'21 TN OLB Prince Kollie (Notre Dame Signee)

[irishandy]

Kids really don't want to be patient any more and want to take the easy way out.

I think any of our back-up LB's can play a key reserve role this year. Bertrand, Kiser and Marist have the experience & of the 3 Bertrand is my favorite & has been the most consistent.

The concussion story was B.S.? Enjoy Vandy.

 

[T-Boone]

Kids really don't want to be patient any more and want to take the easy way out.

I think any of our back-up LB's can play a key reserve role this year. Bertrand, Kiser and Marist have the experience & of the 3 Bertrand is my favorite & has been the most consistent.

The concussion story was B.S.? Enjoy Vandy.

I keep hearing ND is going to only play with 2 LBs most of the year so where are the back ups going to be getting on the field?.

 

[irishandy]

I keep hearing ND is going to only play with 2 LBs most of the year so where are the back ups going to be getting on the field?.

Playing w/ 2 LB's...I wonder why the change. They seem to be recruiting linebackers.

 

[ulukinatme]

from what i've heard is that he had difficulty picking up the defense...great athlete and player just didn't know where to be and responsibilities

The curse of Nyles Morgan.

 

[T-Boone]

Playing w/ 2 LB's...I wonder why the change. They seem to be recruiting linebackers.

Is t it just due to playing nickel a lot more.

 

[JamIrish]

So Kiser is playing more Will and Liufau is being used more off the ball which means Kollie was third string at Will. He didn't redshirt so basically it's similar to Styles. Do you stay and burn eligibility on SPT or mop up duty? Do you redshirt and be a backup one year and maybe start your final year? Or transfer somewhere where you can possibly start for 2 years. They decided to try to start somewhere else. Best of Luck to both of them 🍀.

 

[T-Boone]

So Kiser is playing more Will and Liufau is being used more off the ball which means Kollie was third string at Will. He didn't redshirt so basically it's similar to Styles. Do you stay and burn eligibility on SPT or mop up duty? Do you redshirt and be a backup one year and maybe start your final year? Or transfer somewhere where you can possibly start for 2 years. They decided to try to start somewhere else. Best of Luck to both of them 🍀.

What does it mean to be being “used off the ball”. He seems to have mastered that.

 

[JamIrish]

What does it mean to be being “used off the ball”. He seems to have mastered that.

So apparently, they see it as Liufau playing more in space and playing outside in pass coverage/ dropping in zone. Jamie U said that according to PFF Liufau was the top rated linebacker in pass coverage last year. Kiser they want the opposite, more inside and attacking the ball, less pass coverage and playing in space.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Gentlemen, we've seen this sort of thing many times at ND and I'll bet they see it all over.
The best eye-test guy still needs to know what the hell to do better than the next guy or
he is NOT the better player. Way back when I first found IE, ND had a LB who wowed the eye-test
(forget his name --- made a film session by jumping out of a swimming pool flatfooted.) Really
nice guy, but could not pick up any part of the scheme well enough to play. It was sadly
pathetic. He was trying and couldn't make it click. (and classroom brains do NOT always
translate to this sort of thing --- especially with linebacking, it is a different sort of intelligence
(more akin to geospatial intelligence+ Kinetic awareness than analysis --- Magic Johnson "saw"
things before they happened. He was not the best eye-test athlete.) That ND wonderful athlete
was never really functional at anything but special teams. Another linebacking case was the big
guy who finally replaced Schmitt ... another wonderful fellow who couldn't get it either. Elko, out
of desperation, "solved" the problem by having him just battering ram one gap every play ---
hardly ideal, but we were really thin at LB talent then. That guy SLOWLY got a little better as the
season went on.

EYETEST does not equal better player.

General IQ does not necessarily translate into Magic Johnson awareness and instincts. How do
we not already know this? We've had loads of teaching examples.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Gentlemen, we've seen this sort of thing many times at ND and I'll bet they see it all over.
The best eye-test guy still needs to know what the hell to do better than the next guy or
he is NOT the better player. Way back when I first found IE, ND had a LB who wowed the eye-test
(forget his name --- made a film session by jumping out of a swimming pool flatfooted.) Really
nice guy, but could not pick up any part of the scheme well enough to play. It was sadly
pathetic. He was trying and couldn't make it click. (and classroom brains do NOT always
translate to this sort of thing --- especially with linebacking, it is a different sort of intelligence
(more akin to geospatial intelligence+ Kinetic awareness than analysis --- Magic Johnson "saw"
things before they happened. He was not the best eye-test athlete.) That ND wonderful athlete
was never really functional at anything but special teams. Another linebacking case was the big
guy who finally replaced Schmitt ... another wonderful fellow who couldn't get it either. Elko, out
of desperation, "solved" the problem by having him just battering ram one gap every play ---
hardly ideal, but we were really thin at LB talent then. That guy SLOWLY got a little better as the
season went on.

EYETEST does not equal better player.

General IQ does not necessarily translate into Magic Johnson awareness and instincts. How do
we not already know this? We've had loads of teaching examples.

I think Nyles Morgan may have been the 2017 battering ram LB you are referencing. I agree, athletic ability/prowess are great but without instincts and “feel for the game”, the player will never reach their potential.

 

[NDdomer2]

So apparently, they see it as Liufau playing more in space and playing outside in pass coverage/ dropping in zone. Jamie U said that according to PFF Liufau was the top rated linebacker in pass coverage last year. Kiser they want the opposite, more inside and attacking the ball, less pass coverage and playing in space.

That's all well when you draw it up but the other team knows Kiser is a liability in coverage and will make sure to isolate him

 

[T-Boone]

If the list is too long maybe the scheme needs changing: Morgan, Bilal, Simon, Osita, Kollie, Sneed?

 

[T-Boone]

So apparently, they see it as Liufau playing more in space and playing outside in pass coverage/ dropping in zone. Jamie U said that according to PFF Liufau was the top rated linebacker in pass coverage last year. Kiser they want the opposite, more inside and attacking the ball, less pass coverage and playing in space.

Kiser is predicted as a first round draft pick because of his coverage skills by some/one.

 

[NDdomer2]

If the list is too long maybe the scheme needs changing: Morgan, Bilal, Simon, Osita, Kollie, Sneed?

Those cover multiple DCs so perhaps it's the players? Others seem to get it just fine.

 

[fightingirish26]

If the list is too long maybe the scheme needs changing: Morgan, Bilal, Simon, Osita, Kollie, Sneed?

Do you think all these guys played the exact same scheme?

Also Sneed might be starting as a true sophomore. Not sure how he's on this list already.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

How can you not pick up defensive schemes and be a student athlete at Notre Dame?

Some of the smartest people I know are idiots.

 

[Luckylucci]

If the list is too long maybe the scheme needs changing: Morgan, Bilal, Simon, Osita, Kollie, Sneed?

I have no idea where you pull this from but…

Morgan ended his career with 91 tackles and 7 TFL’s during the 2017 season. He was the starting Mike on a newly resurrected defense that BVG had just got done destroying. There were a lot of good players being ruined by a truly terrible coach.

Asmar Bilal was uber productive as a 5th year Senior for then DC Clark Lea.

Simon had two horrific injuries that largely affected his time at ND.

And, Sneed is TBD but early returns are he’s a stud.

Not included are Drue Tranquill, Tevon Coney, JOK, and Jaylon Smith which are ND LB all timers. Fun fact, Coney ended his career as 10th on the all-time tackles list. Crazy productive 3 star LB out of FL.

 

[INLaw]

Gentlemen, we've seen this sort of thing many times at ND and I'll bet they see it all over.
The best eye-test guy still needs to know what the hell to do better than the next guy or
he is NOT the better player. Way back when I first found IE, ND had a LB who wowed the eye-test
(forget his name --- made a film session by jumping out of a swimming pool flatfooted.) Really
nice guy, but could not pick up any part of the scheme well enough to play. It was sadly
pathetic. He was trying and couldn't make it click. (and classroom brains do NOT always
translate to this sort of thing --- especially with linebacking, it is a different sort of intelligence
(more akin to geospatial intelligence+ Kinetic awareness than analysis --- Magic Johnson "saw"
things before they happened. He was not the best eye-test athlete.) That ND wonderful athlete
was never really functional at anything but special teams. Another linebacking case was the big
guy who finally replaced Schmitt ... another wonderful fellow who couldn't get it either. Elko, out
of desperation, "solved" the problem by having him just battering ram one gap every play ---
hardly ideal, but we were really thin at LB talent then. That guy SLOWLY got a little better as the
season went on.

EYETEST does not equal better player.

General IQ does not necessarily translate into Magic Johnson awareness and instincts. How do
we not already know this? We've had loads of teaching examples.

Steve Filer

 

[PutuporShutup]

To me we’ll know if this is a complete kollie issue or if there’s a coaching issue as well by the production this year. There’s no excuse to not have lbs be very productive this year. If we see Marist, jd, and jack get 80% of the lb snaps and continue to be unproductive it’s clear we will have a coaching issue. If those 3 lbs are greatly improved and we play the young talent a lot as well with production I’ll be confident kollie just wasn’t fitting in/getting it/good enough/etc.

if we get the lb play from the last 2 years then a team in a close game will be able to run on us and we won’t stop it when we need to.

 

[AlaskanIrish]

Gentlemen, we've seen this sort of thing many times at ND and I'll bet they see it all over.
The best eye-test guy still needs to know what the hell to do better than the next guy or
he is NOT the better player. Way back when I first found IE, ND had a LB who wowed the eye-test
(forget his name --- made a film session by jumping out of a swimming pool flatfooted.) Really
nice guy, but could not pick up any part of the scheme well enough to play. It was sadly
pathetic. He was trying and couldn't make it click. (and classroom brains do NOT always
translate to this sort of thing --- especially with linebacking, it is a different sort of intelligence
(more akin to geospatial intelligence+ Kinetic awareness than analysis --- Magic Johnson "saw"
things before they happened. He was not the best eye-test athlete.) That ND wonderful athlete
was never really functional at anything but special teams. Another linebacking case was the big
guy who finally replaced Schmitt ... another wonderful fellow who couldn't get it either. Elko, out
of desperation, "solved" the problem by having him just battering ram one gap every play ---
hardly ideal, but we were really thin at LB talent then. That guy SLOWLY got a little better as the
season went on.

EYETEST does not equal better player.

General IQ does not necessarily translate into Magic Johnson awareness and instincts. How do
we not already know this? We've had loads of teaching examples.

Are you thinking of Steve Filer?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Yep. Filer and the other "forgotten name" was Morgan --- both good people, who I rooted for to do better.
Morgan ultimately got a little better, but I felt that was mainly the change of coaching finding a way to avoid his deficits.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Wasn't Steven Filer's issue that he just never committed to football, he didn't have a passion for the game which intern made him a lazy football player. Not that he had no/low football IQ.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Wasn't Steven Filer's issue that he just never committed to football, he didn't have a passion for the game which intern made him a lazy football player. Not that he had no/low football IQ.

I always heard he just wasn’t physical and always tried to use athleticism … not good for lb, need both

 

[Luckylucci]

Wasn't Steven Filer's issue that he just never committed to football, he didn't have a passion for the game which intern made him a lazy football player. Not that he had no/low football IQ.

I believe Coach Kelly made a joke about Filer when he first got here that was something like "when we first got here, he cared more about skateboarding than he did football."

 

[irishandy]

If the list is too long maybe the scheme needs changing: Morgan, Bilal, Simon, Osita, Kollie, Sneed?

Sneed needs to be taken off this list. I would be shocked if we didn't hear his name this year.

 

[Big23Head]

 

[Irish#1]

At least he's staying serious about his degree.

 

[Reaper97]

I’m surprised it’s taken this long, seeing how he was telling teammates before spring practice even started he was transferring to Vanderbilt to be with Lea & Lescensky.

 

[NDBoiler]

I’m surprised it’s taken this long, seeing how he was telling teammates before spring practice even started he was transferring to Vanderbilt to be with Lea & Lescensky.

Thanks for subtly letting us peasants know you knew weeks ago, Driskell

 

[zelezo vlk]

Hoping Lea can develop the heck out of this guy