2024 WR Coach Search

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Important hire for Pete B. Stuckey could recruit, but he obviously couldn't develop.

The more I read I want Sheppard- Odunze & when healthy McMillan were 2 top WR's in the country.

ND needs to open up their pocket book and go after top talent coaching.
 
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BoredIrish said:
If it is Sheppard, how does the timing play out now with UW in thr playoffs?
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If he's already come to an agreement with ND, He could accept and step down, accept and Freeman allows him to start after the playoffs, or the UW staff could ask him to step down since he won't be 100% there.

He's not a head coach or even OC, him coaching through the postseason is not critical (see: Stuckey). Hell even Kelly as HC left ND before the CFP selection
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Shephard comes to ND with a pay raise and or promotion. I Don't see why he leaves otherwise.

He makes $800k at UW to be AHC/PGC/WR.
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I’m not sure anything about Marcus’ offensive philosophy indicates he sees that position as important enough to break the pay scale for a coach.

Ryan Grubb is the highest paid assistant at $2 million. Would Marcus fight to pay the coach of a position he doesn’t view as his key to winning $1 million a year?
 
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Grahambo said:
Give GP AHC title along with TEs. Give Shepherd full OC/WR duties.
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This is the way and about the only move that will fully restore my faith in Freeman. Doesn't have to be Shephard specifically, but anyone who upgrades both a position coach and coordinator position would be a home run hire.

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ColinKSU said:
I’m not sure anything about Marcus’ offensive philosophy indicates he sees that position as important enough to break the pay scale for a coach.

Ryan Grubb is the highest paid assistant at $2 million. Would Marcus fight to pay the coach of a position he doesn’t view as his key to winning $1 million a year?
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The fact that Freeman fired Stuckey suggests that he values good WR play. He could have easily kept Stuckey and no one would have thought twice about it. (except maybe some of the WRs, I suppose). Instead, he made a surprising/controversial move to fire him, and has spent all week absorbing blowback. Why would he do that if he didn't care about the WR room and want to make it better?

$1M and co-OC/Passing Game Coordinator for Shepherd. Do it. This weekend.
 
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stlnd01 said:
The fact that Freeman fired Stuckey suggests that he values good WR play. He could have easily kept Stuckey and no one would have thought twice about it. (except maybe some of the WRs, I suppose). Instead, he made a surprising/controversial move to fire him, and has spent all week absorbing blowback. Why would he do that if he didn't care about the WR room and want to make it better?

$1M and co-OC/Passing Game Coordinator for Shepherd. Do it. This weekend.
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While that’s fair, I think there’s emphasizing the room enough to make it the highest paid assistant on the staff and firing the coach before you lost the entire room because even a running team needs at least a couple of receivers. Lincoln Riley has a defensive coordinator on his staff.
 
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Whoever it is, (and I like Shepherd out of the names we know... ) one would wonder if the new guy reaches out to any of our portal guys? I'd love to get another crack at Tobias..So much talent.
 
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ThePiombino said:
This is the way and about the only move that will fully restore my faith in Freeman. Doesn't have to be Shephard specifically, but anyone who upgrades both a position coach and coordinator position would be a home run hire.

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He protects his friend by “promoting” him.
 
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irishandy said:
Important hire for Pete B. Stuckey could recruit, but he obviously couldn't develop.

The more I read I want Sheppard- Odunze & when healthy McMillan were 2 top WR's in the country.

ND needs to open up their pocket book and go after top talent coaching.
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I'm not even sure the development part holds weight. Rico and Greathouse have both looked pretty good when they've been in there. Faison has also been good. He absolutely should have gotten a pass for this year given the injuries. Parker is the one who blew it, he should have leaned on Estime more in the big games, instead he gives him 2 carries in the 2nd half of Clemson and then pulls him after two 10 yard carries in the final drive.
 
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Bottom line is MF’s cryptonite (so far at least, but he can change that) is he has no ability to hire effective OC personnel (except for McCullough) and he is paying for it . WR needs to be announced soon for all the reasons mentioned here - Attract transfer WR and GT QBs, maybe retain some exiters, and not lose anymore O players. Oh yeah and so we can win a lot more!
 
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ulukinatme said:
I'm not even sure the development part holds weight. Rico and Greathouse have both looked pretty good when they've been in there. Faison has also been good. He absolutely should have gotten a pass for this year given the injuries. Parker is the one who blew it, he should have leaned on Estime more in the big games, instead he gives him 2 carries in the 2nd half of Clemson and then pulls him after two 10 yard carries in the final drive.
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Parker inherited a disaster from Rees who had bad hygiene and a hair lip.
 
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BoredIrish said:
Give him both. Give him the Co-OC title. He has OC experience and it doesn't look like Ryan Grubbs is going anywhere, so he isn't calling plays at UW anyways.
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I mean, the real move would be to hire both Grubb and Shephard lol. But that's not happening.
 
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T-Boone said:
Parker inherited a disaster from Rees who had bad hygiene and a hair lip.
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:ROFLMAO:
For real though, there hasn't been an ND OC that was setup better than Parker in some time, he screwed the pooch. Whoever gets it from Parker, especially after losing half the WRs, I don't envy them.
 
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ulukinatme said:
:ROFLMAO:
For real though, there hasn't been an ND OC that was setup better than Parker in some time, he screwed the pooch. Whoever gets it from Parker, especially after losing half the WRs, I don't envy them.
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Maybe if it was 1990. Not having legit WRs in modern day college football is a death sentence. I think its being overstated the offensive talent Parker inherited due to the vitriol towards him in general.
 
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Te'o4Heisman said:
Maybe if it was 1990. Not having legit WRs in modern day college football is a death sentence. I think its being overstated the offensive talent Parker inherited due to the vitriol towards him in general.
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The craziest thing is Tommy would have been happy to keep Del and seemingly just not have any receivers to run his offense.
 
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ColinKSU said:
The craziest thing is Tommy would have been happy to keep Del and seemingly just not have any receivers to run his offense.
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Yea he seemed to kind of hate recruiting. With the way offense has evolved it is just too difficult to compete without explosive plays and playmakers now.
 
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Te'o4Heisman said:
Maybe if it was 1990. Not having legit WRs in modern day college football is a death sentence. I think its being overstated the offensive talent Parker inherited due to the vitriol towards him in general.
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Yep. He also inherited a slightly weaker than expected oline.
 
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T-Boone said:
Not true. He inherited (last minute also) Rees's cruddy QBs and WRs.
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The year Rees took over the offense he went to the playoff with 3 star Ian Book,
a glorified TE at WR - Javon McKinley
a Northwestern transfer - Benny Sko
and a converted QB - Avery Davis

Love those guys for their heart, but that's certainly not a world beater group.

Parker got the ACC all time passing leader, and a group of very talented but young WRs, not to mention a pretty good OL (Tackles for sure), some pretty damn good TEs, and a ridiculous RB room. It was also one of the most experienced offensive groups in college football this year from a snap perspective because a lot of them had been playing since freshmen. There was no excuse producing just 5 TDs in from OSU->Duke->Louisiville.
 
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