'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[GATTACA!]

Is Koon still Loy?

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[arrowryan]

I'll be super pumped when he's committed and done taking visits. For now, I'm not a fan of how the staff is playing this. I don't think the risk/reward makes sense. The upside is you get 1 of the 2 QB's to commit. The downside is you get neither by alienating Vizzina and Moore might find something that he is clearly looking for. If you just keep recruiting Vizzina then you can keep the door open to both. I'm sure this is very similar to last cycle when they started taking silent commits, even public commits, from guys that were still taking visits. I think that strategy was pretty much a wash. Some worked out and some did not. The problem is, we can't afford to have it happen at QB this cycle like it did at WR.

I agree with this.

If they lose out on both, fire me into the sun and I’ll pack Rees’ bags for him.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Why don't you like him, specifically? Or is it cause it's the cool thing to do?

 

[ThePiombino]

This I do not understand. So ND loosens ties with an elite prospect in an attempt to show "all in" for another which could ultimately leave them with neither at any point on the whim of a 17 year old.

Does this seem wise to you guys?

What could go wrong?

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[IrishRazor82]

5 minute free video of Moore following LSU and Michigan.

Elite 2023 QB target Dante Moore recaps Michigan visit

Elite 2023 quarterback Dante Moore discusses his recent visit to Michigan, a weekend trip to LSU, his relationship with Semaj Morgan and more.

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[ThePiombino]

Excitement around having a 5 star QB potentially committed is significantly lower than where it should be.

Only because he hasn't publicly verballed yet. Soon. Soon...

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[NDFAN2008]

I'm just not a fan whose to say Michigan isn't telling Moore to lead us along until the last minute and flip to Michigan they did this exact thing with Walker.

 

[ThePiombino]

It just makes no sense to not recruit other QB's until a QB is publicly committed to the class.

Agreed.

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[IrishRazor82]

I'm just not a fan whose to say Michigan isn't telling Moore to lead us along until the last minute and flip to Michigan they did this exact thing with Walker.

How often does that happen vs how many times what the analysts are hinting at repeatedly actually hit? I can think of two on the former (Walker, Braiden McGreggor). I can think of dozens on the latter.

And jerking BK around is one thing, do you really think Moore wants to do that to MF and TR? I don't.

 

[Dale]

I also don’t believe Walker was like in on this long con against ND, I think he was mostly just a coward in not having the decommitment convo and we somehow never pressed him on it

 

[GATTACA!]

I'm just not a fan whose to say Michigan isn't telling Moore to lead us along until the last minute and flip to Michigan they did this exact thing with Walker.

 

[irishog77]

It just makes no sense to not recruit other QB's until a QB is publicly committed to the class.

I agree.

I don’t think the staff is not recruiting other QB’s though. I think the staff is still recruiting others, they have just been honest and straightforward with them about their QB board that Moore is at the top.
Could that still backfire? Sure. But I think they’re still on top of it and talking with other QB’s.

 

[Luckylucci]

I agree.

I don’t think the staff is not recruiting other QB’s though. I think the staff is still recruiting others, they have just been honest and straightforward with them about their QB board that Moore is at the top.
Could that still backfire? Sure. But I think they’re still on top of it and talking with other QB’s.

Well, if there are no other '23 QB's scheduled to visit and the one that was, we told not to come, I don't think we're really recruiting other QB's. It's just like when we were recruiting other WR's last year yet none of them ever came to visit. You're not really recruiting guys unless you are scheduling visits and trying to get them on campus.

 

[irishog77]

,... and that was where irishog77 gave up on women entirely,....


Anyway, this thread continually being at the top of the board concerns me... I stopped following recruiting bc the drama... I assume this thread is covering DRAMA... correct?

Correction, that’s when I gave up GIRLS. Then I switched to WOMEN. It was nice being 13 and having a lady to drive me around, buy me smokes and booze, and hang out at her house when all my buddies were spending their nights watching Urkell and waiting for their parents to drive them to the store and give them money to buy Vanilla Ice’s cassette.

 

[DONALDIII]

You have 3 years of Pyne, 2 years of Buchner, 4 years of Angeli after the 2022 season. You miss on Moore then you can close on Avery from KS and then get Sayin in 2024 class.

I don't think it's killer if we miss on Moore, as long as we get someone in 2023 and lock up a top 5 QB recruit in 2024

 

[ColinKSU]

This I do not understand. So ND loosens ties with an elite prospect in an attempt to show "all in" for another which could ultimately leave them with neither at any point on the whim of a 17 year old.

Does this seem wise to you guys?

It sure doesn't seem wise to me, unless the staff knows something we don't. If they're just trying to show Dante that they're all-in, then they're taking an unnecessary risk.

 

[IrishRazor82]

You have 3 years of Pyne, 2 years of Buchner, 4 years of Angeli after the 2022 season. You miss on Moore then you can close on Avery from KS and then get Sayin in 2024 class.

I don't think it's killer if we miss on Moore, as long as we get someone in 2023 and lock up a top 5 QB recruit in 2024

I love Avery as an athlete but rumor is his throwing makes Buchner look like Aaron Rodgers.

Also, I think this is part of the broken ND fan mindset. Michigan just went McNamara > 5 star > and is all in on another 5 star. They want a stud every year and we should too.

 

[irishog77]

Well, if there are no other '23 QB's scheduled to visit and the one that was, we told not to come, I don't think we're really recruiting other QB's. It's just like when we were recruiting other WR's last year yet none of them ever came to visit. You're not really recruiting guys unless you are scheduling visits and trying to get them on campus.

I think that’s a bit shortsighted. One, we don’t always know guys visit schedules. And two, I think CV was more told “hang on a second” rather than “don’t come, because we don’t want you and we’re not recruiting you anymore.”

Again, I’m not saying the staff necessarily has the best strategy going. But I think it indicates that they are in a good position with Moore. I also take solace in that the best recruiter is the HC and is in charge of all the recruiting. I don’t think they’re going to be caught with their dick in their hands like they were multiple times under Burnt Ends.

 

[irish2104]

ISD on power hour stated staff wished Vizzina would of visited but trip to Ole Miss was a lot closer but who knows. Sure seems like a LOT of smoke with Moore....

 

[Luckylucci]

I think that’s a bit shortsighted. One, we don’t always know guys visit schedules. And two, I think CV was more told “hang on a second” rather than “don’t come, because we don’t want you and we’re not recruiting you anymore.”

Again, I’m not saying the staff necessarily has the best strategy going. But I think it indicates that they are in a good position with Moore. I also take solace in that the best recruiter is the HC and is in charge of all the recruiting. I don’t think they’re going to be caught with their dick in their hands like they were multiple times under Burnt Ends.

Eventually it has the same impact. You don't tell other 5 star QB's to "hang on a second" because they don't have too. While the words may sound different, they are taken the same. Vizzina quickly scheduled a visit to Ole Miss. He's not waiting around for ND. Once he moves on, it doesn't matter how we rationalize what was said. If he visits ND, then none of this matters.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Eventually it has the same impact. You don't tell other 5 star QB's to "hang on a second" because they don't have too. While the words may sound different, they are taken the same. Vizzina quickly scheduled a visit to Ole Miss. He's not waiting around for ND. Once he moves on, it doesn't matter how we rationalize what was said. If he visits ND, then none of this matters.

This all day

 

[HouseofPain]

I think that’s a bit shortsighted. One, we don’t always know guys visit schedules. And two, I think CV was more told “hang on a second” rather than “don’t come, because we don’t want you and we’re not recruiting you anymore.”

This is a great way to honk of a great player with tons of options. Nothing like making an A team player feel 2nd best...

Cant imagine that going over well

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

You have 3 years of Pyne, 2 years of Buchner, 4 years of Angeli after the 2022 season. You miss on Moore then you can close on Avery from KS and then get Sayin in 2024 class.

I don't think it's killer if we miss on Moore, as long as we get someone in 2023 and lock up a top 5 QB recruit in 2024

No. More panic, less logic.

 

[IrishBoognish]

I'll speculate!

I could see the conversation going something like this:

"Hey Chris, Dante' has told us he's likely going to commit really soon. If/when he does, we're going to lock him in. We are still very interested in you and would love you here. But we feel, in light of this, the best thing for you is to take your other visits first. We want to be honest with you, youre time is valuable and you should use it the best you can."


Seems reasonable, yeah?

 

[Dale]

This is a great way to honk of a great player with tons of options. Nothing like making an A team player feel 2nd best...

Cant imagine that going over well

He most likely ends up at Clemson if not here, where he 100% knows he was second choice and has had that convo with the Clemson staff.

 

[Dale]

I think speculating that we aren’t recruiting Vizzina is silly unless reported that we aren’t recruiting Vizzina. We have no idea what backed off means yet. Maybe they were straight up like Boog above said, maybe they told him not to come like Lucci, maybe they told him hold off like Hog. Maybe they lied and made an excuse (staff gone, visit for a practice etc). Maybe talk has just waned off and so Vizzina decided to visit the school pushing the last few weeks to visit on their big visit weekend and ND didn’t even have to directly have convo with him? Too much maybe and possibilities IMO

 

[Irish4life]

It sure doesn't seem wise to me, unless the staff knows something we don't. If they're just trying to show Dante that they're all-in, then they're taking an unnecessary risk.

Shockingly, I think the coaching staff knows more about where this recruitment is headed than fans on a message board.

 

[beryirish]

You have 3 years of Pyne, 2 years of Buchner, 4 years of Angeli after the 2022 season. You miss on Moore then you can close on Avery from KS and then get Sayin in 2024 class.

I don't think it's killer if we miss on Moore, as long as we get someone in 2023 and lock up a top 5 QB recruit in 2024

Also, you have to take into account that a QB can impact the offensive side of the recruiting class. Moore is a lot of hype/talent. Other top-notch WR/RB/OL want to go where the talent goes. If ND misses out of Moore then it could persuade other top offensive talent to look elsewhere.

 

[irishfan]

How do people think Bama/UGA/OSU recruit in these situations?

 

[IrishRazor82]

How do people think Bama/UGA/OSU recruit in these situations?

Or even Michigan. McNamara > 5 Star McCaffrey > Going hard after 5 star Moore.

There's a broken mindset among ND fans about QB recruiting, you need to pile up elite talent because most don't live up.