'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

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Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. :s::s::s::s: #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... :s::s::s::s: #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... :s::s::s::s: #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ :s::s::s::s: #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. :s::s::s::s: #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
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IrishLion said:
I do kind of get that... it's the Vibe Test instead of the Eye Test.

Some guys radiate "competitor" or "alpha" from a distance, others don't.

Where you and I differ is that I'm not predicting he's non-factor based on that. Kyren Williams didn't give me those vibes... then he made every defender on the field look foolish most Saturdays.
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My gut is to agree with this but Deshone Kizer was this until he was the starter. Maybe the exception that proves the rule though
 
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Lberry said:
Corrected on insignificant detail. He's been here a year, show me a single reporter talk about his competitiveness. Show me him changing his body. Show me him not smiling the entire game on sidelines, just happy to be there. These things aren't that hard to get a read on for a QB.
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I think Mike Frank had an article less than a week ago stating he's up to around 220 pounds and has the most elite arm talent on the team.
 
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lcaps20 said:
I think Mike Frank had an article less than a week ago stating he's up to around 220 pounds and has the most elite arm talent on the team.
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Doesn't matter lberry knows what it takes. He knows what he's talking about
 
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lcaps20 said:
I think Mike Frank had an article less than a week ago stating he's up to around 220 pounds and has the most elite arm talent on the team.
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No question he has the best arm talent but that's also because the talent in our QB room has been a joke. We swooned over a 6th year who might not even be drafted, healthy.

His arm isn't my concern though, it's dog or no dog. Link? If he's 220 I'm not sure it's a good 220 because he's not exactly cut. I'll take any positive thoughts on him we can get because the reporters have plenty of focus on him but you don't hear squat about him.

Sometimes what's not said speaks the loudest, especially when its the highest rated player at the most important position... contrast the reporter avoidance to what I THINK we'll hear about Carr (I think he has dog).

If you want to go all the way I think you'll see Minchey transfer to a far lower tier school or just ride it out here as a backup. I've seen nothing in his body language, body changes, or practice reports that makes me think he's convinced he's the man and willing to be a warrior to go and take it one day. When everyone's talented (which our QB room now is finally) it's the biggest dog that takes the lead.

Again, could be wrong.
 
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Lberry said:
No question he has the best arm talent but that's also because the talent in our QB room has been a joke. We swooned over a 6th year who might not even be drafted, healthy.

His arm isn't my concern though, it's dog or no dog. Link? If he's 220 I'm not sure it's a good 220 because he's not exactly cut. I'll take any positive thoughts on him we can get because the reporters have plenty of focus on him but you don't hear squat about him.

Sometimes what's not said speaks the loudest, especially when its the highest rated player at the most important position... contrast the reporter avoidance to what I THINK we'll hear about Carr (I think he has dog).

If you want to go all the way I think you'll see Minchey transfer to a far lower tier school or just ride it out here as a backup. I've seen nothing in his body language, body changes, or practice reports that makes me think he's convinced he's the man and willing to be a warrior to go and take it one day. When everyone's talented (which our QB room now is finally) it's the biggest dog that takes the lead.

Again, could be wrong.
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Just to get this straight - you're basing this on nothing tangible, it's purely speculative and vibez based.

And this vibez based approach is running counter to what the beat, who has unquestionably more access to the team than you do, has spoken about. I understand the next response will be "well they don't want to lose access" - when did that stop Prister from questioning Buchner in 2022 fall camp and his accuracy, what about Lorenzo Styles not having the "drive" during his slump in 2022? So, for two starters the beat did question the players ability and the players vibez. Which then arrives at the conclusion that the beat wouldn't care about writing a story on the #3 QB's vibez if they already demonstrated that they will do it for starters.

Your overall premise is - don't trust people with access to the team, trust me someone with no formal body language training (if you did, you would have already stated this) with no access to the team - as the authority on this subject.
 
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Loudest most obnoxious person you know talks about "what's not said speaks the loudest", can't make this up
 
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TorontoGold said:
Just to get this straight - you're basing this on nothing tangible, it's purely speculative and vibez based.

And this vibez based approach is running counter to what the beat, who has unquestionably more access to the team than you do, has spoken about. I understand the next response will be "well they don't want to lose access" - when did that stop Prister from questioning Buchner in 2022 fall camp and his accuracy, what about Lorenzo Styles not having the "drive" during his slump in 2022? So, for two starters the beat did question the players ability and the players vibez. Which then arrives at the conclusion that the beat wouldn't care about writing a story on the #3 QB's vibez if they already demonstrated that they will do it for starters.

Your overall premise is - don't trust people with access to the team, trust me someone with no formal body language training (if you did, you would have already stated this) with no access to the team - as the authority on this subject.
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Read first 10 words only to answer your question - yes - just as I sensed for Merriweather, with listed reasons why in both cases.

Make that as big of a deal as you want to.
 
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Lberry said:
Read first 10 words only to answer your question - yes - just as I sensed for Merriweather, with listed reasons why in both cases.

Make that as big of a deal as you want to.
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Merriweather had documented "drive" questions from the beat, so it's not an applicable example of your "vibez" sensor.

Just say you want to be a contrarian for the lolz because none of this is grounded in logic. It's annoying because we know players and/or their families read these threads and I can imagine it's frustrating to read word vomit about how their kid is not going to work out because vibez. You'll say "omg they need to grow up" without the self reflection that a (presumably) grown man with no concrete evidence is judging a student athlete's "want" on an internet forum.
 
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TorontoGold said:
Merriweather had documented "drive" questions from the beat, so it's not an applicable example of your "vibez" sensor.

Just say you want to be a contrarian for the lolz because none of this is grounded in logic. It's annoying because we know players and/or their families read these threads and I can imagine it's frustrating to read word vomit about how their kid is not going to work out because vibez. You'll say "omg they need to grow up" without the self reflection that a (presumably) grown man with no concrete evidence is judging a student athlete's "want" on an internet forum.
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Not a contrarian. There's no reports to contradict about his competitiveness, and that's about 1/5 of the reasons for my suspicion (well-documented above)

Also, has to be a big world out there if you think you're only allowed to have an opinion after a "reporter" says it for you (this is genuinely sad). Time to move out of the basement and spread your wings a bit ;). You might even have something to add other than every post of yours being nothing more than searching for the fault in what others see first.
 
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Lberry said:
Not a contrarian. There's no reports to contradict about his competitiveness, and that's about 1/5 the point I've made.

Also, has to be a big world out there if you think you're only allowed to have an opinion after an "analysts" says it for you. Time to move out of the basement and spread your wings ;).
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Cool so you're onboard with just questioning people's "want" with no evidence. I look forward to your further incredible analysis with such hits as "The birds outside Jason Onye's dorm is causing him to get poor sleep, and that is why he had only 14 snaps" or "Josh Burnham - why his resting bitch face is causing locker room issues".

I know my lane, and it's not body language analysis for high performance college athletes.
 
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Curious....... If you had to place a big wager on minchey starting 4 or more games in his career at ND. Are you taking the under or the over?
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All things being equal I'm taking the under because he's between an upperclassmen that I'm not sure will transfer out and a borderline 5 star with better "pedigree." Based on recent history I wouldn't be shocked if he winds up playing 3 years though.

There's a big difference between recognizing the odds of a kid starting in a crowded room, and saying that your spidey-sense tells you that a kid doesn't practice the right way because you don't think he looks serious enough while he's wearing a red cap on GameDay. The non-seriousness is further magnified when you get basic facts wrong in your initial argument (like saying Minchey is entering his third spring with the program when he was an EE freshman this past season). Then you add in the longstanding reputation of this poster as being about as accurate as Jim Kramer on buying/selling prospects... he's gonna get dunked on.
 
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greyhammer90 said:
All things being equal I'm taking the under because he's between an upperclassmen that I'm not sure will transfer out and a borderline 5 star with better "pedigree." Based on recent history I wouldn't be shocked if he winds up playing 3 years though.

There's a big difference between recognizing the odds of a kid starting in a crowded room, and saying that your spidey-sense tells you that a kid doesn't practice the right way because you don't think he looks serious enough while he's wearing a red cap on GameDay. The non-seriousness is further magnified when you get basic facts wrong in your initial argument (like saying Minchey is entering his third spring with the program when he was an EE freshman this past season). Then you add in the longstanding reputation of this poster as being about as accurate as Jim Kramer on buying/selling prospects... he's gonna get dunked on.
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I get it, i agree with Lberry a good bit, but we slightly differ here. I went to a bunch of games last year and the QB room as a whole was really weird between the 3 of them. No one seemed really that locked in or much of a leader before or during the games. Again, weird.

How the QBs warmed up before the full team warmups I've never seen anything like it.
 
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All things being equal I'm taking the under because he's between an upperclassmen that I'm not sure will transfer out and a borderline 5 star with better "pedigree." Based on recent history I wouldn't be shocked if he winds up playing 3 years though.

There's a big difference between recognizing the odds of a kid starting in a crowded room, and saying that your spidey-sense tells you that a kid doesn't practice the right way because you don't think he looks serious enough while he's wearing a red cap on GameDay. The non-seriousness is further magnified when you get basic facts wrong in your initial argument (like saying Minchey is entering his third spring with the program when he was an EE freshman this past season). Then you add in the longstanding reputation of this poster as being about as accurate as Jim Kramer on buying/selling prospects... he's gonna get dunked on.
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PutuporShutup said:
I get it, i agree with Lberry a good bit, but we slightly differ here. I went to a bunch of games last year and the QB room as a whole was really weird between the 3 of them. No one seemed really that locked in or much of a leader before or during the games. Again, weird.

How the QBs warmed up before the full team warmups I've never seen anything like it.
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I’m inclined to believe you agree w KoonLBerry here because it’s a different user name but same password as you.
 
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Lberry said:
Read first 10 words only to answer your question - yes - just as I sensed for Merriweather, with listed reasons why in both cases.

Make that as big of a deal as you want to.
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I feel a Ouija board coming out from under the basement couch.
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Lberry said:
Again, could be wrong.
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If anyone posits about any incoming quarterback prospect that said random quarterback prospect won't eventually materialize into the starting quarterback at their program--they have a pretty high statistical probability of being right

Its not exactly breaking new ground or something

The issue is that you're just throwing out some totally subjective and arbitrary data point that can never be proven as to one way or another for ultimately being the reason that Minchey does or doesn't end up being the starting qb

If Minchey doesn't end up being the starting quarterback it could be for a myriad of reasons other than "he doesn't have the dog in him"

Most people have the self awareness to realize all this and see how its such a non-starter thought in their that it doesn't warrant traveling from their brain all the way to words appearing on a message board

But usually--at a minimum--most people would have the self awareness to qualify their thoughts a little bit or be open to hearing other people's thoughts and not go around essentially passing their own thoughts off as irrefutable facts

Also--hate to burst your bubble--but the above "doesn't have that dog" train of thought doesn't track for Merriweather either

There could again be a myriad of reasons why he didn't pan out. Frankly to me his biggest problem was he looked like an uncoordinated spaz out there. Not that he wasn't some alpha dog competitor

The fact that you're constantly running around doing victory laps about your "Merriweather Prediction" is also pretty pathetic when at least 50% of the board felt that way about him too. Again, you weren't exactly blazing trails there

Lastly, just know that around here most people don't look at players thru the singular prism of "Will this player ultimately make ND the most amazing team in cfb history or not?"

We all have the ability to discern that Player X won't eventually materialize into a NFL HoF. You don't need to make that observation for all of us on every player in every player thread on this message board
 
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