Another Shooting

[Cackalacky2.0]

And if it is on social media you know they see it. You make a post on face book say Zuckerburg is a piece of crap or a spy and within 10 minutes your post has been taken down. So don't tell me they don't see these other threats.

True story... i was talking to my sister who lives in northwest Mississippi. Her daughter does travel softball. I was making a joke about her needing to just start her own team called the "Insert her last name+ other specific words". We went on joking about it and I got off the call. 2 hours later she sent me a photo she captured off her face book page that was an advertisement for softball team gear with the exact same name we said to each other during our phone conversation. Literally the exact same thing in logo format on bags, jerseys, cups, coolers etc... This wasnt some common name either.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

And if it is on social media you know they see it. You make a post on facebook saying Zuckerburg is a piece of crap or a spy and within 10 minutes your post has been taken down. So don't tell me they don't see these other threats.

I would guess that the number of potentially violent or threatening posts made on all the social media sites is mind boggling…….millions per day just in this country.

 

[irishff1014]

Father of Highland Park shooting suspect sponsored son's firearm ownership card despite past violent threats

The father of suspected Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo sponsored his son's application for legal firearm ownership despite past threats of violence to himself and others.

www.foxnews.com

So the police did what they were supposed to do and turned this over to the Mental health people and nothing was filed about mental health issues. Also the Dad is was more responsible here then what people are making him. He should be charged as an accomplice IMO. He knew his son was messed up mental and still signed for his card and took credit for the knives. I am not buying it.

 

[drayer54]

Father of Highland Park shooting suspect sponsored son's firearm ownership card despite past violent threats

The father of suspected Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo sponsored his son's application for legal firearm ownership despite past threats of violence to himself and others.

www.foxnews.com

So the police did what they were supposed to do and turned this over to the Mental health people and nothing was filed about mental health issues. Also the Dad is was more responsible here then what people are making him. He should be charged as an accomplice IMO. He knew his son was messed up mental and still signed for his card and took credit for the knives. I am not buying it.

It looks like another police failure in a state where police are enabled to do this sort of thing.

 

[irishff1014]

10 killed by gunfire in Chicago over Fourth of July weekend, at least 62 others are wounded

Twelve of the wounded were shot in three attacks on the West and South sides: Four people in West Garfield Park Friday evening, five men in Parkway Gardens on the South Side early Monday, and three people in Woodlawn early Tuesday.

chicago.suntimes.com

Again it was all weekend and not a one time. But again it's not important enough to be brought up because it's normal or par for the course. would be willing to bet that 75% of them shot were by a stolen gun. So if you are going to preach you damn sure better preach the same message all the time.

 

[Irish#1]

It isn’t hard to find videos of absolute mayhem and lawlessness in this country last weekend. Riots and large groups of people completely out of control. We have no regard for the law anymore and we have a political movement against locking people up and policing. Until we get serious on crime and policing- this shit will continue.

As long as we see mayhem undeterred by law enforcement and society- I don’t care to reduce my ability to defend myself. If I lived in a shitty neighborhood- I’d be carrying constantly these days.

Not sure how we stop a madman publicly plotting a rooftop disaster. I’m a 2A supporter, but have zero issue blocking and even locking up people who post the kind of shit this guy did.

These mass shootings are different from the idiots running around shooting someone at the drop of a hat, but I agree that we need to get tougher on policing crime and administering justice.

 

[Irish#1]

uh its already happening. Internet profiling is literally an art form right now. Its so well known what kind of a person a person is based on their internet and social media behaviors. You can literally psychologically profile a person and then target them with micro ads and recommendations. THe FBI is well versed in identifiying domestic terrorist pages and radicalization sites. If you dont think the government already has access to the same data that Facebook, Amazon, and Google or arnt on the dark web monitoring activties...do you are fooling yourself. The real issue is the legal justification of acting on said meta data. Its not that we dont have the data. Its absolutely available and up for sale. Like... the minority report and precogs... what are the moral implications of pre-crime deterence?

Agree. That's what I'm talking about. Everyone knows FB, Google and the rest are mining our data. Damn near every retailor in the country knows what we like, don't like, etc.. My wife looked at a car online and within five minutes a car dealer was calling her. People don't give a shit when the data grabbed is what Karen had for lunch and posted on FB or those personalized ads that pop up.

If the FBI came out and stated they had been monitoring this guy (not talking about Homeland Security and terrorists), knew he had shown mental health issues, purchased a gun and told local law enforcement to watch this guy before he did anything, the ACLU would be running to the Supreme Court.

 

[IrishLax]

Father of Highland Park shooting suspect sponsored son's firearm ownership card despite past violent threats

The father of suspected Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo sponsored his son's application for legal firearm ownership despite past threats of violence to himself and others.

www.foxnews.com

So the police did what they were supposed to do and turned this over to the Mental health people and nothing was filed about mental health issues. Also the Dad is was more responsible here then what people are making him. He should be charged as an accomplice IMO. He knew his son was messed up mental and still signed for his card and took credit for the knives. I am not buying it.

Dad should get 10+ years in prison. Went out of his way to cover for his son who he KNEW was dangerous and mentally unstable.

 

[IrishLax]

The difference between gang violence and these other mass shootings is perceived consent. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, it just is what it is. If someone in east St. Louis gets shot and he was a gang member with a rap sheet then people just shrug their shoulders and move on with their lives. It's like in The Wire when Omar talks about "it's all in the game"... people assume that in certain parts of this country if you're mixed up in certain stuff you are basically consenting to the risk of getting shot.

When a crazy person goes and shoots up a classroom full of little kids it is the opposite. When a family goes to a 4th of July parade and their two year old leaves as an orphan people have a very different reaction. It's innocent people minding their own business and partaking in activities that should not involve a risk of mass murder by a psychopath. That's why people are looking for answers/solutions to mitigate those sorts of events, and it's why they get frustrated when people aren't willing to try anything. Especially since literally no other countries have this problem on this kind of scale. It is a uniquely American issue.

 

[Valpodoc85]

Fact is the left will demand gun control the right enforcement of existing laws. Both sides will retreat to their base and nothing will happen. For heaven sake children at school get mowed down and nothing happens. We need a different script everyone can agree with. We need leadership with something approximating a spine. We need just the smallest amount of common sense

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Fact is the left will demand gun control the right enforcement of existing laws. Both sides will retreat to their base and nothing will happen. For heaven sake children at school get mowed down and nothing happens. We need a different script everyone can agree with. We need leadership with something approximating a spine. We need just the smallest amount of common sense

Eh I don’t think it’s a purely left vs right issu. there is a portion of the population that totally ignores the qualifying statement of the 2A and will not allow anything less than full access to any arm they desire. There is the large majority of the population that accepts some amount of reasonable loss of of other freedoms to ensure sensible regulations are in place. Count me as a gun owner and one of these people. It’s not a 50/50 stance. 70 percent of the population wants sensible control measures that aren’t currently in place or enforced.

 

[Valpodoc85]

It becomes a left/right issue becomes politicians have to enact laws

 

[Irish#1]

Dad should get 10+ years in prison. Went out of his way to cover for his son who he KNEW was dangerous and mentally unstable.

Aiding and abetting.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Illinois has red flag laws, but the problem is most counties don't strictly enforce them. DuPage County is one of the few that actually does, but Highland Park is in Lake County (which borders Wisconsin to the north and Cook County to the south). That makes it more of a local issue, and I'm guessing most people in IL and everywhere else don't know who their County Board rep is. It would also land in the lap of the county sheriffs office as well.

The bare minimum here, be it Federal/State/County should be to tighten the laws that are already on the books as it relates to guns. I don't consider that big government or more government. It's common fricking sense and doing your job. Upholding law that is already supposed to be in place.

 

[drayer54]

Meanwhile, in Japan.



No word yet if the gun was purchased in Indiana.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Meanwhile, in Japan.



No word yet if the gun was purchased in Indiana.

Probably bought in Mississippi and shipped there

 

[TorontoGold]

Probably bought in Mississippi and shipped there

It's a mental health issue.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Antifas gone global

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[GATTACA!]

Meanwhile, in Japan.



No word yet if the gun was purchased in Indiana.

Yikes. Way to make light of a dude dying to try and make a shitty political point.

For reference Japan averages 76 firearm casualties per year vs the US at 40,000+. Last year we had 68 people killed or injured in just school shootings alone.

U-S-A! U-S-A!

 

[Irish#1]

So the dude says it wasn't politically motivated. He just didn't like him?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

He’s dead.

 

[drayer54]

Yikes. Way to make light of a dude dying to try and make a shitty political point.

For reference Japan averages 76 firearm casualties per year vs the US at 40,000+. Last year we had 68 people killed or injured in just school shootings alone.

U-S-A! U-S-A!

The CCP and American liberal media aren't holding back. One in the same. I'm not a Japanese expert, but apparently he was pretty well received and accomplished. Sad way to go.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

The CCP and American liberal media aren't holding back. One in the same. I'm not a Japanese expert, but apparently he was pretty well received and accomplished. Sad way to go.

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He wasnt well received by a lot of the country per his stance on changing Japans constitution regarding defense and war. Not at all. He tried to undo Americas pacifistic constitution and grow Japans military. That was not liked at all, i believe. By a good portion of the country. Hence why i think this happened.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Illinois has red flag laws, but the problem is most counties don't strictly enforce them. DuPage County is one of the few that actually does, but Highland Park is in Lake County (which borders Wisconsin to the north and Cook County to the south). That makes it more of a local issue, and I'm guessing most people in IL and everywhere else don't know who their County Board rep is. It would also land in the lap of the county sheriffs office as well.

The bare minimum here, be it Federal/State/County should be to tighten the laws that are already on the books as it relates to guns. I don't consider that big government or more government. It's common fricking sense and doing your job. Upholding law that is already supposed to be in place.

Agreed. And I’ll add that I hope the shooter’s father is held responsible to the extent he aided & abetted his son acquiring a weapon. If you’re kid attempts or talks about attempting suicide what could possibly lead you to think assisting that kid in acquiring a handgun which my guess is the leading cause of suicides in US

 

[Rockin’Irish]

He wasnt well received by a lot of the country per his stance on changing Japans constitution regarding defense and war. Not at all. He tried to undo Americas pacifistic constitution and grow Japans military. That was not liked at all, i believe. By a good portion of the country. Hence why i think this happened.

From what I have read, the dude that shot Abe stated he did this because he didn’t like something that Abe was doing in relation to another organization (not sure what organization, etc.) and it had nothing to do with politics. I also read that Abe is supposedly very popular in Japan overall, as far as politicians go.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Agreed. And I’ll add that I hope the shooter’s father is held responsible to the extent he aided & abetted his son acquiring a weapon. If you’re kid attempts or talks about attempting suicide what could possibly lead you to think assisting that kid in acquiring a handgun which my guess is the leading cause of suicides in US

In peeling back the onion on this kid, it turns out the dad is a goof too.

Instead of having no father, this guy has a bad one.

 

[drayer54]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Highland Park Mayor Nancy Rotering.

The stories coming out from this past week all seem to point to the kids knowing what to do and how to respond in the moments the shooter began to fire.

An 8 year old boy suffered a severed spine from being wounded. Serious condition as of Friday: Highland Park parade shooting has left 8-year-old Cooper Roberts with severed spinal cord