'12 CA OT Max Tuerk (USC Verbal)

[BeauBenken]

I don't know if anyone really knows. Someone said 9 other places say 15. I think we need to enlist a statistician to assist us.

My guess is that it would be 15 before 5th years. It was supposedly a USC fan that said 9 which would make me think they plan on giving 6 guys a 5th year.

Of course that may all be wrong and I'm just blabbering through my hat!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Just out of curiosity, since the condoms signed 45 kids this last cycle, just how many schollies do they have available for this class?

Without sanctions, they could sign a max of 25 kids per year. The sanctions reduced that number by 10 per year for three years, so over a three year period, they'll be limited to a total of 45 recruits.

ESPN lists USC's 2011 class at 31 signees, while Rivals and Scout list 30.

So they've signed 30-31 of a possible 45 over the 3 year period; in other words, they have 14-15 scholarships left for the next two years. How that breaks down is anyone's guess: 7 this year and 7-8 the next?

Or maybe the NCAA just pushes the scholarship portion of the sanctions out a year, essentially giving USC a pass for 2011.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

My guess is that it would be 15 before 5th years. It was supposedly a USC fan that said 9 which would make me think they plan on giving 6 guys a 5th year.

Of course that may all be wrong and I'm just blabbering through my hat!

I could be wrong, but I think 5th years only count toward the 85 player max for the team, not toward the 25 recruits per year limit. As I understand it, the sanctions didn't touch the 85 player max for the roster, but they did decrease the 25 recruits per year limit by 10 over a three year period.

 

[BeauBenken]

I could be wrong, but I think 5th years only count toward the 85 player max for the team, not toward the 25 recruits per year limit. As I understand it, the sanctions didn't touch the 85 player max for the roster, but they did decrease the 25 recruits per year limit by 10 over a three year period.

Ah, dang, I think you'd be right. See! There I was, blabberin' through me hat!

 

[OCIrish]

I know they oversigned this last year but that is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. I can't believe that they'd be as stupid to just leave themselves with a total of 15 schollies for the next few years.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I know they oversigned this last year but that is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. I can't believe that they'd be as stupid to just leave themselves with a total of 15 schollies for the next few years.

They gambled by oversigning the 2011 class, and they lost. If the NCAA really wants to show some spine, they oughta tell USC that the 30-31 recruits signed in 2011 count against the 45 recruit three-year limit. Good luck working with 14-15 scholarships over the next two years.

My fear is that the NCAA will cave and just push out the scholarship sanction by a year, effectively rewarding USC for its brazen disregard for the sanctions during its appeals process.

 

[simets99]

I could be wrong, but I think 5th years only count toward the 85 player max for the team, not toward the 25 recruits per year limit. As I understand it, the sanctions didn't touch the 85 player max for the roster, but they did decrease the 25 recruits per year limit by 10 over a three year period.

It decreased the 85 player max down to 75.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

It decreased the 85 player max down to 75.

You're right. Thanks for the correction.

One of ESPN's USC bloggers explains the sanctions in light of the failed appeal here.

The Trojans already have eight players committed to join next year's class, per various reports, with one -- top local lineman Max Tuerk -- giving his verbal commitment on Wednesday morning, in fact. That leaves only seven open spots for the maximum 15-player class, per NCAA-mandated restrictions that will now come into play next season and stay active until 2015.

Also beginning next season is a 75-man overall scholarship limit for the roster, which will make for even more squeezing. As of this writing, to our best guess, USC plans to have 82 players on scholarship next season, with 58 spring-roster players, 21 newcomers and one returner (receiver Brice Butler).

Only 13 of those players will exhaust their eligibility in 2011, giving USC 69 scholarship players for the 2012 season plus a new class of newcomers -- and they must somehow fit that into the 75-man limit.

 

[BeauBenken]

The Trojans already have eight players committed to join next year's class, per various reports, with one -- top local lineman Max Tuerk -- giving his verbal commitment on Wednesday morning, in fact. That leaves only seven open spots for the maximum 15-player class, per NCAA-mandated restrictions that will now come into play next season and stay active until 2015.

Also beginning next season is a 75-man overall scholarship limit for the roster, which will make for even more squeezing. As of this writing, to our best guess, USC plans to have 82 players on scholarship next season, with 58 spring-roster players, 21 newcomers and one returner (receiver Brice Butler).

Only 13 of those players will exhaust their eligibility in 2011, giving USC 69 scholarship players for the 2012 season plus a new class of newcomers -- and they must somehow fit that into the 75-man limit.

That sounds fantastic.

 

[PigtownIrish]

Look for them to push out scholarship players deemed unworthy. And hope that someone in the media is there to cover the extra dose of sleaze.

 

[jason_h537]

Wonder what Tuerk might be thinking?

 

[beryirish]

Wonder what Tuerk might be thinking?

You would have thought he'd wait and see but he must be a die hard fan so no matter what happens he is just happy to be wearing the uniform. Hopefully no other elite athletes feel the same way and instead look elsewhere now.

 

[rtrn2glory]

You would have thought he'd wait and see but he must be a die hard fan so no matter what happens he is just happy to be wearing the uniform. Hopefully no other elite athletes feel the same way and instead look elsewhere now.

Same thing is happening in Ohio with Ohio St.

 

[Ironman8]

Word is he may be starting this week at LT for the Trojans. If so, he would become their first true freshman starting there in school history. Their O-line woes could be real helpful come last November.

 

[Irishnuke]

Definitely a good thing for us.

 

[Buster Bluth]

That's crazy that he'd be the first freshman LT in school history.

 

[Teomonsternd]

I think it's bad for us because their current LT #70 is a turnstyle and looks as if he is trying to get Matt Barkley killed. Honestly, I watched some replays from the Stanford game where I have no idea what must have gone on during film study that allowed him to ever play again. I figure the most likely explanation is that he explained to Kiffin that he was on the take from Vegas odds makers and made a couple hundred thousand to drop the game.

 

[irishfanjho15]

I think it's bad for us because their current LT #70 is a turnstyle and looks as if he is trying to get Matt Barkley killed. Honestly, I watched some replays from the Stanford game where I have no idea what must have gone on during film study that allowed him to ever play again. I figure the most likely explanation is that he explained to Kiffin that he was on the take from Vegas odds makers and made a couple hundred thousand to drop the game.

I'll take our Dline against a true frosh LT all day long.

 

[Rizzophil]

I think the regular left tackle will only miss a week but we'll see.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Guys, as a freshman at USC, he's LOST over 15 pounds!!! He's down to like 270-275, and was so slender at the game 2 weeks ago that USC fans were up in arms over how he looked. And he lined up at TIGHT END that game! He was only a blocker, but still...imagine our starting LT lining up as a TE because he wasn't good enough to start for the LT who is constantly getting abused??

On Rivals paysite for USC, after they watched our feast of a training table during the Trick Shot Monday feature on Gameday, UC fans were LIVID with USC's lack of suitable food. Guys have been losing weight for several years now, kinda like our guys during the Weis days. There was a lonnnnnngggg thread with them b!tching about it.

Anywho, Turk might be good in the future, but with Oregon and ND coming up in the near future, USC could be in some real trouble...

 

[Irishman77]

Tiiiiiimmmmmmbbbbbbbbuuuuuurrrrrrrr!!!

 

[Irishize]

Passes away at age 26.

RIP