'21 GA S Khari Gee (Notre Dame Signee)

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Why would NIL be involved?

I see a tweener who could be lost postion wise, main recruiter left, was a late stage commit, from further away and didn’t play FR year.

Allows us to take another ‘23 DB, or an additional portal body…
 

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Hope he’s going somewhere to get PT and not back to LSU to fill out their depth. He’ll be over recruited by them for a second time.
 

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Why would NIL be involved?

I see a tweener who could be lost postion wise, main recruiter left, was a late stage commit, from further away and didn’t play FR year.


I think it’s fair to wonder in this Wild West environment, no? Kinda dismissive of the thought unless you actually know something
 

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It seems that it’ll be a trend with players not seeing the time they want…. I don’t think the portal will be quite as rewarding the other way with ND gaining younger players. Harder to accept players here unless it’s grad xfer. Just kinda feels like it is set up (no year of sitting) to be a negative issue. I’m not sure what kind of player he’s going to be, but he has talent and I hate seeing talented young players leave like this (provided it’s not a family issue/etc). Best of luck either way
 

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It’s the new world. There will still be like 4-5 more from what 247 has been suggesting. Just have to hope at least one of Styles and Colzie sticks around.
 

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I think it’s fair to wonder in this Wild West environment, no? Kinda dismissive of the thought unless you actually know something

Ghee fits to a t a freshman transfer even before NIL, especially given 2022 and on recruiting. I don’t assume someone is NIL tampering the roster for Ghee….now Styles is another story. Most transfers in the end will be for all the normal reasons I attributed to Ghee, which is why I asked why would it be NIL.
 

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IMHO, the transfer portal (and possibly NIL) is (are) officially sucking a lot of the fun out of college football……..watching players being patient, work, develop and succeed. Maybe it only feels that way because it is new but I hope the guidelines change. I do realize that we live in an era of instant gratification which has to be a nightmare for the coaches to address.
 

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It’s the new world. There will still be like 4-5 more from what 247 has been suggesting. Just have to hope at least one of Styles and Colzie sticks around.

Uhh, I'm not hoping for one of Styles and Colzie to stick around, because that would mean one leaves and even one leaving is going to be catastrophic for a WR room that's already insanely thin. You simply can't afford to lose either at this point.

And I can't fathom why either would leave barring personal issues. Styles is going to start and Colzie is going to see a ton of time as well, potentially start too if Austin or Lenzy don't return.
 

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Singer said he didn’t like the (possible) move to LB
 

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The transfer portal is going to be a big problem for ND moving forward. I don't see how it will benefit us.
 

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IMHO, the transfer portal (and possibly NIL) is (are) officially sucking a lot of the fun out of college football……..watching players being patient, work, develop and succeed. Maybe it only feels that way because it is new but I hope the guidelines change. I do realize that we live in an era of instant gratification which has to be a nightmare for the coaches to address.

Definitely needs tweaks but under the old rules, this would be a kid I’d say we’d be rooting for instant eligibility. He got processed out by LSU, committed to ND without visiting only to lose 2 main coaches he talked to and be asked to switch spots. Like mentioned above, he fills the BINGO card on transfer reasons unfortunately. Hopefully Lea maybe gives a call?
 

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Was he a safety? If so, this fucking blows. Was he a linebacker? If so, sayonara.
 

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Definitely needs tweaks but under the old rules, this would be a kid I’d say we’d be rooting for instant eligibility. He got processed out by LSU, committed to ND without visiting only to lose 2 main coaches he talked to and be asked to switch spots. Like mentioned above, he fills the BINGO card on transfer reasons unfortunately. Hopefully Lea maybe gives a call?

I don’t disagree with your point at all, there are situations where an immediate transfer is warranted and maybe this is a good example. I’m probably a bit impatient myself to see the transfer (and NIL) system tweaked to prevent too much roster turnover. I know “too much” can be a relative term. I guess we’ll see how it shakes out while there are growing pains which I’m sure many of us fans will find frustrating.
 

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Didn't LSU want him to play LB too and that's why he decommitted from them? Always thought he was too slow to be a safety anyway but was hopeful he'd accept an OLB role. Our LB depth makes him a loss we can afford.
 

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Didn't LSU want him to play LB too and that's why he decommitted from them? Always thought he was too slow to be a safety anyway but was hopeful he'd accept an OLB role. Our LB depth makes him a loss we can afford.

It was said to be part of it.

Similar to Lenzy’s comments in his interview with Tim O’Malley, I think there is some hope or belief that when these guys get on campus they’ll accept where they are at in their development. Which should make conversations easier.

Jamie U was adamant that he was not a long term S from seeing him in practice. I trust that opinion and would think that was shared with him by the coaching staff.

It’s certainly not a transfer that has significant short term implications but I really wanted to see what Khari the Junior/Senior Rover looked like.
 

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Not sure why we would move him to LB an area where we just landed 4 stud recruits. Keeping him at safety makes more sense
 

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Not sure why we would move him to LB an area where we just landed 4 stud recruits. Keeping him at safety makes more sense

Because he’s just not a S. Doesn’t possess the movement skills to cover.

I would bet that the increased focus on good on good or 1 on 1 reps has been eye opening for some.
 

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It was said to be part of it.

Similar to Lenzy’s comments in his interview with Tim O’Malley, I think there is some hope or belief that when these guys get on campus they’ll accept where they are at in their development. Which should make conversations easier.

Jamie U was adamant that he was not a long term S from seeing him in practice. I trust that opinion and would think that was shared with him by the coaching staff.

It’s certainly not a transfer that has significant short term implications but I really wanted to see what Khari the Junior/Senior Rover looked like.

I agree with this. Then add in the thoughts of transferring that inevitably go through the minds of freshmen who haven’t seen the field, are overwhelmed by the culture (or lack thereof) & academics & are homesick. Most kids stick it out. A few decide to try a different route. Best of luck to him.
 

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Because he’s just not a S. Doesn’t possess the movement skills to cover.

I would bet that the increased focus on good on good or 1 on 1 reps has been eye opening for some.

Didn't realize that. If he can't hack it at DB and will have to compete at LB, I wouldn't blame him for transferring.
 

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I assume by move to LB they specially mean Rover which is a LB/S tweener position. Not sure how many if any of our stud LB recruits are Rovers, probably Nolan Ziegler that’s it, the rest are LINEBACKER linebackers. Jack Kiser is back next year but going forward Rover depth is a bit thin.

I guess they could move Xavier Watts back to Rover but it’s not like we have a ton of safety depth either.
 

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I assume by move to LB they specially mean Rover which is a LB/S tweener position. Not sure how many if any of our stud LB recruits are Rovers, probably Nolan Ziegler that’s it, the rest are LINEBACKER linebackers. Jack Kiser is back next year but going forward Rover depth is a bit thin.

I guess they could move Xavier Watts back to Rover but it’s not like we have a ton of safety depth either.

I believe Jaylen Sneed was recruited for the Rover position.
 

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I assume by move to LB they specially mean Rover which is a LB/S tweener position. Not sure how many if any of our stud LB recruits are Rovers, probably Nolan Ziegler that’s it, the rest are LINEBACKER linebackers. Jack Kiser is back next year but going forward Rover depth is a bit thin.

I guess they could move Xavier Watts back to Rover but it’s not like we have a ton of safety depth either.

Kiser, Ziegler, Sneed, originally Moala was expected to play there. We have 3+ LBs to compete for every spot.

Mike is going to be a fierce battle: Bertrand, Kollie, Bauer (if he chooses to return), Tuihalamaka

I fully expect Will to fall to Liufau once healthy but he will have some guys pushing, mainly Kollie, maybe Burnham.

To those in the know, is Kollie viewed more as a Mike or Will at this point?
 

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The transfer portal is going to be a big problem for ND moving forward. I don't see how it will benefit us.

I'm not convinced of this at all.I think the Portal will be a wash, but maybe even a slight advantage for ND.
  • ND Degree will keep most in the Program (e.g. Lichfield not transferring until he graduates - early)
  • 90%+ of transfers-in will be graduate transfers -- therefore, they will be less of the disgruntled/selfish type & more mature, with more film.
  • ND will just recruit more high schoolers each year -- this will be Program building
  • Transfers-out will primarily be guys who cannot see the field. In the past, ND was stuck carrying those guys for 4 years (e.g. Gee)
  • ND degree will be attractive to graduate transfers
Will ND be able to use the transfer portal like Alabama? No. But that never going to be the ND style anyway.
 
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Kiser, Moala, Sneed and Ziegler is probably correct for 2022 Rover. I also think the Rover depth chart is a balancing act with WILL, Nickel, Dime and S depth charts so kind of a lot of moving parts. We kind of got screwed this year because ideally someone like Kiser could have stayed on the field as essentially a WILL on passing downs. A more passing focused Rover or a S comes on. Because of the lack of S depth though, Kiser had to stay at Rover, which meant Bertrand staying on the field at WILL and he got burned in coverage many times. JOK blessed us with flexibility there. It was my sneaky bold prediction Projected 2022 thread, I think Ziegler works his way into a lot of PT this coming year, because he can offer that flexibility that many of our current Rover’s can’t and he’ll be physically ready.
 
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