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2016 Notre Dame Preview

Notre Dame enters this year #1 in pretty much all "media" style polls and #2 in the coaches poll behind reigning champ Denver. What's weird about this team is that despite returning three 1st team All-Americans I'd argue that the squad has an incredible amount of question marks, unproven players, and holes relative to some teams of the past. Does individual talent carry the day? Or is chemistry and cohesiveness an issue? Here is a breakdown of how the team looks by position group.

Attack
Notre Dame returns 1st Team All-American and Tewaaraton finalist Matt Kavanagh alongside dominant finisher Mikey Wynne. Wynne was second on the team in scoring last year as a true freshman, and will only be better this year. Kavanagh -- the king of clutch -- returns from multiple debilitating injuries that required surgery and significantly limited him over virtually the entire season. The question mark comes with replacing leading point producer Conor Doyle at the other attack position. Wynne is strictly an inside-out player and not much of an initiator or dodger. He's the kind of guy who will kill you if you slide off of him, but isn't going to create offense for other players. Kavanagh lives on the "lefty" wing and at X behind the goal. So who steps in for Doyle at the "righty" position?

The problem is that most of the known quantities and top prospects are lefties. Eddy Lubowicki -- who has produced exceptionally well on the EMO -- is suited best for playing on the wing where Kavanagh stars. Incoming #2 overall recruit Ryder Garnsey is a dynamic dodger and perfectly suited for the role of initiator... but he is also a lefty. The dark horses for the sport are Anthony Marini and Carl Walrath. Marini is a shifty, pint-sized dodger who played very well this offseason but hasn't shown much on the field since arriving in South Bend. Carl Walrath was once the #5 recruit in the country, but was the odd-man-out at UVA... before getting kicked off the team for punching a cop. Can anyone imagine ND football taking a graduate transfer that got kicked out of their previous school and did jail time for assaulting a police officer? The other names in the mix are all complete unknowns like Tyler Ruhl or possible midfielder conversions like Pierre Byrne or Bobby Gray.

What's most likely is that Corrigan will be multiple with the position for at least the early part of the year, and possibly run the 3rd attackman out of the box like the Irish did many times with Doyle. It wouldn't be surprising to see Notre Dame play effectively four "midfielders" at times to compliment Wynne and Kavanagh who will be the two permanents on offense. Hopefully, someone steps up and solidifies the position sooner rather than later.

Midfield
Another position that returns a 1st Team All-American but also loses a number of multi-year mainstays. Back is unstoppable force of nature Sergio Perkovic, gone are Nick Ossello, Jim Marlatt, and Will Corrigan. Maybe most importantly, dominant two-way midfielder and top MLL draft pick Jack Near leaves a huge void at that position. Near was unique in his ability to play truly elite defense and also push transition better than pretty much any "defensive" player in the NCAA.

On the first line, you may see more addition-by-subtraction with the departure of Will Corrigan. Brendan Collins seems likely to shift from a SSDM role to a featured position on the first line. He's similar to Ossello in athleticism, but with more of a refined offensive game. Collins was shockingly good on offense this fall. So the first line of midfielders will feature Perkovic, a seamless Ossello fill-in, and then a mystery man that should -- at minimum -- provide more of an athletic, dodging threat than Corrigan was. Many people right now think that Notre Dame will rotate players at that spot to keep opposing defenses off balance, including some of the aforementioned attackmen.

The second line will be comprised of a lot of unproven players or guys that haven't shown great things in the minutes they've gotten. Trevor Brosco, Ben Pridemore, Cole Riccardi, Bobby Gray, Pierre Byrne, Jordan Walter, and Timmy Phillips are the guys you hear the most about in terms of making an impact on the second line or that last first line spot. Can Brosco and Pridemore turn the corner and become impact players? Do the coaches value the consistency of someone like Cole Riccardi? Or do they roll the dice with some young guns? Lots and lots of question marks.

What also makes things difficult is that some bodies will be needed at SSDM. Notre Dame generally likes to run at least 3 and typically 4 or more players at that position to keep them fresh. With Collins moving into a key offensive role, that leaves on Nick Koshansky and Robert Collins as proven SSDM players. Are any of those guys listed above... especially players with lots of athletic ability like Timmy Phillips... asked to play primarily defense like Collins was last year? Or do the new bodies come from reserves?

Defense
Probably the most loaded defensive team in the country, and certainly so outside of the goalie position. Shane Doss is a very streaky netminder, but the guys in front of him are going to be downright nasty this year. This is the one position where there are no question marks and no holes to fill... just lots of soul crushers. Matt Landis is the returning 1st Team All-American and top 5 MLL draft pick. If I was making a 30-for-30 on this defense, the tagline would be "What if I told you, Matt Landis wasn't even the best defender on his team?"... because Garrett Epple is criminally under appreciated. Landis rightfully gets accolades and credit for being a versatile, shutdown* defender... but Epple is a takeaway artist and Hoover vacuum. Nobody does a better job of getting the ball back than him. Stats often lie, but in this case they paint a clear picture of how dominant Epple can be. He had nearly 50% more caused turnovers than any other defender and scooped up the most groundballs of anyone on the team which is absolutely unheard of for a close defender.** Remember, Matt Landis is universally considered the best defender in the country... so what does that make Epple?

The forgotten man in the bunch is Eddy Glazener. Glazener is more famous for his bagpipe talents than play on the field, but that's only because he's overshadowed by two aforementioned superstars. The truth is that he's a very good player, and shows it on the field. If he wasn't good, then any of the bevvy of talented defenders waiting in the wings would take his spot. At LSM, look for John Sexton to headline the group with contributions from a number of other defenders. Expect freshman Hugh Crance to get some runs alongside Pat Healy.

*Landis gets some undue credit because Notre Dame's system makes it very hard to get "beat"... but his footwork and stickwork are fantastic. Whereas you will see Matt Kavanagh routinely beat his man and score, it is exceptionally rare to see Landis get blown by.
**Epple at times played on the wing for faceoffs, which inflates his groundball total significantly. But the reason he played on the wing is that he is a freaking monster at GBs.

Specialists
The most glaring hole on the Notre Dame team, by far, is at the faceoff dot. Neither PJ Finley nor John Travisiano have shown to be dominant draw takers, and if Notre Dame cannot keep it near 50% against other elite teams that could spell doom for the Irish. Pray that these players take a big step forward in production.

On EMO, Notre Dame replaces Conor Doyle and Jim Marlatt. Notre Dame basically plays a 2-3-1 on their EMO offense with Lubowicki at X, Kavanagh on the right wing, Wynne on the crease, and Perkovic at the top of the box on the right side. The motion comes from Kavanagh rotating through the crease and Lubowicki stepping up into that wing spot Kavanagh vacated... so there is effectively no schematic change to where most of the offense came from the past two years.

Marlatt played at the top of the box on the left side, and Doyle played on the left wing. So you're looking for someone with a big shot and good stick skills to replace Marlatt, and a right-handed attackman with good finishing ability and facilitating skills to replace Doyle. My money would be on Marini to step in for Doyle and either Collins or a reserve player like Bartolo to fill in for Marlatt. The EMO offense should not miss a beat as long as the Marlatt fill in is a serious threat from long range.

Season Projection
If Notre Dame can get consistent play at the faceoff dot and in cage there is no doubt that they are the best team in the country. Few teams have three bonafide superstars like the Irish, and even fewer have "secondary" players the caliber of Wynne, Epple, and Collins.

Notre Dame's schedule is a gauntlet featuring the majority of the top 10. Notre Dame opens with three winnable games where they can find their footing before heading into six straight against elite competition/rivals. Decent Marquette and Army teams worked in around UNC and the ACC tournament to close the year.

A reasonable expectation would be a 2 or 3 loss season for Notre Dame given the caliber of their opponents. Notre Dame is the favorite to win the ACC, and should garner a seed for the NCAA tournament. There is a large talent gap between the top 8ish teams and the rest of the field, and beyond that most teams outside of Denver, Notre Dame, Duke, and Maryland seem to have serious question marks. This doesn't mean they might not be very good or championship caliber, but it does mean that the high expectations for Notre Dame are reasonable. Anything other than a final four appearance would be a sore disappointment... and this is the year that Notre Dame is best equipped to win a national championship if they can find players to adequately fill the big holes on offense, get consistent play with a 55% save percentage in goal, and win at least 50% of their faceoffs.
 
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The annual Steak and Hot Dog Game is this Saturday at noon at Arlotta. So if you're on campus early before the game and looking to catch a scrimmage you can hop over there and check it out. Alternatively, it will be broadcast live on Periscope. I'll find the details tomorrow.

The Steak and Hot Dog Game is a fall ball staple of ND known mostly for elaborate goal celebrations. Periscope link: https://www.periscope.tv/NDlacrosse

In other news, ND scrimmaged Navy this past weekend in DC. My main takeaway from the game is that Brendan Collins could really be an impact player this year. He's got the talent to be a 2-way midfielder and excel in whatever role they want to put him in... he was playing on the 1s with Perkovic and Brosco, and showed exceptional athleticism and more of a refined offensive game than I was expecting.
 
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Fall All-Access from Inside Lacrosse: Fallball All-Access: Notre Dame | Inside Lacrosse

It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the nod in goal, and who plays SSDM. There isn't anybody on the roster that can do what Near did if they run Collins full time on the 1s. That's going to have a bigger impact on our defense than most realize, and it's also going to hurt our transition game (which was A+ last year) and faceoffs (which were not very good to begin with).

The next big question is who gets the nod in place of Doyle. It's going to be really weird running with two lefty attackmen... I'm not sure if that causes problems or not. I personally hope they go with Lubo and let Garnsey play out of the box with the second line of midfielders. I'd also be interest to see what happens with Marini as a righty option. He's a very quick player and could contribute on either the midfield or at attack.

Which brings us to midfield lines... the 1s if it's Perkovic/Brosco/Collins is going to be very different from what we saw last year. That gives you 3 dodgers and 2 physical presences. If they shorty both Brosco and Collins that means we're going to get a lot more initiation from the midfield than we're used to seeing. None are quite the athlete of Ossello (who I think has played on special teams in every single game this year for ND football) but all can create their own shot. What will also be interesting to see if Brosco rotates with anyone on that line, and how they configure the 2s. Without a doubt, the midfield should be much more dangerous from a creating/scoring standpoint than what we saw last year.
 

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ND kicks off the year as the pre-season #1 team in the land per the Inside Lacrosse Faceoff Yearbook.
 
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How is Kavanagh doing? Such a dynamic player, hope he is fully healthy.
 

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How is Kavanagh doing? Such a dynamic player, hope he is fully healthy.

I never know whether someone is truly "100%" and they held him out most of fall, but in the Steak & Hot Dog game he looked healthy. He and Perkovic and Collins are going to be the focal points of the offense, so he needs to be at full strength... I hope he doesn't lose any of his fearlessness on account of injury.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Airing in March, we look back at the Duke Lacrosse scandal which captivated the nation a decade ago. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FantasticLies?src=hash">#FantasticLies</a> <a href="https://t.co/kKFO7iQ4LD">pic.twitter.com/kKFO7iQ4LD</a></p>— ESPN Films 30 for 30 (@30for30) <a href="https://twitter.com/30for30/status/684521811439124481">January 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Lax, admittedly I haven't been following too closely but can you explain the Ossello situation--is he indeed not playing lax this year and chose football over it? Any background info there? Seems an interesting choice for a guy who if I remember correctly was getting time.
 

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Lax, admittedly I haven't been following too closely but can you explain the Ossello situation--is he indeed not playing lax this year and chose football over it? Any background info there? Seems an interesting choice for a guy who if I remember correctly was getting time.

He ran out of eligibility in lacrosse, played for four straight years. NCAA rules let him take a 5th year in football. Would be awesome to have had him back this year.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The wait is over. ⏰

Notre Dame Reveals 2016 Schedule <a href="https://t.co/vG2KDdQz2E">https://t.co/vG2KDdQz2E</a> <a href="https://t.co/U3uTOP5Zfl">pic.twitter.com/U3uTOP5Zfl</a></p>— Notre Dame Lacrosse (@NDlacrosse) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDlacrosse/status/689936724869390336">January 20, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Really solid schedule, 7 top 10 teams plus ACC tournament plus good Marquette/Georgetown/Ohio State teams. Get Duke, Denver, and Virginia at home.
 

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The season is upon us... scrimmage with Air Force this weekend at ND.

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I also posted up a preview for this season. Very exciting year, let's get some rings!
 

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TOTALLY pumped for LAX this season for the Irish and expect nothing less than a championship this year! Your preview is incredible....so detailed and spot on. I definitely think Near and Doyle will be missed but there's so much talent on this team it really shouldn't matter.
 

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Please let me know if anyone finds a way to stream the game against georgetown this weekend!
 

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GT has talent. Berge could explode this year, he is a stud. Outside of him though a lot of young guys will be relied on. Not sure they return enough production on Attack, Zeke Morill will need to step up if they are going to challenge the ND defense.
 

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Game time! Shane Doss starting in goal.

Watch all the games on lb3live.com today for $5... Duke/Denver is on after ND.
 

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4-0 good guys after 1. Goaltending and faceoffs... the two big question marks entering the season... A+ so far. Kavanagh looks a little bit off, but the team in general looks strong, especially on defense. Perkovic with two big 15+ yard bombs.
 

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4-0 good guys after 1. Goaltending and faceoffs... the two big question marks entering the season... A+ so far. Kavanagh looks a little bit off, but the team in general looks strong, especially on defense. Perkovic with two big 15+ yard bombs.

Is Kavanagh expected to be back at pre-injury (injuries?) form or could that be awhile yet?
 

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Is Kavanagh expected to be back at pre-injury (injuries?) form or could that be awhile yet?

From what I saw in the offseason and heard from people, he was expected to be darn close to 100%. He doesn't look "bad" just not quite as explosive (but maybe he doesn't need to be taking it hard to the goal right now) and his stick skills seem off. Missed a couple shots he usually makes and has had some misplays of the ball.

7-3 good guys at half.
 

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Well now Shane Doss is playing like ass and it's 7-5... that's two REALLY soft goals he just let in.
 

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FINAL: ND 12 Georgetown 7

Defense and Shane Doss were very good in the 1st and 4th, overall played an extremely good game with only some lapses in the middle. Biggest issue I saw was that the hesitancy to slide to drives from X let Georgetown players to blindly hurl the ball at the goal from close range, which is actually a decent percentage play.

Finley was excellent at faceoffs, transition offense was great and ND easily could've had 15+ with some better shooting. Sexton was elite at LSM and being an offensive threat. The "special teams" were overall great.

Thought Lubowicki missed way too many opportunities in his first game as a starter, thought Mikey Wynne was a much more complete offensive player than we saw last year which is encouraging, and I thought Ryder Garnsey flashed some brilliance. At midfield, lines were generally static with Perkovic/Collins/Brosco, and Riccardi/Gray/Phillips. I'm not really sure what to think of the second line, but the offense was virtually unguardable when the 1s were on the field.

Matt Kavanagh didn't play almost the entire the 4th quarter, so that'll be a situation to follow. Maybe they have scheduled rest for him, or maybe he's hurt. He did take a shift on EMO which seems to indicate that they simply have him on a pitch count and knew the game was in hand.

EDIT: This save is absurd:
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FINAL: ND 12 Georgetown 7

Defense and Shane Doss were very good in the 1st and 4th, overall played an extremely good game with only some lapses in the middle. Biggest issue I saw was that the hesitancy to slide to drives from X let Georgetown players to blindly hurl the ball at the goal from close range, which is actually a decent percentage play.

Finley was excellent at faceoffs, transition offense was great and ND easily could've had 15+ with some better shooting. Sexton was elite at LSM and being an offensive threat. The "special teams" were overall great.

Thought Lubowicki missed way too many opportunities in his first game as a starter, thought Mikey Wynne was a much more complete offensive player than we saw last year which is encouraging, and I thought Ryder Garnsey flashed some brilliance. At midfield, lines were generally static with Perkovic/Collins/Brosco, and Riccardi/Gray/Phillips. I'm not really sure what to think of the second line, but the offense was virtually unguardable when the 1s were on the field.

Matt Kavanagh didn't play almost the entire the 4th quarter, so that'll be a situation to follow. Maybe they have scheduled rest for him, or maybe he's hurt. He did take a shift on EMO which seems to indicate that they simply have him on a pitch count and knew the game was in hand.

EDIT: This save is absurd:
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TOTALLY impressed with Sexton. Awesome game!
Obviously Perk looked great too. He's a beast and is going to be unstoppable.
I agree with you about Wynne....Nice progression.
Doss, definitely looked streaky....Some amazing plays and some...I really thought he could have had those goals...
I thought the D played okay. There were definite times where I just thought they looked a little slow....almost stuck in the mud slow...
My biggest concern is with Kav. I don't think he looked explosive and the announcers said he was grimacing by the trainers in the fourth. IMO, he's going to be the difference between rings or no rings...Hopefully he can get back to form!
Overall, nice win though with a lot to look forward to.
 
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