AirAsis FLT 8501 Missing!

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AirAsia flight carrying 162 people from Indonesia to Singapore missing: officials | Reuters

BY CHRIS NUSATYA AND RANDY FABI
JAKARTA Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:30am EST

(Reuters) - An AirAsia flight with 162 people on board lost contact with air traffic control on Sunday after the pilots asked to change course to avoid bad weather during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore, Indonesian officials said.

Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ 8501, an Airbus 320-200, lost contact with the Jakarta air traffic control tower at 6:17 a.m. (6.17 p.m. EST), officials said.

"The aircraft was on the submitted flight plan route and was requesting deviation due to enroute weather before communication with the aircraft was lost while it was still under the control of the Indonesian air traffic control," the airline said in a statement.

No distress signal had been sent, said Joko Muryo Atmodjo, air transportation director at the Indonesian Transport Ministry.

A search and rescue operation had been launched, the airline and the Indonesian air force said. Singapore said it had activated its air force and navy to help.

Indonesia AirAsia is 49 percent owned by Malaysian-based

 

[irishff1014]

This is getting crazy.

 

[BobD]

If they don't find at least a scrap of this plane very soon..... let general panic begin.

 

[Fbolt]

Wow-I've flown Air Asia many many times. Hard to imagine any company falling so hard so fast.

Hope they find the plane. Hope.

 

[irishff1014]

If they don't find at least a scrap of this plane very soon..... let general panic begin.

I saw an article that they had called off the search last night so they should begin so I would think. If they don't find debris some concern should be it order now.

 

[kmoose]

Wouldn't it be absolutely crazy if they found MH370 while looking for this flight?

 

[BobD]

Wouldn't it be absolutely crazy if they found MH370 while looking for this flight?

Yep, but even crazier if we can't find either. If someone has figured out a way to make planes disappear, they can make then reappear. They could basically swap a plane fully loaded with explosives for a plane on the same flight path. I hope they find something soon.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Unbelievable.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I flew Air Asia last year from Bangkok to Phuket. It was a little disconcerting.

 

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Official: Missing AirAsia jet likely at bottom of sea - CNN.com

Missing plane likely at 'the bottom of the sea,' Indonesian rescue official says
By Jethro Mullen, Susanna Capelouto and Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN
updated 11:14 PM EST, Sun December 28, 2014

(CNN) -- Indonesia's top rescue official says authorities believe the missing AirAsia jet is likely at the bottom of the sea, based on radar data from the plane's last contact.
"(Because) the coordinate that was given to us and the evolution from the calculation point of the flight track is at sea, our early conjecture is that the plane is in the bottom of the sea," Bambang Sulistyo, head of Indonesia's national search and rescue agency, told reporters Monday.

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Objects spotted in search for missing AirAsia flight as hope fades for passengers | Fox News

The search for missing AirAsia Flight 8501 may have received a boost Monday after an Indonesian official said that Australian planes had spotted objects in the Java Sea search area.

Jakarta's Air Force base commander Rear Marshal Dwi Putranto told the Associated Press that he was informed Monday that an Orion aircraft had detected "suspicious" objects near Nangka island, about 100 miles southwest of Pangkalan Bun, near central Kalimantan, or 700 miles from the location where the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers early Sunday.

However, we cannot be sure whether it is part of the missing AirAsia plane," Putranto cautioned, "We are now moving in that direction, which is in cloudy conditions."

Air Force spokesman Rear Marshal Hadi Tjahnanto told Indonesia's MetroTV that an Indonesian helicopter in the eastern part of Belitung island spotted two oily spots on the sea about 105 nautical miles east of Tanjung Pandan -- much closer to the point of last contact. He said samples of the oil would be collected and analyzed to see if they are connected to the missing plane.

False sightings of objects and oil slicks that initially appear to be from a missing plane were among the issues that plagued the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 earlier this year. The fate of that plane, which vanished March 8 with 239 people on board, remains unknown.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yeah, until they can put landing strips on oceans, I'm not too inclined to fly overseas anytime soon.

 

[BGIF]

Yeah, until they can put landing strips on oceans, I'm not too inclined to fly overseas anytime soon.

My father had a philosophy that when your time comes, your times comes. Just don't be on a plane when the pilot's time comes.

 

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AirAsia: The question on everyone's mind - CNN.com

 

[Irishnuke]

As horrible as this is, at least the families know and can get some closure. Still can't imagine what the families of MH370 had to go through.

Debris discovered from missing AirAsia Flight - CNN.com

 

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Official: Sonar detects AirAsia Flight QZ8501 wreckage - CNN.com

Official: Sonar detects wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 on sea floor
By Jethro Mullen, Josh Levs and Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN
updated 12:07 AM EST, Wed December 31, 2014

(CNN) -- [Breaking news update 12:02 a.m. ET]
Families of people aboard AirAsia Flight QZ8501 have been briefed by officials that sonar technology has "spotted the plane on sea floor," a relative of some of the passengers told CNN on Wednesday. The man, who said he lost seven relatives and friends on the flight, told CNN that families are still wanting and expecting regular and full updates from authorities.

[Breaking news update 10:55 p.m. ET]
Indonesian searchers using sonar equipment have located wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 at the bottom of the Java Sea, a search and rescue official told CNN on Wednesday. At the moment, they still don't know if it's in one piece or broken up, said the official, Hernato, who goes by one name.

 

[phork]

I just find it funny that we can remote pilot a drone from across the other side of the world and then fly it into the front door of a suspected terrorist hang out and then watch it all on CNN, but we can't track airliners..

One of those things where you just derp at technology.

 

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Indonesia official says 'pings' detected in search for AirAsia flight recorders | Reuters

Indonesia official says 'pings' detected in search for AirAsia flight recorders
BY CHARLOTTE GREENFIELD AND GAYATRI SUROYO
JAKARTA Fri Jan 9, 2015 12:58am EST

(Reuters) - Indonesia search and rescue teams hunting for the wreck of an AirAsia passenger jet detected pings in their efforts to find the black box flight recorders on Friday, an official said, 12 days after the plane went missing with 162 people on board.

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Santoso Sayogo, an investigator at the National Transportation Safety Committee, said it appeared that the flight recorders were no longer in the tail.

"We received an update from the field that the pinger locator already detected pings," he told Reuters.

"We have our fingers crossed it is the black box. Divers need to confirm. Unfortunately it seems it's off from the tail. But the divers need to confirm the position."

The tail was found on Wednesday, upturned on the sea bed about 30 km (20 miles) from the plane's last known location at a depth of around 30 meters.

Indonesian search teams loaded lifting balloons on to helicopters on Friday ahead of an operation to raise the tail.

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[phork]

The lawsuits against this airline are going to kill it, especially when they are saying that this plane wasn't cleared to fly this route.

 

[Irish#1]

The lawsuits against this airline are going to kill it, especially when they are saying that this plane wasn't cleared to fly this route.

If the consumers don't kill it first.

 

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Indonesia says no evidence so far of terrorism in AirAsia crash | Reuters

BY KANUPRIYA KAPOOR AND RANDY FABI
JAKARTA Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:41am EST

 

[connor_in]

Indonesia says no evidence so far of terrorism in AirAsia crash | Reuters

BY KANUPRIYA KAPOOR AND RANDY FABI
JAKARTA Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:41am EST

Either Asian airlines are the most incompetent things on the planet (next to Canadian web designers who build sites for the US govt) or the Bermuda Triangle up and moved

 

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AirAsia Jet Climbed at Rate Beyond Design of Commercial Planes - WSJ

By I-MADE SENTANA and GAURAV RAGHUVANSHI
Updated Jan. 20, 2015 12:15 p.m. ET

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The Airbus A320 jet turned away from its assigned flight path en route from Surabaya to Singapore, climbed at a rate of more than 8,000 feet a minute—six to eight times the normal rate—then descended and lost contact within three minutes, Mr. Jonan said, citing data from the plane’s automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast, or ADS-B, system.

Mr. Jonan cautioned that no conclusions should be drawn about the cause of the accident before the National Transportation Safety Committee completes its investigation. The plane had requested to turn and climb, apparently because of bad weather. But air-traffic controllers didn’t approve the altitude change immediately because they wanted to check whether other aircraft were in the vicinity. By the time the controllers tried to contact the pilots with permission to climb, the aircraft was lost.

Commercial aircraft aren’t designed to climb at the rates the plane appears to have ascended, he said.

An AirAsia pilot said the normal rate of climb of an A320 jet is between 1,000 feet and 1,200 feet a minute and planes rarely climb at rates more than 1,500 feet a minute during normal maneuvers.

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Climbed at 8,000 ft per minute but apparently came down at an even faster rate based on that 3 minute timeframe mentioned. Say an altitude of 30,000+ ft an a fall in 3 minutes that,s 10,000 fpm.

 

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AirAsia captain left seat before jet lost control: sources | Reuters

BY SIVA GOVINDASAMY, KANUPRIYA KAPOOR AND TIM HEPHER
SINGAPORE/JAKARTA/PARIS Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:53am EST


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People familiar with the matter said earlier this week that investigators were examining maintenance records of one of the automated systems, the Flight Augmentation Computer (FAC), and the way the pilots reacted to any outage.

One person familiar with the matter said the captain had flown on the same plane with the intermittently faulty device days earlier. There was no independent confirmation of this.

After trying to reset this device, pilots pulled a circuit-breaker to cut its power, Bloomberg News reported on Friday.

People familiar with the matter said it was the Indonesian captain Iriyanto who took this step, rather than his less experienced French co-pilot Remy Plesel, who was flying the plane.

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