All Things SCOTUS

[NorthDakota]

Anyone else hear joyous hymns coming from the sky this morning?

What a glorious day to have a great role model for young women on the Supreme Court. We haven't had one since O'Connor.

 

[NorthDakota]

For the record, it looks like most folks seem to think the ACA will survive the latest challenge regardless of court structure, it's really a shame that lib senators won't be held accountable for kicking and screaming about how ACB will take away Healthcare from millions when the most likely result is that SCOTUS finds the provision severable rather than the entire Act unconstitutional.

We listened for days while libs basically played Sarah Mclaughlin commercials. Because they did that, I hope the court finds the entire act unconstitutional, and Barrett writes a concurring opinion that says, "Eat shit libs lol."

 

[ACamp1900]

Knowing what negative impact its had (first hand) on so many Americans and then seeing the dems play this lowest common denominator garbage over and over about how it’s essentially the savior of our nation makes me sick. I also love the new Biden ad talking about how booming the Obama economy was and how Trump single handedily tanked it to all time lows thats also shockingly lowest denominator. You have to be super team sports for the dems or have paid no real attention to anything over the last eight years to not lol and eye roll at that one.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Just curious but is this what passes for qualified as a SCOTUS? I admittedly know very little about judicial qualifications but hers seem.... scant.

yes I know its from msnbc/MotherJones blah blah...

 

[Irish YJ]

Knowing what negative impact its had (first hand) on so many Americans and then seeing the dems play this lowest common denominator garbage over and over about how it’s essentially the savior of our nation makes me sick. I also love the new Biden ad talking about how booming the Obama economy was and how Trump single handedily tanked it to all time lows thats also shockingly lowest denominator. You have to be super team sports for the dems or have paid no real alternation to anything over the last eight years to not lol and eye roll at that one.

And some of the Biden commercials on the Covid topic are lol too. While I wished Trump acted differently on the subject, you think by watching the commercials that there were zero deaths in Europe EVER, no other countries seeing spikes, and that Trump personally brought the virus here from China.

 

[drayer54]

Just curious but is this what passes for qualified as a SCOTUS? I admittedly know very little about judicial qualifications but hers seem.... scant.

yes I know its from msnbc/MotherJones blah blah...

Did you not watch the confirmation? She's a legal wiz. Also- did MSNBC/MJ compare her experience to Kagan?

FWIW- Kagan was unquestionably qualified as well.

 

[Irish YJ]

Just curious but is this what passes for qualified as a SCOTUS? I admittedly know very little about judicial qualifications but hers seem.... scant.

yes I know its from msnbc/MotherJones blah blah...

While she only served as a judge previously for only 2 or 3 years, I don't think Kagan did at all.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Did you not watch the confirmation? She's a legal wiz. Also- did MSNBC/MJ compare her experience to Kagan?

FWIW- Kagan was unquestionably qualified as well.

No I didn't very much. I watched about the first hour and saw the questions and political theater from both sides and turned it off. Its a foregone conclusions he is getting confirmed anyway. Doesnt matter what questions they asked.

IDK if they compared her. I dont see it.

I see the ABA gave her a well qualified rating with a minority rating her qualified. Kagan got well qualified unanimously. I don't find that very different.

 

[NorthDakota]

Just curious but is this what passes for qualified as a SCOTUS? I admittedly know very little about judicial qualifications but hers seem.... scant.

yes I know its from msnbc/MotherJones blah blah...

Lol pretty well everyone in the legal profession has acknowledged she is well qualified for the job. Even the ABA gave her the thumps up lol.

MSNBC/Mother Jones just wants to stir up a bunch of shit. They are all aware that she's a genius. I suspect they did not put up any goofy graphics when Kagan was nominated.

 

[Irish YJ]

Anyone that watched her, knows she's fit for the job. On top of that, she totally dunked on several politicians effortlessly when asked stupid shit.

 

[Irish#1]

Anyone that watched her, knows she's fit for the job. On top of that, she totally dunked on several politicians effortlessly when asked stupid shit.

The blank note pad was all you need to know on whether she's qualified or not. lol

 

[dublinirish]

Anyone that watched her, knows she's fit for the job. On top of that, she totally dunked on several politicians effortlessly when asked stupid shit.

oh yeah and when she totally was unable to name all of the five freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, that was great she owned those guys so hard

 

[Irish YJ]

The blank note pad was all you need to know on whether she's qualified or not. lol

I almost wish she had a twin that could run as a politician.

 

[Legacy]

I would want someone with more real world experience and someone who defended clients in court. But only one person's opinion mattered here.

To me she is a Bork-light but younger and less experience in the courtrooom arguing cases.

 

[Irishize]

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[Cackalacky2.0]

oh yeah and when she totally was unable to name all of the five freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, that was great she owned those guys so hard

I recall in her 2017 appointment hearing, she couldn't name three cases she worked on. that seems a little weird for a legal wiz.

I mean I guess I would like a SCOTUS to have numerous years of trial experience and judging before even being able to be considered. It seems ridiculous that a person with as little courtroom experience is even able to be nominated.... and YEEEESSSSSS that would include Kagan too....

 

[PraetorianND]

oh yeah and when she totally was unable to name all of the five freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, that was great she owned those guys so hard

Care to name them? Actually just do the whole bill of rights.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

The blank note pad was all you need to know on whether she's qualified or not. lol

Im sorry but what does this mean?

 

[Irish YJ]

oh yeah and when she totally was unable to name all of the five freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, that was great she owned those guys so hard

Yea, she stumbled on redress of grievances.

But hey, Joe can't remember what state he's in. And you're going to vote for him right.

ACB should have just said "you know the thing", and it would have been OK right? lol

 

[Irish YJ]

Im sorry but what does this mean?

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[Cackalacky2.0]

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Im sorry, I still dont get it.

 

[PraetorianND]

Im sorry, I still dont get it.

Lol

 

[Irish YJ]

Im sorry, I still dont get it.

She was grilled very hard. Asked to answer a ton of legal stuff. Needed zero notes.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

She was grilled very hard. Asked to answer a ton of legal stuff. Needed zero notes.

oh... I didnt get the context of that video. TY.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Lol

I didnt watch any of this and didnt know the context of the blank notepad. Sorry if that was lol-able

 

[PraetorianND]

oh... I didnt get the context of that video. TY.

Ya basically she’s really smart. I don’t know that her memory makes her qualified outright. But it’s definitely a plus.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Ya basically she’s really smart. I don’t know that her memory makes her qualified outright. But it’s definitely a plus.

Yeah I get being able to discuss things. My line of work is pretty complicated and discussing things with fellow engineers can get messy. When doing my work though I still have to consult my books and sources to ensure what I am doing is correct.

 

[Irish#1]

I recall in her 2017 appointment hearing, she couldn't name three cases she worked on. that seems a little weird for a legal wiz.

I mean I guess I would like a SCOTUS to have numerous years of trial experience and judging before even being able to be considered. It seems ridiculous that a person with as little courtroom experience is even able to be nominated.... and YEEEESSSSSS that would include Kagan too....

Why do you need trial experience if you know the law? Not all umpires played baseball.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Why do you need trial experience if you know the law? Not all umpires played baseball.

At least six years is preferred, but nearly half of judges think the prerequisite should be 10 years.

That’s the verdict from our monthly one-question survey emailed to NJC alumni. Sent out just after Labor Day, this month’s question asked: “How many years of trial experience should an attorney be required to have before taking the bench?”

Judges were given a choice of ranges of years: 0-2, 3-5, 6-9 or 10 or more. More than a thousand judges responded. Nearly half chose 10 years or more and another 31 percent picked 6-9.

“I have seen many attorneys run for the position of judge stating that they have a law degree and that qualifies them,” commented one judge, anonymously, as was the case with all who left comments. “When they take the bench, they have no idea as to what to do. It is a whole new world on this side of the bench.”

Wrote another: “Being smart is a wonderful thing, but there is no substitute for experience. Judges who take the bench with little or no trial experience have no point of reference for what happens in court and no empathy or understanding for what the trial lawyers are dealing with.”

Prior legal practice is a prerequisite for some state and federal judgeships, but it’s not known if any jurisdiction requires a certain amount of prior trial experience.

https://www.judges.org/news-and-info/heres-how-much-trial-experience-judges-think-an-attorney-should-have-before-taking-the-bench/#:~:text=Prior%20legal%20practice%20is%20a,amount%20of%20prior%20trial%20experience.&text=%E2%80%9CBusiness%20court%20judges%20need%20business%20court%20experience%2C%E2%80%9D%20declared%20one. I agree with this assessment. Id think experience should be required by any profession be fore taking a leading position. Doctors arent just allowed to practice medicine without an apprenticeship. Neither are engineers. But lawyers can go right from school to a judge seat? Seems legit.

 

[Irish YJ]

https://www.judges.org/news-and-info/heres-how-much-trial-experience-judges-think-an-attorney-should-have-before-taking-the-bench/#:~:text=Prior%20legal%20practice%20is%20a,amount%20of%20prior%20trial%20experience.&text=%E2%80%9CBusiness%20court%20judges%20need%20business%20court%20experience%2C%E2%80%9D%20declared%20one. I agree with this assessment. Id think experience should be required by any profession be fore taking a leading position. Doctors arent just allowed to practice medicine without an apprenticeship. Neither are engineers. But lawyers can go right from school to a judge seat? Seems legit.

Then Kagan (Obama's) doesn't fit either.

I'm OK with the narrative if it were applied across the board.