All Things Star Wars Thread (Spoilers)

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IrishLion said:
Luke and Snoke both dying after being set up in TFA as integral to the story and eventual resolution throws everyone off.

I figured the final conflict/resolution was going to be Rey finally bringing true balance, as Luke and Snoke were out of the way, leaving her to deal with Kylo.

The Force generating a true wildcard with no connection to the Skywalker lineage made so much sense as a way to close the Skywalker chapter and open up Disney’s new Star Wars universe with almost no limits on new IP… and they fuckin ruined it by making her a Palpatine and killing Kylo in the most predictable way.

They could’ve done almost anything else that’s more interesting… Rey and Kylo realize together that both sides of the Force must coexist, and they come to a grudging understanding, or one/both become gray Jedi, or they both bite the dust and the Force resets with a bunch of kids we don’t even know yet. Could’ve gone anywhere with it!
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Yep. The only thing TLJ made impossible is doing the exact OT plot again. Not being able to rehash the original trilogy =/= there's no way to satisfactorily continue this narrative.

Then Rise of Skywalker basically retconned itself to do the Original Trilogy again anyway lol. Surprise, it sucked.
 
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TheProspector said:
Rise of Skywalker was the biggest pile of shit in the whole trilogy (followed by the Phantom Menace). Although to be far to Rise, the choices made in TLJ put it in a rough spot to craft any cohesive narrative.
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Completely agree. I have a bunch of thoughts on comments made here, but the ones that come immediately to mind are:

1. The Last Jedi sucked, but if anyone deserves flak for going against Luke's character, it's Abrams. Having him hiding away for an entire movie in TFA was his decision, and Rian Johnson had to in some way explain that in TLJ. The latter failed, but it was the former's decision that put us in that mess in the first place.

2. Out of the three made by Disney, the Rise of Skywalker is so, so, so much worse than TLJ. TLJ took big swings and missed, which I respect (even though some scenes are just absolutely awful; the casino planet, I'm looking at you). The Last Skywalker is just pure trash, dragged through mud and set on fire in a dumpster ("someone, Palpatine returned." Just awul).

I got super sick a few weeks ago and actually re-watched all 9 movies. I didn't despite TLJ as much as I did on first view, but wanted to barf once it was over. With TLS? I wanted to barf the entire film. It's just complete rubbish.

Oh, and Andor is the best Star Wars production since the original trilogy. It's excellent, riveting stuff.
 
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It's astounding to me that Disney acquired this landmark cultural franchise and did not carefully plan out the plot for all 3 sequel trilogy movies before director choices were made. Genuinely floored that the prevailing narrative is "Abrams screwed up which led to Johnson really screwing up which led to Abrams really, really screwing up."
 
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tussin said:
It's astounding to me that Disney acquired this landmark cultural franchise and did not carefully plan out the plot for all 3 sequel trilogy movies before director choices were made. Genuinely floored that the prevailing narrative is "Abrams screwed up which led to Johnson really screwing up which led to Abrams really, really screwing up."
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because disney has no plan ever; just picks something and then appoints mostly woke jokes(Snow White, etc) or those wanting to make it all about what they want which is Abrams
the process of choosing show runners is so totally screwed up its hard to imagine them doing worse if they wanted to
 
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burmafrd1944 said:
because disney has no plan ever; just picks something and then appoints mostly woke jokes(Snow White, etc) or those wanting to make it all about what they want which is Abrams
the process of choosing show runners is so totally screwed up its hard to imagine them doing worse if they wanted to
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Which is why Andor was so good--Disney didn't expect it to be big, so they didn't meddle as much.
 
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