2020 Elections

[TorontoGold]

What does this have to do with who published the tweet? I'll go find the same video from another source if you'd like.

That's actual footage of Joe Biden speaking at a campaign event... does he seem "with it" to you?

He routinely has mislead people with his Twitter account, I would be very hesitant to trust him.

If there is another person with the same video then that'd probably be a better option. That guy is seriously not someone you want to be consuming any content from.

If the video is true? Biden is known to sound like a complete doofus at times.

 

[TorontoGold]

Get a clue. It's a vid. It's not an opinion piece, or some biased network telling you how to feel or vote. It's a vid everyone can watch and make up their own mind. If a neo nazi posted a vid of Trump saying he paid Russians to interfere, no one would care it was a neo nazi that posted it.

Except the Neo Nazi's would never do that, because you know, they love Trump.

 

[Irish YJ]

Except the Neo Nazi's would never do that, because you know, they love Trump.

I know you're not so dense that you don't get the point.

He routinely has mislead people with his Twitter account, I would be very hesitant to trust him.

If there is another person with the same video then that'd probably be a better option. That guy is seriously not someone you want to be consuming any content from.

If the video is true? Biden is known to sound like a complete doofus at times.

It's a vid. The good thing about vids, is people can judge them themselves. And also, if it's fake, there's sure to be other vids out there that prove it's fake. You're outrage is misplaced here lol.

 

[TorontoGold]

I know you're not so dense that you don't get the point.



It's a vid. The good thing about vids, is people can judge them themselves. And also, if it's fake, there's sure to be other vids out there that prove it's fake. You're outrage is misplaced here lol.

Lol I was just poking at you.

But you're a (former?) Reuters guy, so I KNOW deep down you don't like whackjobs. I think if we're demanding better of MSM, the group that should be replacing them shouldn't be lunatics like Jack Posobeic or Seth Abramson.

 

[IrishLax]

What does this have to do with who published the tweet? I'll go find the same video from another source if you'd like.

That's actual footage of Joe Biden speaking at a campaign event... does he seem "with it" to you?

I’m sorry but Joe Biden just executed an entire 1 hour town hall with a high level of competence. Extremely coherent, policy specific answers to real questions. So yeah, he seems “with it”.

Meanwhile Donal Trump just claimed that “maybe he’s immune” to COVID after requiring supplemental oxygen, steroids, and therapeutics. That’s someone who is actually deranged.

 

[Irish YJ]

I’m sorry but Joe Biden just executed an entire 1 hour town hall with a high level of competence. Extremely coherent, policy specific answers to real questions. So yeah, he seems “with it”.

Meanwhile Donal Trump just claimed that “maybe he’s immune” to COVID after requiring supplemental oxygen, steroids, and therapeutics. That’s someone who is actually deranged.

Honest question as I didn't see it. Were the TH questions softballs?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I honestly can’t understand how Jack Posebic isn’t well know to the right side of the aisle. He has been a disinformation propaganda troll for many years. He’s worse than Charlie Kirk but not as foolish as Jacob Wohl.

I can almost guarantee that video posted by Jack was out of context.

 

[Irish YJ]

Lol I was just poking at you.

But you're a (former?) Reuters guy, so I KNOW deep down you don't like whackjobs. I think if we're demanding better of MSM, the group that should be replacing them shouldn't be lunatics like Jack Posobeic or Seth Abramson.

Not sure who is saying either should replace anyone. I don't know who either is. I'm not really a whackjob tracker. There's enough whack jobs in plane site on MSM. I do google a source if it's a study or opinion piece, but not a vid.

Again, posting a vid is about as least-bias as you can be. It's something you can watch, compare to other vids, or full video if you want context, etc..

 

[Irish YJ]

Here's another vid. Have zero idea who the poster is, but seems Twitter has taken it down a few times.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Could you speak a bit louder for those of us in the back?<br><br>“The reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home was because some black woman was able to stock the grocery shelf.” <a href="https://t.co/TV5yDQKMra">pic.twitter.com/TV5yDQKMra</a></p>— Dan Mellis (@MtgGuyDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MtgGuyDan/status/1313223881134534656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[TorontoGold]

Not sure who is saying either should replace anyone. I don't know who either is. I'm not really a whackjob tracker. There's enough whack jobs in plane site on MSM. I do google a source if it's a study or opinion piece, but not a vid.

Again, posting a vid is about as least-bias as you can be. It's something you can watch, compare to other vids, or full video if you want context, etc..

You constantly bemoan that MSM is corrupt, so I would think you'd at least want some sort of change. You have enough to time to research which universities are #9 in most liberal bias, so its not out the realm of possibility that you'd know one of the most famous alt right trolls. Of course, this all under the assumption you don't actually know who he is.

I don't give Jack Posobeic any unneeded clicks. Post something from someone with a shred of credibility and you'll get an honest response.

 

[IrishLax]

Honest question as I didn't see it. Were the TH questions softballs?

Not really sure how to answer that because I don’t know what constitutes a “softball.”

For example, he got asked by a young voter voting in presumably their first election why he should vote for someone who is 77 and, basically, out of touch. Is that a softball? Probably not. But getting asked “what would you do differently to combat COVID” probably is in some people’s minds... while at it’s root it’s a neutral policy question.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Jack Posobiec and Mike Cernovich were directly responsible for attacking James Gunn and getting him fired during the Me Too time frame. They went and dug up a bunch of James really old tweets and amplified them as sexist and demeaning. Disney fires him shortly thereafter. They had no reason to do so except to do so.

 

[IrishLax]

Here's another vid. Have zero idea who the poster is, but seems Twitter has taken it down a few times.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Could you speak a bit louder for those of us in the back?<br><br>“The reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home was because some black woman was able to stock the grocery shelf.” <a href="https://t.co/TV5yDQKMra">pic.twitter.com/TV5yDQKMra</a></p>— Dan Mellis (@MtgGuyDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MtgGuyDan/status/1313223881134534656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What’s wrong with this? Black isn’t an offensive term, and we have no idea what specifically he was speaking to because it’s another 10 second propaganda clip.

What if his whole statement was: “COVID is disproportionately affecting people of color and low income essential workers. The only reason I was able to stay sequestered was because of a black woman stocking the shelves. We need to do more for these people, because those with means aren’t having to take the same risks on a daily basis.”

I’ve been guilty of buying into out-of-context Trump quotes and clips, so I’m not saying this is some high crime. It’s just weird to log on here with all of the actually important stuff that transpired today and see that this is what’s being discussed.

 

[Irish YJ]

What’s wrong with this? Black isn’t an offensive term, and we have no idea what specifically he was speaking to because it’s another 10 second propaganda clip.

What if his whole statement was: “COVID is disproportionately affecting people of color and low income essential workers. The only reason I was able to stay sequestered was because of a black woman stocking the shelves. We need to do more for these people, because those with means aren’t having to take the same risks on a daily basis.”

I’ve been guilty of buying into out-of-context Trump quotes and clips, so I’m not saying this is some high crime. It’s just weird to log on here with all of the actually important stuff that transpired today and see that this is what’s being discussed.

Not sure anything is wrong with it. If the context is as you spitball, absolutely nothing. If not, why call a color. If the context that you suggest doesn't exist, Trump would get creamed if he said the same.

 

[Irish YJ]

Jack Posobiec and Mike Cernovich were directly responsible for attacking James Gunn and getting him fired during the Me Too time frame. They went and dug up a bunch of James really old tweets and amplified them as sexist and demeaning. Disney fires him shortly thereafter. They had no reason to do so except to do so.

IDK, IIRC the tweets were pretty vile, especially the pedo stuff. Not sure why it's OK to go through someone's year book from 35+ years ago when he was a teen, and make a big deal over some silly shit that's in all of our yearbooks, and not bring up some tweets from 5ish years ago when a person is an adult.

For the record, don't know either of the dudes you're talking about. I have zero problem though with someone on the right digging up tweets as the left has done the same thing.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not really sure how to answer that because I don’t know what constitutes a “softball.”

For example, he got asked by a young voter voting in presumably their first election why he should vote for someone who is 77 and, basically, out of touch. Is that a softball? Probably not. But getting asked “what would you do differently to combat COVID” probably is in some people’s minds... while at it’s root it’s a neutral policy question.

Sounds soft to me. It was basically an opportunity for Joe to tell the young kids he's cool, and not out of touch.

 

[Irish YJ]

You constantly bemoan that MSM is corrupt, so I would think you'd at least want some sort of change. You have enough to time to research which universities are #9 in most liberal bias, so its not out the realm of possibility that you'd know one of the most famous alt right trolls. Of course, this all under the assumption you don't actually know who he is.

I don't give Jack Posobeic any unneeded clicks. Post something from someone with a shred of credibility and you'll get an honest response.

Huh? Those guys, whoever they are aren't MSM. Again, I'll only look for a source if it's an opinion piece or study. No reason to do that on a video. A video isn't an opinion or study that I need to reflect on "who saying this". A video is a person saying something, regarless who shares.

And you seem to know all the whack jobs on both sides, so you can be our whack job checker.

 

[TorontoGold]

Huh? Those guys, whoever they are aren't MSM. Again, I'll only look for a source if it's an opinion piece or study. No reason to do that on a video. A video isn't an opinion or study that I need to reflect on "who saying this". A video is a person saying something, regarless who shares.

And you seem to know all the whack jobs on both sides, so you can be our whack job checker.

A video that can be cut down to remove context, or key information. I know the point of the video is to show ol creepy Joe (tbh its probably an awkward dumb gaffe).

If it helps you from consuming white nationalist's social media, I'll take it.

 

[Irish YJ]

A video that can be cut down to remove context, or key information. I know the point of the video is to show ol creepy Joe (tbh its probably an awkward dumb gaffe).

If it helps you from consuming white nationalist's social media, I'll take it.

Like I said, a vid can easily be checked. Don't think that vid needs a lot of context though.

I try to help Legacy from consuming all the far left stuff, but it just doesn't help. I'll try to help you too.

 

[ulukinatme]

Here's another vid. Have zero idea who the poster is, but seems Twitter has taken it down a few times.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Could you speak a bit louder for those of us in the back?<br><br>“The reason I was able to stay sequestered in my home was because some black woman was able to stock the grocery shelf.” <a href="https://t.co/TV5yDQKMra">pic.twitter.com/TV5yDQKMra</a></p>— Dan Mellis (@MtgGuyDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MtgGuyDan/status/1313223881134534656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What’s wrong with this? Black isn’t an offensive term, and we have no idea what specifically he was speaking to because it’s another 10 second propaganda clip.

 

[IrishLax]

New SSRS/CNN post-debate, post-COVID poll has Biden up 16 points: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/10/06/rel12b.-.2020.pdf

This is a B+ live poll with a Democrat lean so take it with a grain of salt. The main thing we've seen in multiple polls post-debate and post-COVID is a major move with seniors away from Trump. The elderly are breaking for Biden at almost a 2-to-1 rate now which is unheard of for a Democrat.

 

[IrishLax]

A+ Monmouth poll has Biden up 12 point with registered voters in Pennsylvania. Up 8-11 points with likely voters.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_pa_100620/

 

[TorontoGold]

538's election forecast has Biden at 82% to win. IIRC they gave Trump the best odds in 2016 out of any major model.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

 

[Irishize]

Regardless of the winner, I hope it’s not a close vote & contestable b/c one thing we can all be sure of is that neither candidate/party is going to accept a close loss.

 

[IrishLax]

538's election forecast has Biden at 82% to win. IIRC they gave Trump the best odds in 2016 out of any major model.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

I don't put any weight in projections right now because we have no clue who is actually going to show up to vote. Or what % of absentee ballots are going to get thrown out. More than any other election cycle in recent history you can't trust polls because of the very high potential for voting irregularities.

 

[TorontoGold]

I don't put any weight in projections right now because we have no clue who is actually going to show up to vote. Or what % of absentee ballots are going to get thrown out. More than any other election cycle in recent history you can't trust polls because of the very high potential for voting irregularities.

Fair enough. Personally I like them because there's at least some scientific method to their result rather than hearing a talking head or campaign rep talk about their preferred candidate.

 

[TorontoGold]

As Herbstreit said a few years back "And that's why you're Michigan State"

Project Veritas showing why it's got the rep it does.

https://www.fox9.com/news/subject-of-project-veritas-voter-fraud-story-says-he-was-offered-bribe

 

[Irish YJ]

As Herbstreit said a few years back "And that's why you're Michigan State"

Project Veritas showing why it's got the rep it does.

https://www.fox9.com/news/subject-of-project-veritas-voter-fraud-story-says-he-was-offered-bribe

Not saying we need to believe PV, or not (both sound sketchy), but what is funny, the guy that is calling foul, also says he's complained about voter fraud in that area. So the basis of PV's video is calling out fraud, and the guy saying he was bribed, also has called out voter fraud.

Morale of the story, both agree there is voter fraud.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not really sure how to answer that because I don’t know what constitutes a “softball.”

For example, he got asked by a young voter voting in presumably their first election why he should vote for someone who is 77 and, basically, out of touch. Is that a softball? Probably not. But getting asked “what would you do differently to combat COVID” probably is in some people’s minds... while at it’s root it’s a neutral policy question.

Sounds soft to me. It was basically an opportunity for Joe to tell the young kids he's cool, and not out of touch.

Watched some it, saw some other highlights. Wasn't gaffe free, or totally clean. And even left leaning Politico poked fun at the "undecided" voters and more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NBC's town hall with Joe Biden & "undecided voters" in Miami didn't seem to have undecided voters. Nor was it much of a Miami town hall, which would have way more yelling & pointed questions. It was a TV show that doubled as a Biden infomercial. Can't blame him for doing it</p>— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1313283936072749056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Legacy]

Limiting 538's polls to just those rated A+ (6 only) for President

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll (rated A) shows those over 65 now back Biden by 62 percent to 35 percent (27%) with a CNN poll having Biden up 21 points with seniors. A year ago Biden was up by 11% with seniors. The NBC/WSJ poll has suburban women favor Biden by 58 percent to 33 percent. The last Dem that won the senior vote was Gore in 2000 by 4%.

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