2020 Elections

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As far as the DSA, I don't really know who they endorsed, who won, or where they won. My hunch however is that the overwhelming majority were lib areas, meaning big cities or lib states. Let me know if that's not correct. I'm not familiar with all the ballot measures, but things like decriminalizing hard drugs like meth, etc in Oregon, is still pretty twilight zone to the majority of the country. Honestly not sure if that's one of the DSA ballot measures.

Probably correct in most instances, but take Florida for example. A place where Cuban and Venezulan-Americans were certainly influenced by the anti-socialist rhetoric and Dems were left with egg on their face. The minimum wage amendment passed comfortably.
 

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I'm sure he'll likely run, but doubt he'd make the top 2 of the primary. Haley has been one of the Vegas and insider favorites for a few years now. Pence's best chance went out the window with Trump's loss. I don't mind Pence all that much, but he's an easy target for the left.

A Haley/Scott ticket would make it very difficult for the left to attack. Minority woman and 2 term governor with INTL experience, and a minority man who is the first AA to serve in both the House and Senate. Good luck to anyone trying to paint them as racist or misogynists lol. And keep in mind it was Haley that appointed Scott 6 years ago to the Senate to replace Demint. It would be a good team, and two that are already familiar with each other.

From South Carolinian here, there is little chance of all SC ticket. Haley is likely the front runner next election. That is until the Trump family mucks it up again haha. Scott hasn’t done anything In the Senate except what he has been told or allowed to do.
 

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Don’t forget the rhino Larry Hogan from MD. I have heard a lot about him putting his name in. Not sure if the RNC will go for him. But he is a sheep. And I won’t vote for him.

Huh? A sheep who doesn’t vote with the flock? Seems contrary. 🤔
 

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That's racist

It has nothing to do with his color. Sorry but it’s the truth. I can say this about any of the many junior senators. It’s what most junior senators do. Hes on a few big committees buts about it. I’ve met him. Ive volunteered with him. He is a nice guy but he isn’t carrying much weight in SC. He hasn’t crafted many pieces of legislation and any he has done don’t make it very far.
 
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It has nothing to do with his color. Sorry but it’s the truth. I can say this about any of the many junior senators. It’s what most junior senators do. Hes on a few big committees buts about it. I’ve met him. Ive volunteered with him. He is a nice guy but he isn’t carrying much weight in SC. He hasn’t crafted many pieces of legislation and any he has done don’t make it very far.

At a minimum he’s no different than 99% of Senators including most darlings of the Democratic Party... at worst what you said is a racist dog whistle.
 

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Eye roll. I resent that.

You made my point again. Yes he is no different from almost all senators. He votes along party lines and doesn’t craft many pieces of legislation. He hasn’t really done anything to warrant a VP spot.


Funny that GOP are running against Joe Cunningham nonstop said the exact same thing about him every day for the last two months. He was Pelosi’s bitch. Votes 90% of time with her. She owns him. They must be racist too. Smh
 
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Eye roll. I resent that.

You made my point again. Yes he is no different from almost all senators. He votes along party lines and doesn’t craft many pieces of legislation. He hasn’t really done anything to warrant a VP spot.

We are playing by your rules which cost your team the Blue Wave the media assured us was coming. Had your team spoke out against the far Left loons who were anti-cop, looting & rioting and not adopted the “Defund the Police” phrase and not shoot down rumors of adding more states, more SCOTUS seats & ending the filibusters....you win in a walk. But you & your mates caved to the far Left and it cost some their seats.

Your last statement should’ve been typed in italics as I’m sure you’re schooled enough to remember the history of the following VEEPS: Spiro Agnew, Hubert Humphrey, Dan Quayle & Joe Biden. Hell, Biden didn’t do anything for 40 years & got tabbed by Obama as Veep.
 

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We are playing by your rules which cost your team the Blue Wave the media assured us was coming. Had your team spoke out against the far Left loons who were anti-cop, looting & rioting and not adopted the “Defund the Police” phrase and not shoot down rumors of adding more states, more SCOTUS seats & ending the filibusters....you win in a walk. But you & your mates caved to the far Left and it cost some their seats.

Your last statement should’ve been typed in italics as I’m sure you’re schooled enough to remember the history of the following VEEPS: Spiro Agnew, Hubert Humphrey, Dan Quayle & Joe Biden. Hell, Biden didn’t do anything for 40 years & got tabbed by Obama as Veep.

Wtf are you even talking about? I don’t have a team. I’m not in favor of antifa or Portland or right wing extremists. Good lord. Put Fox propaganda station down for a while. Lol
 

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Wtf are you even talking about? I don’t have a team. I’m not in favor of antifa or Portland or right wing extremists. Good lord. Put Fox propaganda station down for a while. Lol

Lighten up Francis & use your reading comprehension....Your team is the Democratic Party. Had they spoken out against the far Left fringe, your team wins the WH & Congress in a walk. Good Lord you people are sensitive. LOL
 

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No article, making reference to this and the similar rhetoric.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">50 Oregon Guard Troops Briefly Deployed Amid Post-Election Rioting <a href="https://t.co/ykafBmhrkK">https://t.co/ykafBmhrkK</a></p>— Military.com (@Militarydotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/Militarydotcom/status/1324501747935645703?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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The pandemic is over...

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Wtf are you even talking about? I don’t have a team. I’m not in favor of antifa or Portland or right wing extremists. Good lord. Put Fox propaganda station down for a while. Lol

I wouldnt classify you as an Antifa guy by any means but I think you are likely more than happy to bury your head in the sand a bit when it has come to them
 

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I've got no beef with Baron...

But the older kids might all be worse than their dad in their own ways lol.

Jr tries so hard to come off as an alpha, and it's so ineffective, that South Park couldn't make a funnier character.

I don't dislike Ivanka either, I just don't see her as a candidate. Jr has the unlikeable douchiness his dad has. Too soon to tell about Baron. He'll have the blessing/curse to have seen everything his dad did and went through, and hopefully develops his own brain and personality.

the guy is worth 219 mil and he's white unless i am missing something?

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Probably correct in most instances, but take Florida for example. A place where Cuban and Venezulan-Americans were certainly influenced by the anti-socialist rhetoric and Dems were left with egg on their face. The minimum wage amendment passed comfortably.

Minimum wage isn't exactly far left...

You call it anti-socialist rhetoric, others see it as spot on. Dem leaders wouldn't be taking it so seriously (I posted the audio) if it there wasn't fire under the smoke. AOC, Bern, and the rest are Socialists. Decorate them however you want, but they are at their core anti-capitalist socialists. The are much farther left than many of the Western countries who simply have socialist elements like healthcare. They simply think they are smart enough to do it right this time, in their way...

From South Carolinian here, there is little chance of all SC ticket. Haley is likely the front runner next election. That is until the Trump family mucks it up again haha. Scott hasn’t done anything In the Senate except what he has been told or allowed to do.

This is inaccurate. Scott went against Trump in a few very public instances. He pissed Trump off when he commented on the Charlottesville incident. He went against a Trump appointed judicial nominee not once but twice, even after getting a lot of party pressure. He also was against Trump killing NAFTA.

That's actually the opposite of doing what a good boy is told...

It is, interestingly enough (his opposition to nominations) why I dug into his history a few years ago, and why I respect and like him. He's got his own mind, and not a party shill.

It has nothing to do with his color. Sorry but it’s the truth. I can say this about any of the many junior senators. It’s what most junior senators do. Hes on a few big committees buts about it. I’ve met him. Ive volunteered with him. He is a nice guy but he isn’t carrying much weight in SC. He hasn’t crafted many pieces of legislation and any he has done don’t make it very far.


This is highly questionable too. He was on the Rules Committee in the House, which is one of the most powerful committees, and where most bills go through before they go to the floor. This is why he wasn't authoring a ton of bills (you can't author when you're the traffic cop).

In the Senate, he's on the Banking committee with the likes of many big names. Same with the Finance, Health, Education, Labor, and other committees.

Eye roll. I resent that.

You made my point again. Yes he is no different from almost all senators. He votes along party lines and doesn’t craft many pieces of legislation. He hasn’t really done anything to warrant a VP spot.

Funny that GOP are running against Joe Cunningham nonstop said the exact same thing about him every day for the last two months. He was Pelosi’s bitch. Votes 90% of time with her. She owns him. They must be racist too. Smh

LOL, and Harris has? She's only been on the national scene since 2017, while Scott has been serving Congress since 2011. Her AG stuff in Cali and San Fran is no big stuff. She's just an ultra progressive dem darling, and gifted a lot because of it, and her home state's status.

Hell, look at Obama's career prior to the presidency lol.

But let's not even talk about Harris or comps. You don't need someone that checks all the status quo DC swamp boxes. You need someone young, smart, likeable, etc, and one that is attractive to folks that aren't necessarily attracted to the primary candidate. You may not see him as carrying weight in SC, but he's well liked nationally by the GOP, and very well liked by certain demographics.

Wtf are you even talking about? I don’t have a team. I’m not in favor of antifa or Portland or right wing extremists. Good lord. Put Fox propaganda station down for a while. Lol

I mean this in the nicest way. Anyone that was here prior to your vacation, knows you have a team. I don't mean you're an Antifa guy, and I know you and I agree on several policy items, but you've squarely put yourself on one side. I'd say that I'm a lot more likely to vote for a moderate Dem than you are a moderate GOP. And full disclosure, I didn't vote for Trump this time...
 
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I don't dislike Ivanka either, I just don't see her as a candidate. Jr has the unlikeable douchiness his dad has. Too soon to tell about Baron. He'll have the blessing/curse to have seen everything his dad did and went through, and hopefully develops his own brain and personality.



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Minimum wage isn't exactly far left...

You call it anti-socialist rhetoric, others see it as spot on. Dem leaders wouldn't be taking it so seriously (I posted the audio) if it there wasn't fire under the smoke. AOC, Bern, and the rest are Socialists. Decorate them however you want, but they are at their core anti-capitalist socialists. The are much farther left than many of the Western countries who simply have socialist elements like healthcare. They simply think they are smart enough to do it right this time, in their way...



This is inaccurate. Scott went against Trump in a few very public instances. He pissed Trump off when he commented on the Charlottesville incident. He went against a Trump appointed judicial nominee not once but twice, even after getting a lot of party pressure. He also was against Trump killing NAFTA.

That's actually the opposite of doing what a good boy is told...

It is, interestingly enough (his opposition to nominations) why I dug into his history a few years ago, and why I respect and like him. He's got his own mind, and not a party shill.




This is highly questionable too. He was on the Rules Committee in the House, which is one of the most powerful committees, and where most bills go through before they go to the floor. This is why he wasn't authoring a ton of bills (you can't author when you're the traffic cop).

In the Senate, he's on the Banking committee with the likes of many big names. Same with the Finance, Health, Education, Labor, and other committees.



LOL, and Harris has? She's only been on the national scene since 2017, while Scott has been serving Congress since 2011. Her AG stuff in Cali and San Fran is no big stuff. She's just an ultra progressive dem darling, and gifted a lot because of it, and her home state's status.

Hell, look at Obama's career prior to the presidency lol.

But let's not even talk about Harris or comps. You don't need someone that checks all the status quo DC swamp boxes. You need someone young, smart, likeable, etc, and one that is attractive to folks that aren't necessarily attracted to the primary candidate. You may not see him as carrying weight in SC, but he's well liked nationally by the GOP, and very well liked by certain demographics.



I mean this in the nicest way. Anyone that was here prior to your vacation, knows you have a team. I don't mean you're an Antifa guy, and I know you and I agree on several policy items, but you've squarely put yourself on one side. I'd say that I'm a lot more likely to vote for a moderate Dem than you are a moderate GOP. And full disclosure, I didn't vote for Trump this time...
I don’t have time to go through this line by line but Tim Scott under trump Voted with the party and Trump 94% of the time. Under Obama is more than that. Rationalize that however you need to.

If you think I am anti conservative you are wrong. I have voted for many conservatives in my life. If you think I am anti GOP then yes I am very much against the way The GOP rolls these days. This doesn’t mean I support or love what the Dems are doing either and I think they are spineless and in general a bunch of pussies. My team is the American team. Make of that what you will.
 

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And everyone calls me a conspiracy theorist....
Someone explain to me how Biden is more popular than Obama? Biden is clearly in mental decline..
How are there more votes for Biden then for any other presidential candidate in history?
Any critical thinker with half a brain can see that Biden is feeble, and has some major problems.
How can Trump be ahead on Election Day by a wide margin and Fox News call Arizona for Biden? PA had wider margin of victory at the same time...
I’ve got my tin foil hat and you all better buckle up. We have officially entered into the time of mistrust in our government. Knowing history will tell us it never ends well.

Now We know why Russiagate was so important. Censorship of the press and people was the outcome. Hunter Biden and the New York Post article should have been the end of the Democrats this cycle...
Censorship.....
and I really don’t like Trump’... imagine that
 
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And everyone calls me a conspiracy theorist....
Someone explain to me how Biden is more popular than Obama? Biden is clearly in mental decline..
How are there more votes for Biden then for any other presidential candidate in history?
Any critical thinker with half a brain can see that Biden is feeble, and has some major problems.
How can Trump be ahead on Election Day by a wide margin and Fox News call Arizona for Biden? PA had wider margin of victory at the same time...
I’ve got my tin foil hat and you all better buckle up. We have officially entered into the time of mistrust in our government. Knowing history will tell us it never ends well.

Now We know why Russiagate was so important. Censorship of the press and people was the outcome. Hunter Biden and the New York Post article should have been the end of the Democrats this cycle...
Censorship.....
and I really don’t like Trump’... imagine that

Biden isn't more popular than Obama and never will be. Biden is 100% in mental decline. It's not a question. He's very old. It happens.

I would think a few things played into voting turnout, A.) Donald Trump generates strong feelings pro and against. B.) It looks like mail voting has become a bigger thing making it easier for folks to vote.

I'm not going to dive into any deep theories. I absolutely believe that urban areas are ripe for fraud, but this was a high turnout election everywhere. It appears in most states, Donald's votes just got counted first because Republicans prefer voting on the day of.

I dont trust the government very much regardless of who is in charge. As always, stock up on guns and ammo gentlemen! Don't want to be caught with your thumb up your ass when shit goes sideways lol
 

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If you’re seriously advocating for Trump’s kids or extended family to potentially run in the future, you are what’s wrong with the GOP right now. Are you that enamored with Trumps cult of a personality that you would be supportive of dynastic claims to the presidency? This is literally worse than when some extreme leftist were advocating for a potential Michele Obama run. Both situations are completely different than Bush Sr, Jr. and even Jeb running, all who have at least had experienced history in politics.

Both parties seriously need to reflect on where they are right now. Dems should not be satisfied with their narrow victory, while Republicans who might be optimistic about such a surprisingly close race, now face the political reality that three of their base states have become swing states (AZ, GA, NC). This after already being the party that is more reliant on winning the majority of swing states.
 

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If you’re seriously advocating for Trump’s kids or extended family to potentially run in the future, you are what’s wrong with the GOP right now. Are you that enamored with Trumps cult of a personality that you would be supportive of dynastic claims to the presidency? This is literally worse than when some extreme leftist were advocating for a potential Michele Obama run. Both situations are completely different than Bush Sr, Jr. and even Jeb running, all who have at least had experienced history in politics.

Both parties seriously need to reflect on where they are right now. Dems should not be satisfied with their narrow victory, while Republicans who might be optimistic about such a surprisingly close race, now face the political reality that three of their base states have become swing states (AZ, GA, NC). This after already being the party that is more reliant on winning the majority of swing states.

To be fair, the "blue wall" certainly appears to no longer be a thing either. I am assuming Michigan and Wisconsin are going to be in play moving forward as well. These things shift over time.

I dont think any serious people want the Trump family to be running in the future. Should be met with the same type of dismissal that normal folks gave Michelle and Hillary.

Bush family is a bit unique, those guys all followed their own path at least. But yeah political dynasties should be avoided unless the Hapsburgs or House of Bourbon wants to come here lol.
 

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And everyone calls me a conspiracy theorist....
Someone explain to me how Biden is more popular than Obama? Biden is clearly in mental decline..

How are there more votes for Biden then for any other presidential candidate in history?
Any critical thinker with half a brain can see that Biden is feeble, and has some major problems.
How can Trump be ahead on Election Day by a wide margin and Fox News call Arizona for Biden? PA had wider margin of victory at the same time...
I’ve got my tin foil hat and you all better buckle up. We have officially entered into the time of mistrust in our government. Knowing history will tell us it never ends well.

Now We know why Russiagate was so important. Censorship of the press and people was the outcome. Hunter Biden and the New York Post article should have been the end of the Democrats this cycle...
Censorship.....
and I really don’t like Trump’... imagine that

Don't worry Biden isn't. CNN actually caught the voter fraud live unbeknownst to them at one time. I am guessing you have seen videos or the screenshots of it. Their feed was a split second behind the national feed on the top of their screen. Upon the national update, one candidates totals went up the same amount the others went down. CNN's feed still had the old totals up for that split before pulling out, but people caught it.
SCORECARD and Hammer programs were in full effect on election night. Trumps attorney has already mentioned it in interviews too.
 

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Don't worry Biden isn't. CNN actually caught the voter fraud live unbeknownst to them at one time. I am guessing you have seen videos or the screenshots of it. Their feed was a split second behind the national feed on the top of their screen. Upon the national update, one candidates totals went up the same amount the others went down. CNN's feed still had the old totals up for that split before pulling out, but people caught it.
SCORECARD and Hammer programs were in full effect on election night. Trumps attorney has already mentioned it in interviews too.

I haven’t seen videos or screenshots of it.. could you link to it?
 

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People think Dems cheated but didnt take control of the Senate????? LMFAO.

That would have been a mighty map to close in on. I think the Dems cheated for sure, but likely not so much that is swung the election. I do think they cheated Sean Parnell in PA17 and John James in Michigan.
 
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