'19 OH OG Zeke Correll (Notre Dame Signee)

[arrowryan]

He’s absolutely fucking terrible

 

[IA4irish]

when we played Alabama in the playoffs I thought he did quite well. The lack of improvement in his game has been pretty shocking. He was a high-level recruit. I know he’s on the small side.

 

[IA4irish]

He’s absolutely fucking terrible

Tell us how you really feel. Don’t sugar coat it…

 

[IrishFanForever23]

hmmm. I'm looking back and I see that Aug 18th is the last post in this thread.


Whatever, man

Everybody's going tits up right now, so sure.

Bumb up Zack's blown play and have fun.

Mrs. Correll, is that you? This is who he’s been since he’s been ND’s starting center. He’s too small, doesn’t have a mean streak to him, and gets pushed back way too easily if he goes up against someone that is his size or bigger than him.

 

[PutuporShutup]

hmmm. I'm looking back and I see that Aug 18th is the last post in this thread.


Whatever, man

Everybody's going tits up right now, so sure.

Bumb up Zack's blown play and have fun.

Do you disagree or just don't want only positive things about all our players, despite having a bad season?

Zeke was getting blown up by CMU, NC State, OSU, Duke, louisville, clemson......... YAY

He's just not a capable center, way too small, slow, and weak. When a coaches only compliment of you as a football player is you are tough, that's not good.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Do you disagree or just don't want only positive things about all our players, despite having a bad season?

Zeke was getting blown up by CMU, NC State, OSU, Duke, louisville, clemson......... YAY

He's just not a capable center, way too small, slow, and weak. When a coaches only compliment of you as a football player is you are tough, that's not good.

Who are the options for center next year maybe we move someone there because Craig Didn't look good either.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Who are the options for center next year maybe we move someone there because Craig Didn't look good either.

Craig was our top rated olinemen grade wise by pff … I was there in person, didn’t notice him in a bad way, can’t stomach re watching last 1.5 quarters yet

Is there some clear plays where he struggled like zeke?

 

[Lberry]

Tell us how you really feel. Don’t sugar coat it…

There's been too much sugar coating around these parts

 

[BoredIrish]

Who are the options for center next year maybe we move someone there because Craig Didn't look good either.

If Schrauth wins a guard spot, Coogan could slide inside.

MF needs to hire a new S&C coach first. The interior of the line needs to get better.

 

[Irish#1]

I may be wrong, but I think IrishBoognish's intent was there are a lot of people on here just bitching and moaning about everyone and everything since the Clemson game. Correll has not been good all year. Where has the bitching and moaning been since the season started? "F" it, since he's his position coach, let's pile on Rudolph while were at it.

 

[ulukinatme]

If Schrauth wins a guard spot, Coogan could slide inside.

MF needs to hire a new S&C coach first. The interior of the line needs to get better.

Did we ever get confirmation why Balis left abruptly? He was clashing with Freeman too.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Who are the options for center next year maybe we move someone there because Craig Didn't look good either.

Wrong. He looked much better for the 20-30 snaps he was in there. As someone else mentioned, he graded out the highest, we never heard the announcers mention his name after he was put into the game, and all the beat writers talked about him looking good while he was in there.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I may be wrong, but I think IrishBoognish's intent was there are a lot of people on here just bitching and moaning about everyone and everything since the Clemson game. Correll has not been good all year. Where has the bitching and moaning been since the season started? "F" it, since he's his position coach, let's pile on Rudolph while were at it.

In game threads Correll has been blasted absolutely all season for multiple seasons, same with DJ Brown, and Marist at times as well (he's like jeckyll and hyde). It just got so bad vs clemson that for the first time someone pulled up zekes thread, probably since he went out and backups came in.

 

[IA4irish]

I may be wrong, but I think IrishBoognish's intent was there are a lot of people on here just bitching and moaning about everyone and everything since the Clemson game. Correll has not been good all year. Where has the bitching and moaning been since the season started? "F" it, since he's his position coach, let's pile on Rudolph while were at it.

I am totally fine piling on Rudolph. The o-line has been a total disappointment. Alt is an all-american left tackle - he is doing great. Everyone else has been average to down-right atrocious at times. I consider Correll and Fisher to have taken steps back. I think the line would be performing much better with Hiestand - and trust me, I am not the biggest Hiestand fan

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I am totally fine piling on Rudolph. The o-line has been a total disappointment. Alt is an all-american left tackle - he is doing great. Everyone else has been average to down-right atrocious at times. I consider Correll and Fisher to have taken steps back. I think the line would be performing much better with Hiestand - and trust me, I am not the biggest Hiestand fan

Clemson has an excellent defensive front seven so it's not exactly shocking that they won that matchup.

IMO, the bigger issue was a game plan that absolutely depended on winning that matchup.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Clemson has an excellent defensive front seven so it's not exactly shocking that they won that matchup.

IMO, the bigger issue was a game plan that absolutely depended on winning that matchup.

That's the problem with ND's offense right now - it is entirely dependent on ND winning every rep, everywhere. And that's just not realistic.

If the receivers can't beat the DBs facing them, the play is dead. If the OL doesn't block the play perfectly, the play is dead. If the QB needs to move to his second or third read, the play is dead.

This is high school garbage. I can't believe Parker is still part of the staff.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Clemson has an excellent defensive front seven so it's not exactly shocking that they won that matchup.

IMO, the bigger issue was a game plan that absolutely depended on winning that matchup.

On both sides. Goldens game plan or at minimum late adjustments wasn't very smart vs clemson either. Clemson was selling out to stop our run, rightfully so, and force obvious passing downs. Yeah we hit 3-4 really good runs, but more runs for nothing. We didn't sell out to stop clemsons run until really the end of 3rd/fourth quarter.

I just don't get why we didn't quickly change out plan to stop their run once they started having success, realizing we need to let Kade throwing the ball beat us. He only threw it well against our backups.

WE lost to clemson and they had what, right around 100 yards passing. You tell me that before the game, and I think we win by 14+. Clemsons last 6 drives when we truly committed more to stopping the run they had 25 total yards.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Clemson has an excellent defensive front seven so it's not exactly shocking that they won that matchup.

IMO, the bigger issue was a game plan that absolutely depended on winning that matchup.

Right on Pops.

I that if we won it would've been a 24-17 or 24-10 game. That's how the 48 minutes should have been executed.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

You'd have to be crazy not to put a nose on him every play.

I said the same out loud to nobody in particular (I was alone) when that play got blown up. Embarrassing

 

[IRISHDODGER]

On both sides. Goldens game plan or at minimum late adjustments wasn't very smart vs clemson either. Clemson was selling out to stop our run, rightfully so, and force obvious passing downs. Yeah we hit 3-4 really good runs, but more runs for nothing. We didn't sell out to stop clemsons run until really the end of 3rd/fourth quarter.

I just don't get why we didn't quickly change out plan to stop their run once they started having success, realizing we need to let Kade throwing the ball beat us. He only threw it well against our backups.

WE lost to clemson and they had what, right around 100 yards passing. You tell me that before the game, and I think we win by 14+. Clemsons last 6 drives when we truly committed more to stopping the run they had 25 total yards.

This^ Meanwhile the ND beat writers are lauding the defense for “shutting Clemson down” in the 2H. First off, they shouldn’t be getting gashed by a shitty anemic offense in the first place. Yet the usual suspects plus some other veterans who are usually solid all decided to shit the bed.

And then you “rest” the essential part of the secondary and replace them w/ inexperienced back ups for an entire possession? Was MF/AG surprised when Clemson completed an easy TD drive w/ their underperforming 5* QB exposing the backups? Surely, the coaches aren’t so naive as to think “well Mickey had a pick 6 & Gray had a circus catch for a pick last week so they should be fine”. Pitt is the shittiest offense in the nation and lest we forget…Mickey got picked on by that shitty Pitt QB early and often before finally getting the pick six.

 

[stpeteirish]

This^ Meanwhile the ND beat writers are lauding the defense for “shutting Clemson down” in the 2H. First off, they shouldn’t be getting gashed by a shitty anemic offense in the first place. Yet the usual suspects plus some other veterans who are usually solid all decided to shit the bed.

And then you “rest” the essential part of the secondary and replace them w/ inexperienced back ups for an entire possession? Was MF/AG surprised when Clemson completed an easy TD drive w/ their underperforming 5* QB exposing the backups? Surely, the coaches aren’t so naive as to think “well Mickey had a pick 6 & Gray had a circus catch for a pick last week so they should be fine”. Pitt is the shittiest offense in the nation and lest we forget…Mickey got picked on by that shitty Pitt QB early and often before finally getting the pick six.

That possession with the backups in was bizarre. Watching it I was afraid they were all hurt. Then they all came back in. WTF. ABC, of course, was clueless. Has Freeman offered an explanation anywhere about this?

 

[PutuporShutup]

This^ Meanwhile the ND beat writers are lauding the defense for “shutting Clemson down” in the 2H. First off, they shouldn’t be getting gashed by a shitty anemic offense in the first place. Yet the usual suspects plus some other veterans who are usually solid all decided to shit the bed.

And then you “rest” the essential part of the secondary and replace them w/ inexperienced back ups for an entire possession? Was MF/AG surprised when Clemson completed an easy TD drive w/ their underperforming 5* QB exposing the backups? Surely, the coaches aren’t so naive as to think “well Mickey had a pick 6 & Gray had a circus catch for a pick last week so they should be fine”. Pitt is the shittiest offense in the nation and lest we forget…Mickey got picked on by that shitty Pitt QB early and often before finally getting the pick six.

Agree 100%

Mickey and Gray had great picks vs pitt but they both had missed assignments, and got picked on by pitt as well. They both have given up receptions all year. You frichan don't put them all in at the same time, on the road at clemson, down 10-6, second quarter when your starting D had only bee on the field for a few minutes. We stop them from scoring their with our starters, completely different ball game.

 

[Luckylucci]

That possession with the backups in was bizarre. Watching it I was afraid they were all hurt. Then they all came back in. WTF. ABC, of course, was clueless. Has Freeman offered an explanation anywhere about this?

As I expected, he said it was planned rest.

I think Freeman struggles mightily with in-game adjustments as HC.

At that point, that's a really good time for the HC to be like, you know what. We've started flat, on the road, maybe now is not the time to sub out the entire secondary. They do it anyways. We get shredded.

 

[rtrn2glory]

yea scheduled rest shouldn't be an entire series. In high school we "schedule" rest, but also keep eyes on the situation. for defense it's scheduling a break at the beginning of a series, but if they cross midfield, dudes are on the field.

 

[BoredIrish]

yea scheduled rest shouldn't be an entire series. In high school we "schedule" rest, but also keep eyes on the situation. for defense it's scheduling a break at the beginning of a series, but if they cross midfield, dudes are on the field.

Not just that, but couldnt Hart and Morrison have rested on separate drives? Why rest both your starters at the same time?

 

[PutuporShutup]

As I expected, he said it was planned rest.

I think Freeman struggles mightily with in-game adjustments as HC.

At that point, that's a really good time for the HC to be like, you know what. We've started flat, on the road, maybe now is not the time to sub out the entire secondary. They do it anyways. We get shredded.

Clemson had 6 first down plays on that drive, threw it on 5 of the 6 first down plays. Are you kidding me golden/Freeman. Clemson OC Riley "Mickey/Gray in, execute pass offense plays."

After their 4th, frichan 4th first down that drive, taking it to the ND 37, you absolutely have to put your starters in. I mean WTF. Clemson had 2 first downs their prior 4 drives combined vs our starters, that's even with DJ brown blowing his blitz assignment.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Clemson has an excellent defensive front seven so it's not exactly shocking that they won that matchup.

IMO, the bigger issue was a game plan that absolutely depended on winning that matchup.

What DC isn’t going to put someone head-to-head on Correll now? The kid has heart & desire & gives 100% but he just can’t win those battles vs defenders head up on him b/c he’s smaller than all of them. Does 3rd string true freshman Ashton Craig get 1st team reps during the bye & leading up to WF?

 

[DillonHall]

What DC isn’t going to put someone head-to-head on Correll now? The kid has heart & desire & gives 100% but he just can’t win those battles vs defenders head up on him b/c he’s smaller than all of them. Does 3rd string true freshman Ashton Craig get 1st team reps during the bye & leading up to WF?

Craig should definitely start over Correll

 

[Crazy Balki]

What DC isn’t going to put someone head-to-head on Correll now? The kid has heart & desire & gives 100% but he just can’t win those battles vs defenders head up on him b/c he’s smaller than all of them. Does 3rd string true freshman Ashton Craig get 1st team reps during the bye & leading up to WF?

I don't think you can start Correll anymore. He simply hasn't been effective at all for weeks, and Clemson was an all-time low for him.

It's funny how Correll is listed at 6'3 306, while Craig is 6'4 307, despite it being PAINFULLY obvious that Craig is a lot bigger than Correll. I'd be shocked if Correll was much bigger than 6'2 295.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I don't think you can start Correll anymore. He simply hasn't been effective at all for weeks, and Clemson was an all-time low for him.

It's funny how Correll is listed at 6'3 306, while Craig is 6'4 307, despite it being PAINFULLY obvious that Craig is a lot bigger than Correll. I'd be shocked if Correll was much bigger than 6'2 295.

I think starting zeke this year was really lazy by the staff. It was the easy choice with his experience but if you watched his film last few years he’s just not physically capable of holding up. Feels like dj brown starting too. Neither of them have ever showed much potential, they e played poorly but are experienced within the system.

If we had Harper at other safety spot and gray or Mickey at slot I think we’re a one loss team right now and we’re pissed off our offense isn’t holding up their end or we’d be 10-0