'19 TX S Brandon Joseph (Northwestern Transfer -> Notre Dame Verbal)

[BabyIrish]

Why? Because you’re an nd fan and he plays for nd?

No because he wasn’t. I’d take Lewis over anyone who starts for Kansas and Rutgers etc

 

[T-Boone]

No because he wasn’t. I’d take Lewis over anyone who starts for Kansas and Rutgers etc

Yeah there must be dozens in the big 12.

 

[du Lac]

Here’s a fun one… in hindsight, where should Brandon Joseph have ranked in his recruiting class for safety? Should he have been a 5 star recruit and top 1-2 in his class? I am guessing yes, but haven’t done the work.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Because there are 65 "Power 5" teams, and to insist that he's literally the worst out of all 130 starting CBs is hyperbolic nonsense. He might be the worst of the starting DBs in the preseason top-10, but that's a far cry from what you're arguing.

You really think that? I got nothing more to say because I think people have blinders on, the film doesn’t lie….. I do hope I’m wrong and he plays solid this year.

If you said you can have any projected cb starter for the 65 Power 5 teams over Lewis is take it, most likely we get an improvement. I can’t imagine a school purposely starting someone worse than him.

On the flip side, I hope hart is healthy and has an even better year. He showed big potential, just needs to stay focused all game and all year. He had mental lapses in some tackling situations

 

[PutuporShutup]

No because he wasn’t. I’d take Lewis over anyone who starts for Kansas and Rutgers etc

Both Rutgers corners significantly better than Lewis. I will say i haven’t watched Kansas corners so maybe you could be right there.

 

[NDMatt91]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Lewis only got as much playing time as he did because he apparently sucked the least out of all the corners on the roster, thanks to awful recruiting at the position.

 

[CanadalovesND]

You really think that? I got nothing more to say because I think people have blinders on, the film doesn’t lie….. I do hope I’m wrong and he plays solid this year.

If you said you can have any projected cb starter for the 65 Power 5 teams over Lewis is take it, most likely we get an improvement. I can’t imagine a school purposely starting someone worse than him.

On the flip side, I hope hart is healthy and has an even better year. He showed big potential, just needs to stay focused all game and all year. He had mental lapses in some tackling situations

Lewis was not good, but you think he’s the worst?

Let’s talk about G5 schools too. App State has better corners? Marshall? FAU? Troy? UTSA? UTEP?

Now, I do believe with the young corners we have on the roster, he will get pushed hard in camp and in practice. Maybe he doesn’t even end up starting. But he’s a true junior with over 1000 career snaps already. He could start for other teams with that resume.

He was thrown into fire, because as someone alluded to previously, we had nothing at the position when he came in as a freshman.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Lewis was not good, but you think he’s the worst?

Let’s talk about G5 schools too. App State has better corners? Marshall? FAU? Troy? UTSA? UTEP?

Now, I do believe with the young corners we have on the roster, he will get pushed hard in camp and in practice. Maybe he doesn’t even end up starting. But he’s a true junior with over 1000 career snaps already. He could start for other teams with that resume.

He was thrown into fire, because as someone alluded to previously, we had nothing at the position when he came in as a freshman.

Power 5 conf not all d 1…. Lewis is probably better than another corner somewhere out there in power 5 but he’s closer to the bottom than the middle of corners In power 5 for sure

As many have said and know, we were in such a bad spot at the corner position going into 2020 and 2021

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Power 5 conf not all d 1…. Lewis is probably better than another corner somewhere out there in power 5 but he’s closer to the bottom than the middle of corners In power 5 for sure

As many have said and know, we were in such a bad spot at the corner position going into 2020 and 2021

Just fucking stop…seriously

 

[Irish#1]

Is this Lewis or Joseph’s thread? Lol

 

[INLaw]

A lot of frustrations boiling out at every perceived weakness because of the impending Ohio State ass whooping. But what if. What if this time we win the damn thing . Got 44 days may as well be positive

 

[T-Boone]

Power 5 conf not all d 1…. Lewis is probably better than another corner somewhere out there in power 5 but he’s closer to the bottom than the middle of corners In power 5 for sure

As many have said and know, we were in such a bad spot at the corner position going into 2020 and 2021

You have really back off in cross examination

 

[T-Boone]

Here’s a fun one… in hindsight, where should Brandon Joseph have ranked in his recruiting class for safety? Should he have been a 5 star recruit and top 1-2 in his class? I am guessing yes, but haven’t done the work.

Is he really that good? Had the career of a 5 star? So we are expecting between Gilman and Hamilton standard (is Gilman our second best S over the past 5 years?)

 

[jprue24]

Is he really that good? Had the career of a 5 star? So we are expecting between Gilman and Hamilton standard (is Gilman our second best S over the past 5 years?)

He hasn't proven that he can help stop the run. Not saying he can't get there, just that he hasn't shown it yet.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Is he really that good? Had the career of a 5 star? So we are expecting between Gilman and Hamilton standard (is Gilman our second best S over the past 5 years?)

Gilman was a 3 star and Kyle was barely a 4 till the end of his recruiting. He was an "Earned 5 Star" as OFD likes to say.

This dude has proven himself in the pass game. We have plenty of ammo to stop the run... we need coverage. Anything Joseph brings us with the rush is found money.

 

[PutuporShutup]

You have really back off in cross examination

I have not backed off, I have just been fair in the sense I haven’t watched ever single power 5 corner. I can’t imagine anyone rolling out someone with his abilities and being happy with it

 

[PutuporShutup]

Just fucking stop…seriously

Why? People should be excited for 2022 but also tough to understand how you can’t be extremely concerned with our pass D with most likely the same players starting other than Joseph.

Is the issue me calling out reality or blinders on because time heals wounds?

 

[BabyIrish]

Why? People should be excited for 2022 but also tough to understand how you can’t be extremely concerned with our pass D with most likely the same players starting other than Joseph.

Is the issue me calling out reality or blinders on because time heals wounds?

Stop because you have no idea if he is in fact the worst cb in p5. We get it, he had a bad season and no one is disagreeing. Just stop with the over the top nonsense and get back to Joseph. That simple.

 

[irishandy]

With Brandon Joseph ND is getting another year with Kyle Hamilton; not named Kyle Hamilton. I think he will be that good.

Freeman made an excellent hire getting Al Golden as the DC and I think our defense will be fine.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Stop because you have no idea if he is in fact the worst cb in p5. We get it, he had a bad season and no one is disagreeing. Just stop with the over the top nonsense and get back to Joseph. That simple.

Nailed it

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

The odds that the worst starting CB in power 5 is a starter at ND is extremely low. It’s way more likely you are emotional.

Narcissistic

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Why? People should be excited for 2022 but also tough to understand how you can’t be extremely concerned with our pass D with most likely the same players starting other than Joseph.

Is the issue me calling out reality or blinders on because time heals wounds?

Perhaps. Perhaps not. We've heard a lot about Mickey pushing for major minutes as soon as he arrived.

Saying everyone other than Joseph is acting like he's a small percentage of the "Pass D". 25% if we're in a traditional package (not nickel, dime). And something else that really helps the pass D is a strong front 7. We expect a number of young players to make the leap, we expect Marist back.

Hart is getting a lot of evals for the draft. Tell us again why we should be "extremely concerned"?

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Perhaps. Perhaps not. We've heard a lot about Mickey pushing for major minutes as soon as he arrived.

Saying everyone other than Joseph is acting like he's a small percentage of the "Pass D". 25% if we're in a traditional package (not nickel, dime). And something else that really helps the pass D is a strong front 7. We expect a number of young players to make the leap, we expect Marist back.

Hart is getting a lot of evals for the draft. Tell us again why we should be "extremely concerned"?

Not to mention it is clearly the bowl game that has everybody alarmed, and we played that game without kyle. You also cant discount experience as a key part of development, and coming into this year our guys on the back end have a whole lot of it. I’m excited to see how it plays out and think Joseph with be an impact player and stabilize our back end like Kyle did.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Stop because you have no idea if he is in fact the worst cb in p5. We get it, he had a bad season and no one is disagreeing. Just stop with the over the top nonsense and get back to Joseph. That simple.

People saying he’s not the worst is similar to me saying he is… more video evidence he’s closer to my opinion


I do think Joseph will be good

 

[irishff1014]

With Brandon Joseph ND is getting another year with Kyle Hamilton; not named Kyle Hamilton. I think he will be that good.

Freeman made an excellent hire getting Al Golden as the DC and I think our defense will be fine.

That's a high standard to hold someone too. I think he will be very good as well but i am not sure he'll be that good. However i do think he'll be the brains of the backend of the defense.

 

[Armyirish47]

Why? People should be excited for 2022 but also tough to understand how you can’t be extremely concerned with our pass D with most likely the same players starting other than Joseph.

Is the issue me calling out reality or blinders on because time heals wounds?

EXTREME CONCERN. I'll take my what, top 15 defense from last year, without the side of Mountain Dew. Do the dew though bro!!!

 

[Poirette]

That's a high standard to hold someone too. I think he will be very good as well but i am not sure he'll be that good. However i do think he'll be the brains of the backend of the defense.

you are correct. But Joseph had one advantage. Hamilton came into a crowded safety position. He sort of had to bide his time.
But Joseph was "the man" right away. And you learn things, and leadership and communication more quickly when you are "the man."

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I like turtles.

 

[INLaw]

I like turtles.

But do you like sea turtles 🐢

 

[Poirette]

Nailed it

well, here is an objective (arguably) source. I post this to you because Mr. KNOW NOTHING is a hot mess.

Clarence Lewis Cornerback Notre Dame | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 75.0 Rank: #52 Forty: 4.45 Clarence Lewis from Mater Dei High School was rated a 3-star recruit by ESPN and handed a 3-star grade by 247 Sports. Following high school, Lewis opted t...

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