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January 6th every single time it's brought up. Is it past your bedtime or something?
How did I defend Jan 6th? I’m saying if we are to call this an insurrection than other and more successful take overs of government buildings g should be called the same. That’s not defending Jan 6th, that’s calling you out for defending your sides mostly peaceful protest narrative. Don’t get it twisted.
 

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Yes this ruling is the opposite of that. Giving presidents a get out of jail free card is not honoring the courts or the laws of our country.
Thats the error in your logic. This isn’t a get out of jail free card. Barret said as much with her opinion that they could have ruled on a few actions that would not be in favor of Trump.
 

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defending your sides mostly peaceful protest narrative.
Where?? Please quote me where I defended anything regarding BLM. Your knee jerk reaction to deflect any anger or desire for accountability over January 6th by labeling it selective outrage and comparing it to BLM speaks volumes.

You’d think someone that’s still this upset about BLM occupying some buildings in some shithole lib cities would bring that same energy to another group occupying the nations capitol and trying to steal an election. Guess not.
 

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Thats the error in your logic. This isn’t a get out of jail free card. Barret said as much with her opinion that they could have ruled on a few actions that would not be in favor of Trump.
There is no reason to open this door at all. There’s no justification for why the presidents selective immunity needed to be expanded.

🚨 SLIPPERY SLOPE! SLIPPERY SLOPE! 🚨
 

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Yes this ruling is the opposite of that. Giving presidents a get out of jail free card is not honoring the courts or the laws of our country.
I'm sorry, but this doesn't give Trump carte blanche. While in office, If Trump ordered Hillary Clinton killed, I doubt he would find someone on staff to carry this out, even if he wanted to do it through the military. If this did happen, he would stand trial. Any one with common sense can see that would not be an official act.

The pearl clutching and outrage coming from the left shouldn't be a surprise. After all, they immediately react emotionally without taking the time to think it through.
 

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This was pulled from an article on cnn.com. It was written by a guy who served as counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for Trump's impeachment.

On Monday, the Supreme Court essentially found a middle ground between the government’s position and Trump’s. Rejecting Trump’s absurd claim of blanket criminal immunity for official acts, the court still carved out a broader scope of conduct for which a president cannot be prosecuted, even after they leave office.
 

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Where?? Please quote me where I defended anything regarding BLM. Your knee jerk reaction to deflect any anger or desire for accountability over January 6th by labeling it selective outrage and comparing it to BLM speaks volumes.

You’d think someone that’s still this upset about BLM occupying some buildings in some shithole lib cities would bring that same energy to another group occupying the nations capitol and trying to steal an election. Guess not.
You said the “the party that…”

I responded with arguing what the “other side…”

I never said “you”.

Reading is a skill.

YOU chose to make it about slippery slopes and precedent.

I used examples of slippery slopes… for the other side…. not “you” specifically.

This argument was never about what “I” said or “you” said.

Cry… baby!! 😢
 
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The pearl clutching and outrage coming from the left shouldn't be a surprise. After all, they immediately react emotionally without taking the time to think it through.
Don’t even try. He will respond “pearl clutching!!!”…. he will give one or two republican pearl clutching moments…. you respond back with examples of your own. “I never said”… “the fact you would use examples speaks volumes” going into immediate victim mode.
 

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Because it is vague. Can you define what falls under it? The Supreme Court couldn't that's why they remanded this decision to a lower court to determine if Trumps actions that he's being accused of should be considered official duties.

And if it's found in the district courts that it was unofficial he'll appeal it back to the Supreme Court where the deeply political justices that just opened the door for themselves to take bribes will happily overturn the lower courts decision.
What ruling allows justices to take bribes?
 

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I'm sorry, but this doesn't give Trump carte blanche. While in office, If Trump ordered Hillary Clinton killed, I doubt he would find someone on staff to carry this out, even if he wanted to do it through the military. If this did happen, he would stand trial. Any one with common sense can see that would not be an official act.

The pearl clutching and outrage coming from the left shouldn't be a surprise. After all, they immediately react emotionally without taking the time to think it through.
If the only concern was a president directly murdering someone then sure lol
 

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Questioning Ukraine on Biden grift is impeachable election interference but 51 intelligence officials undermining Hunter laptop and Steele dossier are totes legit. Can't have it both ways.

Defending the honor of Hillary Clinton is something else too. OJ is innocent too you fucking rube.
 

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Questioning Ukraine on Biden grift is impeachable election interference but 51 intelligence officials undermining Hunter laptop and Steele dossier are totes legit. Can't have it both ways.

Defending the honor of Hillary Clinton is something else too. OJ is innocent too you fucking rube.
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What am I supposedly coping with? Immunity being confirmed in the most logical sense but still opening the debate to what falls within "official duties"? Maybe I should be upset the establishment has validation for continuing to protect their own with the cover of "official duties" but Trump seems more validated than anyone.

As someone with substantial libertarian leanings, regulatory upheaval from Chevron makes it a pretty good week so far and everything else is just noise.
 

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What am I supposedly coping with? Immunity being confirmed in the most logical sense but still opening the debate to what falls within "official duties"? Maybe I should be upset the establishment has validation for continuing to protect their own with the cover of "official duties" but Trump seems more validated than anyone.

As someone with substantial libertarian leanings, regulatory upheaval from Chevron makes it a pretty good week so far and everything else is just noise.
You're still coping with the first Trump impeachment, and what 51 people wrote. It's 2024 lmao.

"leanings" lol basically just anything that personally benefits you and you don't want to pay for it.
 

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If the only concern was a president directly murdering someone then sure lol
That was just one example. To think Trump is going to turn this into 1939 Germany if he wins is funny.
 

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You're still coping with the first Trump impeachment, and what 51 people wrote. It's 2024 lmao.

"leanings" lol basically just anything that personally benefits you and you don't want to pay for it.
January 6, 2021 was in that timeframe as well. It’s 2024… moving on.
 

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January 6, 2021 was in that timeframe as well. It’s 2024… moving on.
That's correct. Once all legal matters relating to that are resolved then yeah people should move on. RDU needs to find new things to be upset at.
 

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You're still coping with the first Trump impeachment, and what 51 people wrote. It's 2024 lmao.

"leanings" lol basically just anything that personally benefits you and you don't want to pay for it.

The first step is admitting you have a problem - millions of people opening their eyes to the lie that Biden is competent and functional after the debate, which has prompted the next question of "what other lies were told". 51 officials lying about Hunter's laptop is the lowest hanging fruit on that massive tree and you can't even admit it. Instead- dude that is so old it doesn't matter. Total Hillary statement - "at this point what difference does it make". Why are you so dedicated to sucking off liars and obfuscating facts? The entire impeachment was based on a fraud and you are OK with it b/c you are a lying troll.

"Leanings" are hard for zealots to understand. I want smaller government with equal and fair rule of law. I understand neither party comes close to representing these preferences and I must perpetually vote for the lesser of evils.
 

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The first step is admitting you have a problem - millions of people opening their eyes to the lie that Biden is competent and functional after the debate, which has prompted the next question of "what other lies were told". 51 officials lying about Hunter's laptop is the lowest hanging fruit on that massive tree and you can't even admit it. Instead- dude that is so old it doesn't matter. Total Hillary statement - "at this point what difference does it make". Why are you so dedicated to sucking off liars and obfuscating facts? The entire impeachment was based on a fraud and you are OK with it b/c you are a lying troll.

"Leanings" are hard for zealots to understand. I want smaller government with equal and fair rule of law. I understand neither party comes close to representing these preferences and I must perpetually vote for the lesser of evils.
Millions of people? I don't think anyone on IE was surprised at the performance. You can go back to 2020 and see how many people expected Biden to die during his 4 years. MSM is all fake news until I decide when it's convenient! lol.

Ok then prosecute them if they committed a crime? Otherwise it's just politics lmao. I'm not sucking off anyone bucko, I'm not full throating a politician about screaming about grievances from the last cycle. But yes, I'm the lying troll! Take a breather, it's going to be ok Orange Jesus will likely win.

Yes, I'm the zealot haha.
 

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Why are the only examples you can come up with for how this could be abused the most absurdly extreme scenarios?

Just repeating what a couple of SCJ's are saying.
In their dissents, both Sotomayor and Jackson addressed the question of whether a president would have immunity from criminal prosecution for acts of murder -- including ordering the assassination of a political rival.
We've had posts a while back talking about Trump wouldn't come out and condemn the Neo's inferring that he supported them and would be taking us in that direction.
 
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Millions of people? I don't think anyone on IE was surprised at the performance. You can go back to 2020 and see how many people expected Biden to die during his 4 years. MSM is all fake news until I decide when it's convenient! lol.

Ok then prosecute them if they committed a crime? Otherwise it's just politics lmao. I'm not sucking off anyone bucko, I'm not full throating a politician about screaming about grievances from the last cycle. But yes, I'm the lying troll! Take a breather, it's going to be ok Orange Jesus will likely win.

Yes, I'm the zealot haha.

Why the sudden about face by the talking heads on Biden's condition and need to replace him if it was obvious to all four years ago? Or is it all politics?

Thanks for admitting you are a zealot. Self awareness suites you.
 

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Why the sudden about face by the talking heads on Biden's condition and need to replace him if it was obvious to all four years ago? Or is it all politics?

Thanks for admitting you are a zealot. Self awareness suites you.
Conservative MSM was running pieces in 2020 about Biden hiding in his basement, did you miss those or were you watching The View too much?

You calling anyone a zealot is incredible.
 
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