2025 Fall Practice Thread

[zelezo vlk]

I’d prefer ASU or Wisconsin out of those so I can root for him. I guess he could go to Kansas but I didn’t know he played basketball.

They plan Sconny next year, just a reminder

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

He mentioned it being sources on the defensive side of the ball while the offensive side was happy with Carr

But what do the special teams guys think?!?!

 

[Irish#1]

"I find it unacceptable that our QB is throwing INTs in practice, not a game, practice, while practicing against one of the top 3 DB units in the country."


gt actual fo

You know sometimes in practice a coach will call a play and tell the QB to throw to a WR regardless of the coverage to see if it will work.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Best I could do in three minutes

 

[IRISHbluehen]

Listening to the end of the II episode today, the two Tim's think the decision/fall camp brings the floor of the team down to 3 losses. While I guess I don't necessarily disagree, I think its chicken little behavior. Prister has been gushing about how CJ has elite talent all spring and summer and should be the starter but because he threw picks in camp, we're suddenly a mid-level bowl team. GTFO

 

[Dale]

Prister with a solid article. Basically points out much of the discourse being Carr maybe falling a bit short of a lofty expectation more than clear buzz about Minchey’s own play.

Tim Prister’s Point After

So much of pre-season camp speculation outside of the confines of those truly privy to what happened during practice from July 31 to August 17 is scattershot. Thus, this analysis will be dotted with “seems to” and “feels like” references. It’s also grounded in reality.

247sports.com

Reference the comment section here as well for more info. Prister pleasantly not in subscriber lash out mood. Lot of good info and re-evaluation of the process.

 

[Free Manera]

Prister also just dropped the statement “Carr is deadly accurate the further down the field the football is pushed” which seems like a pretty good thing

 

[NDVirginia19]

Prister also just dropped the statement “Carr is deadly accurate the further down the field the football is pushed” which seems like a pretty good thing

 

[Dale]

 

[GoldenBoy3]

You think the beat writers are smart?

I hate to go there, but a guy that wears athletic hoodies three sizes too small should never be trusted.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Prister also just dropped the statement “Carr is deadly accurate the further down the field the football is pushed” which seems like a pretty good thing

That’s not ND football. Must be why the beat is so upset.

 

[NDohio]

Listening to the end of the II episode today, the two Tim's think the decision/fall camp brings the floor of the team down to 3 losses. While I guess I don't necessarily disagree, I think its chicken little behavior. Prister has been gushing about how CJ has elite talent all spring and summer and should be the starter but because he threw picks in camp, we're suddenly a mid-level bowl team. GTFO

Wait - seriously? Just a couple of weeks the entire II pod said that the win total would be lowered by one with Minchey being the starter.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Wait - seriously? Just a couple of weeks the entire II pod said that the win total would be lowered by one with Minchey being the starter.

"Minchey being the starter" meant they felt the floor would be lowered. Now, since Carr barely won, they're still lowering the floor.

 

[NDohio]

"Minchey being the starter" meant they felt the floor would be lowered. Now, since Carr barely won, they're still lowering the floor.

Makes perfect sense…

 

[rtrn2glory]

From my understanding (ninja), Kenny was solid. No question exceeded expectations. That said, he was not lighting the world on fire. He may/ may not have a 100% grasp of the playbook. CJ does. Everything on the table for Miami with Carr. Offense would not have that luxury with Kenny at the helm right away. No I am not calling Kenny lazy or dumb. Just that CJ apparently is batshit when it comes to football and knows the playbook inside and out.

Is this from sources or your own thoughts? Just curious Thanks

 

[Hautian Domer]

You think the beat writers are smart?

The only one I truly trust (and he’s not always correct, of course), is Prister. I feel like he’s the only guy truly connected in and respected
within the Gug. When you have coaches pissed at you (Golden) and you’re not banned, you’re arguably doing something right.

 

[sfk324]

I think it was Brice who made the point that Angeli was making $250K as the backup last year, and got a nice pay bump to go to Cuse. I wonder if Kenny has a higher profile than Steve?

My wishcasting landing spots for Kenny to go to if he ends the season as QB2. I want him to go to school that's a step up from the BC's of the world and hoping he gets a Beau Pribula type media fanfare bump.

Miami? Beck leaves and maybe they don't want to turn the keys to Emory?
AZ St? Leavitt leaves? Exciting offense and could see Kenny as a nice piece
Clemson? Vizzina doesn't work out?
Indiana? Mendoza leaves and the competition doesn't seem that tough
Kansas? Fallback school?
LSU? Nuss is gone and Kenny likely wins the job
Wiscy? Seems like a job he can win

Steve has shown he can play above average football in a D1 setting in a backup role, including when pressed into action as a starter or on short notice in-game. Kenny has not shown anything close to what Steve has in a game setting. That's not a slight to Kenny, it's just reality. I just have a hard time seeing programs throwing wads of cash at him to go start without meaningful game footage.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Makes perfect sense…

They're saying, Carr did worse than what they thought he'd do - so they're lowering their floor.
It's not unreasonable. I think they're wrong and scared, but its not "dumb".

 

[Domina Nostra]

Sounds like Carr is clearly the guy with the higher ceiling. They were hoping he'd have a clean Fall and run away with the job, but he ended up playing a bit sloppy.

Minchey, who is a good prospect, kept it close.

 

[CallahanAutoParts]

They're saying, Carr did worse than what they thought he'd do - so they're lowering their floor.
It's not unreasonable. I think they're wrong and scared, but it’s not "dumb".

Yeah not a dumb statement at all. They’re being realistic. Carr was always going to have growing pains but based on fall camp those growing pains will be worse than expected. Still want him as our guy though.

 

[dublinirish]

was wondering if MF would have gone this direction if ND faced a lesser opponent in game 1

 

[CallahanAutoParts]

From my understanding (ninja), Kenny was solid. No question exceeded expectations. That said, he was not lighting the world on fire. He may/ may not have a 100% grasp of the playbook. CJ does. Everything on the table for Miami with Carr. Offense would not have that luxury with Kenny at the helm right away. No I am not calling Kenny lazy or dumb. Just that CJ apparently is batshit when it comes to football and knows the playbook inside and out.

My reading between the lines - Kenny was given the chance to “start” over the weekend. Someone noted he led starters in Saturday walk through and led starters in Sunday scrimmage. While no mistakes, he didn’t do enough. All reports are the defense dominated. The one clip we have from Kenny Sunday was an under thrown ball to wide open KK Smith which multiple reporters have said he was tackled short of the goal line.

Denbrock can open the offense and let Carr rip out.

 

[CallahanAutoParts]

Prister also just dropped the statement “Carr is deadly accurate the further down the field the football is pushed” which seems like a pretty good thing

And their pod today mentioned WRs preferred Carr. This offense is going to be fun to watch!

 

[Irish4life]

From my understanding (ninja), Kenny was solid. No question exceeded expectations. That said, he was not lighting the world on fire. He may/ may not have a 100% grasp of the playbook. CJ does. Everything on the table for Miami with Carr. Offense would not have that luxury with Kenny at the helm right away. No I am not calling Kenny lazy or dumb. Just that CJ apparently is batshit when it comes to football and knows the playbook inside and out.

What do you make of all the comments from the media that players at Notre Dame are/were stunned by Carr being named QB1?

 

[SDIrishFan]

was wondering if MF would have gone this direction if ND faced a lesser opponent in game 1

Michigan did something similar a few years ago I believe when they played two cupcakes to start. We play a real schedule and don't have that luxury, unfortunately.

 

[The Backer]

What do you make of all the comments from the media that players at Notre Dame are/were stunned by Carr being named QB1?

A major artifact of the "QB Controversy" is that it insinuates there's one guy that the team likes more. Let me tell you, the team at large thinks it can run the table or at least make the playoffs behind either guy.

 

[ThePiombino]

Joshua's inability to let anyone make a point without talking over them almost kills the podcast.

Agreed. He's frustrating to listen to. Brandon is, by far, the best part of the podcast.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

What do you make of all the comments from the media that players at Notre Dame are/were stunned by Carr being named QB1?

The players (if even true) were likely "stunned" because, they, like us, are not involved in the coaches' meetings... they (like us) saw all the "buzz" on social media and how it was a "done deal" and they likely took the narrative, just like us.

 

[Irish4life]

 

[IrishLion]

Reliable Source:

- Media had a small amount of info on Minchey, which was based in some truth, that they were running with

- Some info was simply bad, coming from sources that had bias of some sort.

- Some of the info was false and INTENTIONALLY leaked. ND is aware of who/how and is dealing with it.

- A small number of people close to the program knew by Saturday that it was Carr, but it was kept on the super DL

- Carr has a higher ceiling, and that’s the belief internally, if that’s not clear based on arm talent alone to everyone else

- Carr was the leader out of Spring, but they were in no hurry to make that “final”

- Minchey started camp hot, while Carr started slow. Minchey didn’t ever separate, though. Carr got his groove, as expected all along, and here we are.

- Minchey didn’t outperform Carr in the spring, as has been mentioned elsewhere (MY COMMENTARY: this is the beat attempting to cover their asses further from the “calling it for Minchey” debacle)

- Beat writers had almost zero info from Fall camp. Any info was coming from sources with clear bias.

- The commentary on Carr and his ball security problems contain an insinuation that Minchey was lights-out during camp… that’s not the case.

- Misinformation hit a high-water mark last week, obviously, but the tidbits trickling out even earlier were also mostly off the mark, some intentionally from certain sources

- Carr might start slow or take chances, but his upside and command of the playbook were always going to set him apart, not to mention his leadership, arm, etc.

- Teammates are not “shocked” that Carr was chosen

- NIL was part of the larger conversation, but had nothing to do with final decision (MY COMMENTARY: reading between the lines, ND had to do homework on getting Minchey some deals in the event that he became the guy)

- The rest of the position groups on offense prefer Carr (for the most part) for various/different reasons

- Defensive guys seemed to prefer Minchey slightly because of perceived ability to extend drives a bit better, particularly in context of the first two games

- Minchey is not so much better a runner that it would mean anything in the competition

- Minchey is definitely the more conservative of the two, sometimes too much so