2026 Fall Camp Thread

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Since we're bored out of our gourd does anyone have any guesses as to what Quincey Porter's Friday surgery was given he was already exercising on a bike Monday?
It was something to increase blood flow to his knee. It's been reported that he has a patellar tendon issue, the one thing I don't know is if he also has a meniscus problem / if he's ever actually going to be able to run at 100% because this has been a lonnnnnnng recovery process and he is still nowhere close to return to play.
 

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My guess is something like a PRP injection, they inject platelet rich plasma into problem areas, used to be that guys would go to Germany to have it done (Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods) but I think the FDA cleared it within the last 5-10 years. From what I understand it helps a great deal with inflammation but one of our ortho bros could correct me. Im only a lab guy. Can we just get this guy some BPC157 and maybe a little test
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Expected contributors from past classes:

2022 -
Jaylen Sneed, Ashton Craig*
2023 - Charles Jagusah (if healthy), Boubacar Traore*, Cooper Flanagan*, Armel Mukam*, Christian Gray*, Drayk Bowen*, Sullivan Absher, Jaiden Ausberry, Joe Otting*, Jaden Greathouse*, Adon Shuler*
2024 - Bryce Young*, Kyngstonn Villiamu-Asa*, CJ Carr*, Guerby Lambert*, Kedren Young, Brauntae Johnson*, Loghan Thomas, Micah Gilbert, Aneyas Williams*, Leonard Moore*, Sean Sevillano Jr, Anthonie Knapp*
2025 - Will Black*, Madden Faraimo, James Flanigan, Nolan James Jr, Elijah Burress, Matty Augustine (once healthy), Ethan Long, maybe Jerome Bettis Jr.,
2026 - speculative - Rodney Dunham, Ian Premer, Joey O'Brien, Jonaz Walton, Devin Fitzgerald, Bubba Frazier, Noah Grubbs/Teddy Jarrard, Jasper Scaife, Transfer Class - Tionne Gray, Mylan Graham, Francis Brewu, Jayden Sanders, Keon Keeley, DJ McKinney (leaving Porter off until we hear he's practicing and the staff brings him up without prompting.

That shows a nice hit rate across the classes, really wish Jagusah was healthy, it'd change the whole OL dynamic.
 

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My guess is something like a PRP injection, they inject platelet rich plasma into problem areas, used to be that guys would go to Germany to have it done (Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods) but I think the FDA cleared it within the last 5-10 years. From what I understand it helps a great deal with inflammation but one of our ortho bros could correct me. Im only a lab guy. Can we just get this guy some BPC157 and maybe a little test
What is BPC157
 

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It was something to increase blood flow to his knee. It's been reported that he has a patellar tendon issue, the one thing I don't know is if he also has a meniscus problem / if he's ever actually going to be able to run at 100% because this has been a lonnnnnnng recovery process and he is still nowhere close to return to play.
The thing i find very odd is the cloak and dagger/conflicting timelines. ISD questions if he'll ever play football again and Marcus Freeman said hes a couple weeks out from getting back to full participation. If they dont think he'll be back until November/December who really cares? Its not like teams are preparing for him to be out there. Just kind of weird IMO. Just being hopeful? Covering for a large investment that may never come to fruition?
 

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It was something to increase blood flow to his knee. It's been reported that he has a patellar tendon issue, the one thing I don't know is if he also has a meniscus problem / if he's ever actually going to be able to run at 100% because this has been a lonnnnnnng recovery process and he is still nowhere close to return to play.
They need to send Porter out to LA to consult with ND grad Dr. Neil Elattrache if they haven’t already.
 

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This season, updates on freshman talent have barely registered.

“You’re not gonna get instant gratification here or anywhere else,” Freeman said. “So, you got to trust your journey, and instead of comparing your journey to somebody else’s, you got to continue to focus on what you have. And if you want more, you gotta clear your plate.

“And if you do that consistently, you’re going to get more.”
 

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Experimental peptide that has shown to do wonders for injury recovery. Technically not approved for human use. But people have raved about it. Im sure there are even better ones now
Does he need a passport to visit Tijuana?
 

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The thing i find very odd is the cloak and dagger/conflicting timelines. ISD questions if he'll ever play football again and Marcus Freeman said hes a couple weeks out from getting back to full participation. If they dont think he'll be back until November/December who really cares? Its not like teams are preparing for him to be out there. Just kind of weird IMO. Just being hopeful? Covering for a large investment that may never come to fruition?
All I know is that when they brought him in during the winter they were well aware of his knee being very fucked up and he had a surgery in January where the main question was "why did no one realize you needed surgery for 2.5 months?" It was a major surgery, and people at the time were super skeptical that he would even play this season. I said as much on here about pumping the breaks when projecting him as a major contributor for 2026. The projection has not gotten any better, as he is clearly nowhere close to 100% right now.

You seem to know wayyyyyy more about this stuff than I do, but I am used to it taking 9+ months from knee injuries to full return to play for my high school guys. He's at ~7 months right now and we're obviously not going to get a straight story on all what was repaired this winter because ND doesn't disclose that.
 

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It was something to increase blood flow to his knee. It's been reported that he has a patellar tendon issue, the one thing I don't know is if he also has a meniscus problem / if he's ever actually going to be able to run at 100% because this has been a lonnnnnnng recovery process and he is still nowhere close to return to play.
You think there's a shot he doesn't play at all this year?
 

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All I know is that when they brought him in during the winter they were well aware of his knee being very fucked up and he had a surgery in January where the main question was "why did no one realize you needed surgery for 2.5 months?" It was a major surgery, and people at the time were super skeptical that he would even play this season. I said as much on here about pumping the breaks when projecting him as a major contributor for 2026. The projection has not gotten any better, as he is clearly nowhere close to 100% right now.

You seem to know wayyyyyy more about this stuff than I do, but I am used to it taking 9+ months from knee injuries to full return to play for my high school guys. He's at ~7 months right now and we're obviously not going to get a straight story on all what was repaired this winter because ND doesn't disclose that.
And the other question....why was he halfway practicing early in camp???
 

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You think there's a shot he doesn't play at all this year?
Absolutely. They signed him from Ohio State understanding that even in the best case scenario he was unlikely to be 100% this year but might be able to contribute at a position of need. Worst case scenario this was a "long term investment" in a guy that could be a big impact player down the road.

The wonky reporting about his injury is that Ohio State did not shut him down for the season after he got hurt and he was giving interviews as late as December basically implying he could be back in the rotation any moment and not even hinting at the need for surgery. So everyone basically just assumed it was some sort of knee sprain that was healing on its own and he would be fine. Instead, it required surgery, which happened about 2.5 months later than it should've. We'd have a much better idea of his prognosis if Ohio State's medical staff (or whoever evaluated him) was competent.
 

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All I know is that when they brought him in during the winter they were well aware of his knee being very fucked up and he had a surgery in January where the main question was "why did no one realize you needed surgery for 2.5 months?" It was a major surgery, and people at the time were super skeptical that he would even play this season. I said as much on here about pumping the breaks when projecting him as a major contributor for 2026. The projection has not gotten any better, as he is clearly nowhere close to 100% right now.

You seem to know wayyyyyy more about this stuff than I do, but I am used to it taking 9+ months from knee injuries to full return to play for my high school guys. He's at ~7 months right now and we're obviously not going to get a straight story on all what was repaired this winter because ND doesn't disclose that.
I know enough to sound like I know what I am talking about when I really don't lol. I just find this entire episode fascinating. If he plays, great, if he doesn't, such is life in my opinion. I would just love to be a fly on the wall for what that negotiation looked like. "He's hurt and had surgery but we won't tell you what it was," just doesn't seem like something ND would have entertained. But here we are.
 

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How could there not a be? We haven't seen him go through a single full practice? Or perform drills without a limp. It should be the expectation that he won't be available until the staff bring him up voluntarily.
That would be an epic failure on behalf of ND IF he doesn't, given that they could have brought in another WR transfer who could contribute on this year's team.
 

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That would be an epic failure on behalf of ND IF he doesn't, given that they could have brought in another WR transfer who could contribute on this year's team.
Epic failure is not understanding what the staff took into account and what they were expecting. What if he does nothing until the 11th game and then starts to earn snaps? What if he's an absolute monster next year?

The staff believed they had Marsh until they didn't. Our staff and admin have been playing aggressively and I won't fault them for rolling the dice on a top 50 player.
 
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