2015 PRE SEASON CAMP THREAD

[johnnycando]

Right I mean wtf.

 

[BabyIrish]

I'd hope you could figure out it was Wimbush and it was auto-corrected

 

[johnnycando]

I'd hope you could figure out it was Wimbush and it was auto-corrected

I'm glad you took the time to correct it.

 

[BabyIrish]

Didn't want you to be confused any longer

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You don't think saying there work is bullstuff and saying it's crap is insulting, that has me confused. You regularly like to throw out those comments to those that may or may not know a lot about football. I love you bogs, but that's ridiculous to think they know nothing relative to you or I. It's their opinion, we don't have to agree but they are not all bad. Some in fact have a very good grasp on what is going on. For example, Lax said he heard Zaire had a bad bad day, that's what 247 reported. So they saw the same thing. That's all crap to you?

The bull stuff I was referring to is making a big deal, probably out of context, about taking the red shirt off Wimbush. The decision is Kelly's solely. If Kelly put it out there to motivate Zaire or Kizer, so be it.

But it was probably something said in the excitement of the moment, and recording it for posterity has all the marks of a media source trolling for clicks.

I am not upset with anyone thinking or saying it. I wish all three quarterbacks success!

For them, for Kelly&staff, for the team, and for the fans! Lord knows that ND has had to go the long way around the tree for passable quarterback play since Kelly has been with the IRISH!

As far as "the day," exactly the way I heard it was that Zaire may have made more unimpressive plays than the other quarterbacks, but he had more impressive plays, also. And when you combing the running aspect with throwing, he was in a class of his own. Thus, the media buzz for calling him a true dual threat quarterback.

Wasn't it TP that said related to another situation, the first day at camp is one thing, but two weeks later when everyone's legs are tired is another?

But anointing Wimbush as the heir apparent after one day of practice, seems to be more of what causes problems than a solution. Does anyone think for a minute that Mike Sanford isn't flat out interested in developing all three quarterbacks to their best level of play?

And that he doesn't want the best for them, and the team? Every indication I have is that he is a genuine compassionate genius, who has a pension for getting to the details of the game. And he finds that in mastering the basics, and as Kelly iterated for the first time this summer, "Practicing by doing the right thing, and then doing it every time!" Consistency. It is all about being able to repeat the same results time after time. This is not unique to football; it is the stuff of success in any facet of life!

So, I hope you can understand from my perspective I am not commenting on a knowledge basis. I see myself as talking about something in life that is pretty absolute, and outside of a technical conversation about football. Maybe I should find a way to strip these points of mine in the conversation, of any talk whatsoever of football tech. I can understand how one may confuse my attempt with an assertion of football expertise. But I am not that good!

As far as football knowledge, especially about quarterback, I am definitely not the guy. I think there are about 160 of you guys (including you Lucky) that have probably forgotten more than I know!

So I offer an apology if you thought I was saying anything bad about a player, member of the staff. or a poster on this site. And, along with TP, Panda, NDdomer3, 4, and five, IrishLax, BigEdefense, Ironman, Whiskey, Jojo, Johnny, NDFANSW, and too many others to mention, I respect your knowledge of the game! The only thing that bothers me about this exchange and my posts is that I gave you the impression that I would compare my football knowledge favorably to any of you.

And I am really glad you love me!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Also, it sounds like your last post is directed at Wimbush being 2 over Kizer, well Kizer hasn't played a snap of college football either so your entire post would relate to him as well, right?

Played or practiced would have been a better way of stating it. As little experience as DeShone has, he is at least familiar to working at the level ND is at in practice.

I would like to bring in a quote Lax picked up and posted in the Todd Lyght thread :

Lou Holtz applauds Todd Lyght's apparent return to ND - Notre Dame Insider: Notre Dame Football

Hansen article with quotes from Holtz that I found interesting (considering what happened with Jennings this year), and Wiltfong on whether he'll be a good recruiter.

I have heard others dance around this subject, but watching the play of the defensive backs I am feeling this. It will be interesting to see the progress of the defensive line, and the running backs, in the same respect.

PS. : Was that Drew covering (trying) Jones in that last play? That whole thing was incredible, from how Jones got off the line (for being a tight end) through his little toss and catch in the air after the TD!

 

[Fbolt]

A ton of talk about Wimbush, which is obv important but IMO, the more important pieces with the team would be the K and P duo.

MOAR P/K clips!!!

 

[calvegas04]

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[stlnd01]

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Just me, or was Tranquil's pass breakup pretty much textbook pass interference? #shootfromadifferentanglesowecan'tseethegrabbing

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Easily Pass interference but it's a call that could be 50/50 in games. Our WR's look quick.

 

[irishandy]

Good to ESB, I haven't seen or read anything about him....I know its early.

Aliz'e made that look way to easy vs. Tranquill.

 

[Redbar]

I know, I know, one rep, day 3, but I want to acknowledge that Breezy ran right by Cole. These guys on both sides of the ball are facing some of their stiffest competition in practice. If guys give great effort and hold each other accountable they will be well prepared for the best on this schedule.

 

[NDPhilly]

We don't need him there but I can't help but think that Tranquill could make a great OLB in a 4-3

 

[Buster Bluth]

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[dublinirish]

Just me, or was Tranquil's pass breakup pretty much textbook pass interference? #shootfromadifferentanglesowecan'tseethegrabbing

aha yeah it definitely was PI

 

[Luckylucci]

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It's fun to watch the freshman get reps and compete.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Crawford seems to be for real. Doesn't it seem like he has had a lot of clips in these early featured play highlights?

 

[dublinirish]

It's fun to watch the freshman get reps and compete.

i could swear in previous years we never saw much of the freshmen on watchNd videos? Seemed like they were always wrapped in cotton wool. Nice to see the WR's and DB's getting featured.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

i could swear in previous years we never saw much of the freshmen on watchNd videos? Seemed like they were always wrapped in cotton wool. Nice to see the WR's and DB's getting featured.

Don't you think the fact that we are seeing so much of the freshmen (on both sides of the ball) this year is a complete and strong statement, in and of itself?

 

[dublinirish]

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[#1rish]

Helloooo Laura

 

[Luckylucci]

i could swear in previous years we never saw much of the freshmen on watchNd videos? Seemed like they were always wrapped in cotton wool. Nice to see the WR's and DB's getting featured.

It's pretty hard to know for sure if that's truly the case but I'd agree it seems they are getting more reps than in years past. I think that shows a level of confidence in their abilities that the staff feels they need to see what's there before going forward. I also think it's very important to get these kids in there and competing. Gives them a chance to feel as though they are contributing even if they won't later on. Use the early practices to get them acclimated because as camp goes on they'll be seeing less reps.

 

[dublinirish]

Helloooo Laura

HLS had her on for their podcast a few weeks back. She's from Minnesota.

Here's her own podcast, interview with MZ:
https://audioboom.com/boos/3447828-malik-zaire-and-what-we-did-on-our-summer-vacation?utm_campaign

 

[dublinirish]

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ND sports media needs to get Jac doing way more of this kind of spots. He is way more natural at this than the presenting spots they have him doing as a Jack Nolan stand in.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Seriously, I would rate her up their with Coleen Ballenger or Miranda Sings.

On a more serious note. I think Laura is one of the best things to happen to Irish Media lately. She is interesting, has talent, gets a little different angle on things, and lowers the over-the-top, off the charts testosterone level in the room.

On a serious as a heart attack note, I saw Miranda Sings : Miranda's Summer Camp 2015 with some 13 and one 11 year old girls, and just about had the time of my life!

I will save the rest of that discussion for later elsewhere, but I think it is awesome that Notre Dame is investing as much as they are in bringing this stream to us. I never had a problem with Jack. Nor that other guy, Ryan. And I love Reggie; God bless Mirko Jurkovic; he was wonderful! But I really liked the addition of Jac Collinsworth, and now I think adding Laura Thomas is great. The last two particularly add great perspective to the youth point of view, which needs to be represented and listened to, and shows well for the student perspective.

After all, we won't have Jimmy Mac around campus forever! (We may want to revisit the whole nakid lap wager!) In addition, I have grown to especially appreciate the perspective of female fans. They approach the subject from an entirely different direction than old washed up hacks like yours truly! It often stimulates uncovering information that would get missed. (I bet you all expected me to add something about undressing them with my eyes, while listening to their perspective, didn't you? Be honest!)

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You never know what you might come across with <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a> players & their free time at Culver Academies..

<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/camplife?src=hash">#camplife</a> <a href="http://t.co/7NO1aOKtqj">pic.twitter.com/7NO1aOKtqj</a></p>— Michael Bertsch (@NDsidBertschy) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDsidBertschy/status/630133982647177216">August 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Bogtrotter07]

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ND sports media needs to get Jac doing way more of this kind of spots. He is way more natural at this than the presenting spots they have him doing as a Jack Nolan stand in.

Incredible get; incredible timing!

I would give my left nut to have a leader on a team I played on like Joe Schmidt.

We have all heard how smart he is. Great. But this guy would be the waterboy to help the team!

You can't say any more about leadership, even; Protect the players, then protect the mission!

Any guess as to who ran the leadership training the team had at the end of June?

 

[dublinirish]

Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page

Redfield up for ‘crucial’ campaign
Anna Hickey
IrishIllustrated.com
CULVER, Ind. – For Max Redfield, the time is now. Armed with a new focus on football, the junior safety explains how he’s embracing expectations of excellence.

CULVER, Ind. – At a school that promotes its rigorous academic culture, it’s rare for a Notre Dame football player to admit he needed to dial it back in the classroom to focus more on the field.
It’s supposed to work vice-versa, right?
And this isn’t a backup specialist with zero shot of making NFL money. It’s one of the most naturally gifted athletes on Notre Dame’s deep roster.
Safety Max Redfield enters his junior year with the mindset that not only does his team possess the potential to reach lofty heights, but he does too. For Redfield, that means tweaking his major and veering from his vision of early graduation.
“I love knowledge and gaining as much intellect as possible,” Redfield said. “I like that idea a lot. Until recently, I was on track to graduate in three years, and that was a point of mine. I took 18 credits every semester, including Mandarin Chinese, macroeconomics and statistics, but I realize that now it’s going to be my junior year and a crucial year in my football career moving forward.
“The emphasis has to be a lot more on football. I understand that, and I’m going to do everything I can.”
That meant improving as both a leader and communicator. Brian Kelly tried to help that process along this summer, putting the safety in positions where he had to speak in front of the team. Kelly liked what he heard from the safety. He also liked how his teammate reacted to it.
“We gave him the chance the last couple of days to lead and get in front of his peers, and it was well-received,” Kelly said. “So sometimes you've just got to give somebody that chance. And when he was given that chance, he really took hold.
“Academics are very important to him. It's always been important to him. I think he’s seeing how important football is to him as well. That also he has a gift. That gift is he's a great communicator, if given the chance. That builds an incredible amount of confidence in somebody that, well, if I can do this in front of my entire team, I can certainly do it for the safety and the two corners in communicating.”
Redfield believes his upperclassman status boosts his credibility within the roster.
“Obviously communication is really, really important in football, and the more we develop that the better we will be,” Redfield said. “Last year I was a sophomore, so I felt that it wasn’t my place to have that role. We had a lot of seniors that were strong leaders but were not as vocal as they should have been, and we understand that.
“All of us are trying to be leaders and call someone out on something if it’s not up to the standards that coach Kelly wants. Staying consistent with that is going to make us a great team.”
Talk is cheap. Or is it? Perhaps not if it’s coming from your head coach.
“Everybody has great off-seasons, right?” Kelly said. “Who doesn't have a great off-season? But Redfield and his maturity and the way he's really come into his own has been really something to see.”
Except for senior linebacker Joe Schmidt, nobody within the Irish defense mastered Brian VanGorder’s scheme last fall. A second season in that NFL scheme should help everybody else, Redfield included.
“Last year was our first year learning that defense, so it was a little bit of a slow process to pick it up and learn how to communicate,” Redfield said. “It was our first year knowing (VanGorder). He’s not the easiest guy to warm up to, and you can tell he’s from the NFL and wants things done his way, and that’s the right way. We understand that now. We have a year in the system, and we feel much more comfortable. He feels much more comfortable with us because we know the system better. He has been a little bit more open than last year because with time comes comfortability.
“All of the defensive meetings are together. That’s the way VanGorder teaches it. When he talks to the defensive line, we’re hearing it. We need to know some of the defensive line’s concepts and some of their stunts. When he talks to the linebackers, he wants us engaged so we know. Being on that same page as a unit is making our defense much more fluid and much more easy to be successful.”
Preseason talk has centered on Notre Dame’s skill up and down the roster. But Kelly and the players have been quick point out that talent alone does not guarantee wins.
“We understand we have so much talent and we have such a strong bond,” Redfield said. “You’ll always see us off the field hanging out and we can all laugh together. I feel like the attitude is completely different than what we had before. It’s consistent throughout the defense. We’re playing a lot more for each other, which I feel is very important for the elite team we’re trying to be. Obviously, we got upgrades across the board with coaches. We all know we have something special, and knowing that is a great mindset to have because we know we need to harness the skills that we have to further develop our communication.”
Expectations for Redfield are high enough that Phil Steele’s pre-season magazine tabbed him a first-team All-American. That’s a big jump for a player who was benched last November. Redfield admitted he’s surprised to get that kind of publicity, even if he agrees with it privately.
“With the season that I had last year, I don’t feel really that deserving,” Redfield said. “But I feel like I’m definitely that kind of player, and I want to prove that every day in practice. I’m just happy to be on the radar. That’s all I can ask for.”
Equipped with a new motivation, Redfield believes he’s primed for a breakout season.
“I do understand now that my position is completely dedicated to football,” Redfield said. “The football season is amongst us, and I’m going to do everything I can to prepare for that.”

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/JacCollinsworth">@JacCollinsworth</a> talks with KeiVarae Russell for <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFIM">@NDFIM</a>. Look for this insightful interview in the coming days. <a href="http://t.co/Qg2UmvhFjz">pic.twitter.com/Qg2UmvhFjz</a></p>— Jack Nolan (@NDJackNolan) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDJackNolan/status/630462376203018240">August 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The best leader in the country. <a href="https://twitter.com/joeschmidtiv">@joeschmidtiv</a></p>— DK (@DKizer_14) <a href="https://twitter.com/DKizer_14/status/630507442774872064">August 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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