 12 New Yorkers that will convict him. And they aren't going to want an even bigger spotlight shone on this via a trial.
 

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I'm not surprised. Go look at the comments anywhere. r/Conservative was trashing Ben Shapiro yesterday for trying to brow beat people about this. #freeluigi is trending all over the place. I even looked at boomer yahoo news yesterday and couldn't find anything but support for him in the comments. People are fed up.

They're going to have to let him plead insanity and offer him some sort of deal. No way they are going to find 12 New Yorkers that will convict him. And they aren't going to want an even bigger spotlight shone on this via a trial.
If everything you say is true, why in the world would Luigi take a deal at all? Why would he not let it go to trial if there is no way they are going to find 12 New Yorkers that will convict him?
 

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Also the fact that people focus on issues that impact singular amounts of people because they can personalize it. Also pretty wild that people can't find sympathy in this, when there was cheering when a kid was protecting a car dealership and killed people lol.
 

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Also the fact that people focus on issues that impact singular amounts of people because they can personalize it. Also pretty wild that people can't find sympathy in this, when there was cheering when a kid was protecting a car dealership and killed people lol.
Anyone who cheers an idiot teenager for protecting a car dealership is an idiot. Anyone who cheers a cold blooded murder of an insurance company executive is equally idiotic.
 

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If everything you say is true, why in the world would Luigi take a deal at all? Why would he not let it go to trial if there is no way they are going to find 12 New Yorkers that will convict him?
He very well might. We shall see.
 

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Anyone who cheers an idiot teenager for protecting a car dealership is an idiot. Anyone who cheers a cold blooded murder of an insurance company executive is equally idiotic.
For one, the tonal difference in Conservative MSM with Rittenhouse and Liberal MSM with this shooting is vastly different. My interpretation of Gattaca's position is not that he's cheering it on, but that he's explaining why people aren't sympathetic. If Luigi gets out I don't think he'll get a sweet setup and embraced by the Left like Rittenhouse was with MAGA, something to take up with them since they're equally idiotic.
 

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Are you one of those tens of thousands celebrating?

I feel much more sympathy for the people that died while being denied coverage from United Healthcare than I do for Brian Thompson.

Doesn’t really answer the question

For one, the tonal difference in Conservative MSM with Rittenhouse and Liberal MSM with this shooting is vastly different. My interpretation of Gattaca's position is not that he's cheering it on, but that he's explaining why people aren't sympathetic. If Luigi gets out I don't think he'll get a sweet setup and embraced by the Left like Rittenhouse was with MAGA, something to take up with them since they're equally idiotic.
My interpretation is different. I asked him point blank if he is celebrating. He gave a deflecting answer that didn't really answer my question. I pointed it out that he didn't really answer the question. He chose to remain silent.
 

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For one, the tonal difference in Conservative MSM with Rittenhouse and Liberal MSM with this shooting is vastly different. My interpretation of Gattaca's position is not that he's cheering it on, but that he's explaining why people aren't sympathetic. If Luigi gets out I don't think he'll get a sweet setup and embraced by the Left like Rittenhouse was with MAGA, something to take up with them since they're equally idiotic.
Hes not getting out. He's a trust fund baby who murdered a guy who bootstrapped his way to the top.

Rittenhouse was an idiot who acted in self defense. This guy is a psychotic who murdered in cold blood. He's going to die in prison or a mental hospital.
 

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My interpretation is different. I asked him point blank if he is celebrating. He gave a deflecting answer that didn't really answer my question. I pointed it out that he didn't really answer the question. He chose to remain silent.
Sorry if I missed this earlier, but did the CEO actually do something illegal(besides potential insider trading) or are we just celebrating his death because he works as a CEO in a business people deem evil?
 

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I'm not surprised. Go look at the comments anywhere. r/Conservative was trashing Ben Shapiro yesterday for trying to brow beat people about this. #freeluigi is trending all over the place. I even looked at boomer yahoo news yesterday and couldn't find anything but support for him in the comments. People are fed up.

They're going to have to let him plead insanity and offer him some sort of deal. No way they are going to find 12 New Yorkers that will convict him. And they aren't going to want an even bigger spotlight shone on this via a trial.
Insanity or just plead not guilty then lay out an entire case on self defense and defending the poor and sick and seeking justice for uninsured or under insured dead. Not sure they want this going to trial.
 

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For one, the tonal difference in Conservative MSM with Rittenhouse and Liberal MSM with this shooting is vastly different. My interpretation of Gattaca's position is not that he's cheering it on, but that he's explaining why people aren't sympathetic. If Luigi gets out I don't think he'll get a sweet setup and embraced by the Left like Rittenhouse was with MAGA, something to take up with them since they're equally idiotic.
He won't be embraced by left wing media like Rittenhouse. This isn't a left vs right situation. Big media and blue check mark billionaires on both sides are the ones that are scolding people for feeling sympathetic towards him. Hmmmm wonder why?
Insanity or just plead not guilty then lay out an entire case on self defense and defending the poor and sick and seeking justice for uninsured or under insured dead. Not sure they want this going to trial.
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He won't be embraced by left wing media like Rittenhouse. This isn't a left vs right situation. Big media and blue check mark billionaires on both sides are the ones that are scolding people for feeling sympathetic towards him. Hmmmm wonder why?

Agreed

This is exactly it's laughable to ever call MSM "Leftist". They will always protect the corporate class. They will continue to look like dumb fucking morons when they think that leftwing populism would never work while watching Rightwing populism have tremendous success.
 

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Who do you think pays for the medical treatment people get who go to the hospital without insurance? At least with universal healthcare you'd get a benefit from your own tax dollars and not just other people.
Let me guess.

I said we need something in place, but I want safe guards in place to keep fraud and cost to a minimum.
 

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This is exactly it's laughable to ever call MSM "Leftist". They will always protect the corporate class. They will continue to look like dumb fucking morons when they think that leftwing populism would never work while watching Rightwing populism have tremendous success.
Why I've said for a long time that for profit 24/7 news media should be abolished. It accomplishes nothing but enrage and divide.

Both left and right news media are sides of the same shit coin.
 

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This is exactly it's laughable to ever call MSM "Leftist". They will always protect the corporate class. They will continue to look like dumb fucking morons when they think that leftwing populism would never work while watching Rightwing populism have tremendous success.
Meh… money loves money. Leftist love leftist. Sometimes there is conflict.
 

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Why I've said for a long time that for profit 24/7 news media should be abolished. It accomplishes nothing but enrage and divide.

Both left and right news media are sides of the same shit coin.
It can't/won't, doesn't matter what evidence you show people will always believe that some corporate billionaire who thinks "its bad for business to be outwardly hateful" is some pink haired libby.

True "leftist" media isn't part of the MSM space, it's just running towards the Right to appease whatever perceived injustice they have.
 

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It can't/won't, doesn't matter what evidence you show people will always believe that some corporate billionaire who thinks "its bad for business to be outwardly hateful" is some pink haired libby.

True "leftist" media isn't part of the MSM space, it's just running towards the Right to appease whatever perceived injustice they have.
Leftists are the mainstream media
 
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