'24 MA OT Guerby Lambert (Notre Dame Signee)

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stlnd01 said:
Yeah I would not expect Lambert will start this season. But it's not because he didn't EE. His high school competition is nowhere near what it would take for a freshman to step in and play tackle at this level. You don't see pass rushers like the ones employed by A&M and Florida State in the Greater Boston Catholic Conference.
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Joe Alt was third string. Coaches don’t trust freshman tackles.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Fair. Hopefully they've been battling for years.

There's talent in Massachusetts high school football, it's just not especially deep. CM is one of the very best programs in the state, and shares a conference with a couple of the others. As big time as it gets around here. But, like, last year they went to Florida to play a big-time team down there and got just rocked.
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Regardless, I think Lambert will be a good one. I just don't like the idea of rushing OLs onto the field.
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Normally I'm with ya, and those two on the same team in that area is an outlier.
 
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OKCDomer23 said:
The quicker Lambert is ready to go the better. A believe a camp battle is about to begin at right tackle with Wagner and Baker. I wouldn't sleep on Wagner as although smaller, he's very athletic. Critical we get good play out of our tackles.
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There is smaller, and then there is too small. Unfortunately, Wagner seems to be approaching the latter. 290 seems way, way too small for a CFP level football team.
 
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arrowryan said:
There is smaller, and then there is too small. Unfortunately, Wagner seems to be approaching the latter. 290 seems way, way too small for a CFP level football team.
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Fans may think differently about this if Baker gets torched regularly off the edge. Wagner is attempting to put on weight. Prister has implied this will be a camp battle. Still only June.
 
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I think Blake dominating Foskey in spring ball had way more to do with his getting his opportunity in the fall, than his rating. Also, let's not pretend that Alt was ready when he got here, because he wasn't. Blake was clearly the better OT before he got hurt.
 
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NDFAN2008 said:
Ideally you want your tackles ablut 320-330
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Weight doesn’t matter as much as if they can use their hands, move their feet & push opponents.
Baker outweighs Wagoner by a lot.
But if you talk to anyone at ND, they will tell you Wagoner moves people better than Baker.
 
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jprue24 said:
I think Blake dominating Foskey in spring ball had way more to do with his getting his opportunity in the fall, than his rating. Also, let's not pretend that Alt was ready when he got here, because he wasn't. Blake was clearly the better OT before he got hurt.
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So in 6 weeks alt went from fourth best to the best, with in season practices that have almost no development and limited weight lifting?
 
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ND7983 said:
Weight doesn’t matter as much as if they can use their hands, move their feet & push opponents.
Baker outweighs Wagoner by a lot.
But if you talk to anyone at ND, they will tell you Wagoner moves people better than Baker.
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Thank you. I've seen what Baker can do. Not impressed so far. I wanna see what Wagner can do. 11th rank tackle in his class per 247. 3rd year in the program. Deserves a real shot now.
 
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PutuporShutup said:
So in 6 weeks alt went from fourth best to the best, with in season practices that have almost no development and limited weight lifting?
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That's a pretty disingenuous framing of the situation. I also don't think you are accurately portraying what Joe Alt was (6'8 305) and what the coaches expectations where for him when ND broke fall camp his freshman year.
 
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Alt actually did start off as a TE at ND, & lined up as a TE in games before moving to tackle.
 
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ND7983 said:
Alt actually did start off as a TE at ND, & lined up as a TE in games before moving to tackle.
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Right, he'd pull 46 on over 76. That didn't happen right away, though and I think was a product of Baker and Carmody's ability to hold up.
 
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arrowryan said:
There is smaller, and then there is too small. Unfortunately, Wagner seems to be approaching the latter. 290 seems way, way too small for a CFP level football team.
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Robert Hainsey started at RT for both the '18 and '20 playoff squads and at that time, he was only around 290.
 
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Blake started at Tackle because there was a black hole there and he came early and so he got lots of spring reps.

Alt may not have been “ready” but the fact that he was behind Baker and Carmody shows you how comfortable coaches are playing fall freshman at OL. Alt isn’t some pretty good OT, he was a top 5 draft pick. It was immediately evident that Baker was not as good.
 
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Was Alt really a TE though as freshman? I’m pretty sure he was listed around 295-300Ibs. He played as a jumbo TE attached to the OT, similar to what Stanford did back in the day under Harbaugh.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
He got his first game action playing TE. That isn't anywhere remotely the same as saying he started out as a TE at ND.

He was an OT that they utilized as a big TE in certain packages.
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When he showed up at ND, he worked with the TE’s.
I know, I saw it with my own two eyes.
He started with the TEs.
 
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ND7983 said:
When he showed up at ND, he worked with the TE’s.
I know, I saw it with my own two eyes.
He started with the TEs.
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How long after showing up did he switch to OL? He was in the two deep as of Sep 8th so he had to have been working as OL for a majority of camp.

My only assumption based off of comments from Rees was that they didn't expect Alt to come in with a lot of strength. Rees went on to say they were mistaken. So I guess I can buy that they started him out at TE until they figured out he had the strength to compete at OL.

I can buy that he might have spent a couple of weeks in camp working primarily with the TE's. When the season started he was an OL that played a little TE.
 
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ND fans have seen what can happen with highly ranked but under sized OL and it has us running scared.
 
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Alt was probably working out with the TEs because they didn’t have plans to play him at OT but thought he could be part of a jumbo package.
 
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