'23 CA QB Nico Iamaleava (Tennessee Verbal)

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I want to see him fail so bad. I am tired of "fans" defending the "poor innocent college kid" from big bad meanies. These over-entitled kids no longer have my sympathy. I hope no team picks him up and he gets $0...
Pretty sure his Dad screwed him over. Will say he has not conducted himself properly after but these kids though process now is that they have all the leverage in any given situation.
 

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I feel like we had our own little Nico situation with Deuce. You all could say that “Heupel and the Tennessee staff should have known better!” but we were right there in the same boat with courting Deuce.

Thankfully we aren’t dealing with that anymore
 

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I want to see him fail so bad. I am tired of "fans" defending the "poor innocent college kid" from big bad meanies. These over-entitled kids no longer have my sympathy. I hope no team picks him up and he gets $0...
Same. Maybe he becomes the Kaepernick of DI football
 

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I want to see him fail so bad. I am tired of "fans" defending the "poor innocent college kid" from big bad meanies. These over-entitled kids no longer have my sympathy. I hope no team picks him up and he gets $0...
I don’t see anyone, anywhere defending Nico. I’m just not going to disparage all athletes based on the worst version of one of them. That’s supposed to be saved for the political threads.
 

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Him going into the transfer portal with a "do not contact" tag probably means that everyone who's hoping he's going to get completely railroaded are going to be disappointed.
I'm really surprised he didn't have something lined up prior to pulling his stunt. He or his dad had to be very short sighted to think UT would just say okay, we'll tell the collective to give you more money. My suspicion is he has a "do not contact" because he has specific schools he's reaching out to.
 

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The hand wringing often begins as soon as the help start getting some leverage and getting theirs. That's a lot of what is going on right now. The players are getting money above board, are allowed to move year to year if they choose, are playing 5, 6, 7 years. They have the same freedom as everyone else, and they didn't have said freedom before. Change is scary.

Does it suck? No, I don't think it does. I think a lot of people don't like it because they never got it, can't get it and never will. Wealth worship leads to wealth envy. I think if a university wants to pay a man $10M a year to coach their football team, they're well within their rights to do that and the guy should take the job if he wants it. Someone is likely going to take it.

If said program then wants to pay millions of dollars to a HS recruit to play QB for them, that's well within their right as well. People may not like it, but this is the market we're currently in and if that's what they feel the market will bear.

Everybody should get what they can, when they can, however they can. Especially in athletics. You're yesterday's news before you know it and once your ability to win people games dries up, you're just about totally forgotten.
 

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The hand wringing often begins as soon as the help start getting some leverage and getting theirs. That's a lot of what is going on right now. The players are getting money above board, are allowed to move year to year if they choose, are playing 5, 6, 7 years. They have the same freedom as everyone else, and they didn't have said freedom before. Change is scary.

Does it suck? No, I don't think it does. I think a lot of people don't like it because they never got it, can't get it and never will. Wealth worship leads to wealth envy. I think if a university wants to pay a man $10M a year to coach their football team, they're well within their rights to do that and the guy should take the job if he wants it. Someone is likely going to take it.

If said program then wants to pay millions of dollars to a HS recruit to play QB for them, that's well within their right as well. People may not like it, but this is the market we're currently in and if that's what they feel the market will bear.

Everybody should get what they can, when they can, however they can. Especially in athletics. You're yesterday's news before you know it and once your ability to win people games dries up, you're just about totally forgotten.
Probably a good idea to focus on getting a decent education as well, that will help you after you’re forgotten.
 

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The hand wringing often begins as soon as the help start getting some leverage and getting theirs. That's a lot of what is going on right now. The players are getting money above board, are allowed to move year to year if they choose, are playing 5, 6, 7 years. They have the same freedom as everyone else, and they didn't have said freedom before. Change is scary.

Does it suck? No, I don't think it does. I think a lot of people don't like it because they never got it, can't get it and never will. Wealth worship leads to wealth envy. I think if a university wants to pay a man $10M a year to coach their football team, they're well within their rights to do that and the guy should take the job if he wants it. Someone is likely going to take it.

If said program then wants to pay millions of dollars to a HS recruit to play QB for them, that's well within their right as well. People may not like it, but this is the market we're currently in and if that's what they feel the market will bear.

Everybody should get what they can, when they can, however they can. Especially in athletics. You're yesterday's news before you know it and once your ability to win people games dries up, you're just about totally forgotten.
This is looking at it from a "strictly business" standpoint, but it is obviously complicated by multiple things, first and foremost is the affinity-based loyalty attached to college sports. A lot of people don't understand how someone could have the opportunity to go to their beloved school and not take that and run with it. But for a lot of kids and their families, this is entirely a business decision: yes, the ND 4 for 40 mindset makes a lot of sense and is a sound long-term business decision...but so is maximizing income in the immediate term and making sound investments with the excess disposable income. If someone offered you the chance to quit your job tomorrow in exchange for $2 million, very few here wouldn't do that, but at the same time nobody is going to send hate mail to your house or call you or your family every horrible thing that pops in their head because you stopped working at their real estate agency or at their bank.
 

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The hand wringing often begins as soon as the help start getting some leverage and getting theirs. That's a lot of what is going on right now. The players are getting money above board, are allowed to move year to year if they choose, are playing 5, 6, 7 years. They have the same freedom as everyone else, and they didn't have said freedom before. Change is scary.

Does it suck? No, I don't think it does. I think a lot of people don't like it because they never got it, can't get it and never will. Wealth worship leads to wealth envy. I think if a university wants to pay a man $10M a year to coach their football team, they're well within their rights to do that and the guy should take the job if he wants it. Someone is likely going to take it.

If said program then wants to pay millions of dollars to a HS recruit to play QB for them, that's well within their right as well. People may not like it, but this is the market we're currently in and if that's what they feel the market will bear.

Everybody should get what they can, when they can, however they can. Especially in athletics. You're yesterday's news before you know it and once your ability to win people games dries up, you're just about totally forgotten.

I agree in principal, but I think this is where there's a simple reality that unfettered capitalistic greed runs counter to team sports. Every great team requires some individual sacrifice. Even in the NFL there are lots of examples of QBs passing on bigger money to get more weapons on the team. You can both say that a guy is just making the most of his short window and that he's a team cancer.
 

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Probably a good idea to focus on getting a decent education as well, that will help you after you’re forgotten.
I agree, but how many of these schools over the years even before NIL and the Portal give these guys full access to that education? You're at the vast majority of these schools to play football. You are a football player.

If NIL is allowing these guys to receive millions of dollars prior to even setting foot on campus, what's getting a degree really going to look like? Hell, anyone here can go back and get a degree right now if we wanted. Imagine having a couple of million in the bank at 20 years old. If football doesn't work out, go back at 25 and get your degree.

Jerome Bettis is a great example.
 

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I agree in principal, but I think this is where there's a simple reality that unfettered capitalistic greed runs counter to team sports. Every great team requires some individual sacrifice. Even in the NFL there are lots of examples of QBs passing on bigger money to get more weapons on the team. You can both say that a guy is just making the most of his short window and that he's a team cancer.
Absolutely true.

I would just say I take caution in assuming I know all of the details from the beginning to the present. These programs and the people lurking around them used to have to do all of this stuff under the table. Now it's all above board but that doesn't mean that things can be miscommunicated if not flat out LIED ABOUT when these discussions are being had over the course of a recruitment and or enrollment.

QB1 is it at every level of football for the most part. You have to have a dude if you're going to compete for a championship. These programs, and we all know the ones, are going to do whatever they have to by any means necessary to get the guy.

You play in the mud with the Dante Moores and Nicos, you could very well get dirty.
 

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I agree, but how many of these schools over the years even before NIL and the Portal give these guys full access to that education? You're at the vast majority of these schools to play football. You are a football player.

If NIL is allowing these guys to receive millions of dollars prior to even setting foot on campus, what's getting a degree really going to look like? Hell, anyone here can go back and get a degree right now if we wanted. Imagine having a couple of million in the bank at 20 years old. If football doesn't work out, go back at 25 and get your degree.

Jerome Bettis is a great example.
I think most, if not all, of the schools have given the players full access to the education. However, many of the schools haven’t prioritized the education nor given the players full support to assist them in getting said education. Many athletes have been enabled from an education standpoint even prior to college. The demands on them from a time standpoint as football players is great (players in other sports as well). It should be up to each individual player to focus on their education. I realize this is not always the case for a plethora of reasons but it should be a priority for each student athlete. It’s a different type of investment than getting paid right now with a lack of education and a subpar support system. Ideally, you make some money AND get a decent education.
 

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I heard Todd Mcshay talk on a podcast how a lot of these college kids don’t want their NIL deals made public due to all the family members in their lives who will come out for the money. We joke about Uncles here but it’s very real for a lot of these guys. College football may be only 2nd to boxing on the amount of shady individuals trying to screw the athlete over.
 

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I think most, if not all, of the schools have given the players full access to the education. However, many of the schools haven’t prioritized the education nor given the players full support to assist them in getting said education. Many athletes have been enabled from an education standpoint even prior to college. The demands on them from a time standpoint as football players is great (players in other sports as well). It should be up to each individual player to focus on their education. I realize this is not always the case for a plethora of reasons but it should be a priority for each student athlete. It’s a different type of investment than getting paid right now with a lack of education and a subpar support system. Ideally, you make some money AND get a decent education.
If it comes down to wanting to take a particular class during the time you have to lift or be at practice, you're not going to get to take that class. It really is that simple.

This is true for big time college football athletes as much as it is for men's swimming or women's soccer. The scholarship means you're scheduling around the sport. You're there for the sport first and foremost.

I think we could discuss that not prioritizing is one in the same with not giving access.

You're right, however, that in the end it is up to the individual athlete to determine what they want to put into the education portion of it. So many of them, including football and men's basketball, are done playing once college is over. If you are self aware enough to know you need a plan to move on, you'll use the scholarship and whatever access you're given toward charting out a course.
 

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Makes sense. Riddle me this then Colin, why did Madden flip from UCLA to Arkansas and run Petrino’s offense on NSD 3 months ago?
If UCLA is dusting off the checkbook, maybe Madden comes home too?
 

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Makes sense. Riddle me this then Colin, why did Madden flip from UCLA to Arkansas and run Petrino’s offense on NSD 3 months ago?
Cowherd is exactly the kind of guy you'd go to if you wanted someone to buy what you're selling on this front.
 

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I could see UCLA over paying for a QB. Given state of USC, there's no reason they need to play second fiddle in LA. Go for the throat, NIL can raise and crush programs quickly.
 

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If it is UCLA, this is going to play out as I explained: going to a team with inferior talent, inferior coaching, and this will not help his NFL draft stock if there even is one.
 

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He’s from Orange County, right? At least this move (albeit an inferior, descent in terms of the two programs) makes sense in terms of being closer to home.
 

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Pretty interesting article. Was looking around back in December. Contacted Oregon right before spring practice began. Ducks said no thanks and then told UT Nico was looking around. Contract would have paid him $10M total. Looks like UCLA has made an offer, but it's far short of the $2.4M per year he wants. Sounds like UCLA isn't going to get into a bidding war either.

 
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