Another bonehead USC player in the news

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I have heard that it is difficult to discern the difference between being severely bi-polar and being schizophrenic. I certainly have no information in this case, but I have also heard that frequently people with these conditions self-medicate. At any rate, this young man is having some issues and I hope he gets the treatment he needs before he hurts himself or someone else. Thank God no one was injured in this instance.
 
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Tis true my friend... I suppose stupidity is all around us.
 

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The worst kind of "terrorism" for a society to try to cope with, as it is "inspired" by mental imbalance at fundamental chemical/structural levels, and thereby is probably not "curable" medically [a spiritual miracle might be another story]. Whenever the mind turns into itself so intensely, the world in its entirety becomes merely a stage [including any human elements] and drastically incompatible actions are merely the result of "it all being about me". The "social definition" of the varying forms of serious insanity equates in the end to self-immersion, and thereby loss of balancing contact with external reality in any profound sense.

This is, by the way, why the Jesus Gospel-of-Love message is curative of social ills for the great majority of us who have a chance to be good neighbors, good citizens, Good Samaritans. That message is the diametric opposite of "it's all about me". The two "Love Commandments" say: "It's NOT about you at all." Notre Dame represents that message and is one of the very few Universities anywhere which does.
 

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I have heard that it is difficult to discern the difference between being severely bi-polar and being schizophrenic. I certainly have no information in this case, but I have also heard that frequently people with these conditions self-medicate. At any rate, this young man is having some issues and I hope he gets the treatment he needs before he hurts himself or someone else. Thank God no one was injured in this instance.

Simply, bipolar affects people's mood swings about how they feel about themselves ranging from depression to euphoria.

Schizophrenia affects people's moods but in a way removed from reality and how they perceive others, such as hostility and suspicious.

Schizophrenics hallucinate, hear voices, talk to the voices, bipolars don't.


Unless this guy was scamming the investigators trying to beat a summons, he sounds like he needs evaluation. Could be too much head trauma from all that football.
 

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BGIF is, as usual, correct. The only times/instances wherein it takes a sharp diagnostician to separate a severely schizophrenic person from a severely depressed person are where you have VERY extreme cases of both. In the severe depression case the depression is so bad that the patient is just nearly comatose with inactivity.

In the severe schizophrenia case, the patient is so bombarded with excess stimuli that they curl up within themselves to "hide" from the bombardment [mimicking certain forms of autism]. Both patients may exhibit outwardly the same "no involvement" with the outside world to the casual observer while being inflicted, paradoxically, with the exact opposite problems [too little "energy/nerve system excitement" vs way too much].

This used to result in severe "psychotic depression" patients, who were in reality over-bombarded schizophrenics, being given medicines intended to boost brain neurotransmitter functions when that was exactly what they didn't need. So, the depressed end of the symptoms is where confusion might occur, not at the "euphoric/hyper" end as BGIF points out.

This guy is behaving like one of two things: a brain-neurotransmitter-imbalanced schizophrenic who is in serious trouble [and BGIF is again correct that brain trauma might bring this anomaly on], or a drug-induced pseudo-schizophrenic, whereupon this guy needs to dry out permanently.

Truck-driver "amphetamine psychosis" is nearly impossible to distinguish from "regular" schizophrenia, for instance. Any so-called "uppers" or powerful neurotransmitter stimulating drugs can produce this in the susceptible brain [I had a friend whose first adventure with cocaine, and his last, put him out in a strange neighborhood threatening citizens with a knife, and thereby on to Jackson prison for a three year term.] What the individual brain can take is unknowable until the [stupid] experiment is run.

Given that, this athlete may be lying to cover up excess drug use.
 

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Simply, bipolar affects people's mood swings about how they feel about themselves ranging from depression to euphoria.

Schizophrenia affects people's moods but in a way removed from reality and how they perceive others, such as hostility and suspicious.

Schizophrenics hallucinate, hear voices, talk to the voices, bipolars don't.


Unless this guy was scamming the investigators trying to beat a summons, he sounds like he needs evaluation. Could be too much head trauma from all that football.

BGIF is, as usual, correct. The only times/instances wherein it takes a sharp diagnostician to separate a severely schizophrenic person from a severely depressed person are where you have VERY extreme cases of both. In the severe depression case the depression is so bad that the patient is just nearly comatose with inactivity.

In the severe schizophrenia case, the patient is so bombarded with excess stimuli that they curl up within themselves to "hide" from the bombardment [mimicking certain forms of autism]. Both patients may exhibit outwardly the same "no involvement" with the outside world to the casual observer while being inflicted, paradoxically, with the exact opposite problems [too little "energy/nerve system excitement" vs way too much].

This used to result in severe "psychotic depression" patients, who were in reality over-bombarded schizophrenics, being given medicines intended to boost brain neurotransmitter functions when that was exactly what they didn't need. So, the depressed end of the symptoms is where confusion might occur, not at the "euphoric/hyper" end as BGIF points out.

This guy is behaving like one of two things: a brain-neurotransmitter-imbalanced schizophrenic who is in serious trouble [and BGIF is again correct that brain trauma might bring this anomaly on], or a drug-induced pseudo-schizophrenic, whereupon this guy needs to dry out permanently.

Truck-driver "amphetamine psychosis" is nearly impossible to distinguish from "regular" schizophrenia, for instance. Any so-called "uppers" or powerful neurotransmitter stimulating drugs can produce this in the susceptible brain [I had a friend whose first adventure with cocaine, and his last, put him out in a strange neighborhood threatening citizens with a knife, and thereby on to Jackson prison for a three year term.] What the individual brain can take is unknowable until the [stupid] experiment is run.

Given that, this athlete may be lying to cover up excess drug use.

Wow, some really enlightening info in there, and stated in a way that I can actually follow what you both are saying and also understand the basic differences in these conditions. Thank you both for taking the time.
 
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