'24 TX S Oliver Miles (Texas Tech Verbal)

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I don’t agree with what you just said above, but you’re certainly welcome to your opinion.

It’s absolving him of blame that any other position coach would receive with his results. Did you have the same energy for Del?
Which parts don’t you agree with?

You blame him for Bowen doing everything he did?
You blame him for Hillman getting turned down last second by admissions?

You blame him for Freeman’s decision on Mencke?

You don’t think he is a good coach?

I’m not absolving him of blame.
And Del and him aren’t even in the same category.
 

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Which parts don’t you agree with?

You blame him for Bowen doing everything he did?
You blame him for Hillman getting turned down last second by admissions?

You blame him for Freeman’s decision on Mencke?

You don’t think he is a good coach?

I’m not absolving him of blame.
And Del and him aren’t even in the same category.
I don’t blame him for any one particular of those. Recruiting is 50% of the job. Results haven’t been good enough. I agree with Lucky that freeman deserves some blame here. I agree thar Golden isn’t pulling his weight recruiting as DC and not sure why we are happy to rehab his career after the mehh ish product he had last year. But like most here fucking sick of many competitive teams being hamstrung by one under recruited position year after year.
 

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Tae is A LOT bigger than JoJo.
I think he meant stay in school academic risk. And yes makes me worried. We have seen this far too many times. This cycle needed damn near five safeties and your giving me a linebacker, an academic risk wide receiver, and then what? Canceling visits with a high floor Gallegos and playing tough guy with high floor Menke. Tired of watching big healthy position board turn into a what the fuck by own decisions.
 

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I would agree with this. Everyone but the staff knew he wasn’t coming to ND.
Which is why they pursued Minich and Hillman.

Again, I don't know what else you wanted them to do? They knew Bowen was a flight risk and they pursued contingency plans. It's not their fault one of the contingencies couldn't get into school.
 

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Which is why they pursued Minich and Hillman.

Again, I don't know what else you wanted them to do? They knew Bowen was a flight risk and they pursued contingency plans. It's not their fault one of the contingencies couldn't get into school.
How about tell him he can’t visit if he’s committed
 

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I think he meant stay in school academic risk. And yes makes me worried. We have seen this far too many times. This cycle needed damn near five safeties and your giving me a linebacker, an academic risk wide receiver, and then what? Canceling visits with a high floor Gallegos and playing tough guy with high floor Menke. Tired of watching big healthy position board turn into a what the fuck by own decisions.
JoJo was a very late take in '21 and never visited.

Tae has been pursued for a while, was told he needed to take care of things academically, and did. To me, I don't see them as similar. Tae may not have been in good enough academic standing to get admitted, but he clearly cares about getting right enough academically to get in. That's enough for me. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to make it at ND. If you're willing to put in the work, you'll make it.
 

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How about tell him he can’t visit if he’s committed
What exactly does that accomplish?

You tell him he can't visit elsewhere, and he still decommits. And making demands like that only serves to make you look bad down the road with other kids. It wasn't like receiver in '22, where they sat on recruiting after getting 3 guys, 2 of which were wavering for months.

Freeman did the right thing. Let Bowen take his unofficials, and go after safety recruits as a contingency for Bowen. Saying he can't take unofficials while committed only hurts ND at that point.
 

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Which parts don’t you agree with?

You blame him for Bowen doing everything he did?
You blame him for Hillman getting turned down last second by admissions?

You blame him for Freeman’s decision on Mencke?

You don’t think he is a good coach?

I’m not absolving him of blame.
And Del and him aren’t even in the same category.
No, I don’t think he’s a good enough coach to make up for the other half of his job being the weakest link on the coaching staff.

This isn’t a one-year phenomenon with O’Leary. It’s been an issue each cycle and it’s continuing to be an issue. But I guess it can continue to be Marcus and Golden’s fault for being dicks and messing with their own safeties coach.
 
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No, I don’t think he’s a good enough coach to make up for the other half of his job being the weakest link on the coaching staff.

This isn’t a one-year phenomenon with O’Leary. It’s been an issue each cycle and it’s continuing to be an issue. But I guess it can continue to be Marcus and Golden’s fault for being dicks and messing with their own safeties coach.
You're not absolving him of blame, but you've yet to provide ANY sort of logic that supports the idea that he should be blamed for what happened last year at Safety.

The difference between the situation with O'Leary and Del is that O'Leary and Freeman made sure they had contingencies for the possibility that Bowen de-committed. The problem is that one of those contingencies signed and then admissions decided to pull the rug from underneath them. So again, how does he deserve ANY of the blame there?
 

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WHERE ARE HIS SAFETIES?!
Lol..

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Btw… so hot
 
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